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This is more a carry on from http://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/出会いカフェ-キラリ-date-cafe-kirari-shibuya-ikebukuro.6985/page-4
I'm not sure where the conversation carried on if it did at all and apologies if I'm posting in the wrong area.

Yesterday was my first experience, the post above got me very interested and let me add my Japanese is very poor. I checked out the 3 in Shibuya yesterday at about 10:30pm. Went to the Gyaku first, waited about 5minutes with a few other ojisans and I first met Mami there. She is extremely quite, almost whispers but in terms of looks I'd rate her a 7/10. I went with AKB69's method of asking "jikan dono gurai arimasuka?" and got the expected 1 hour response. After that I just said no thanks and went back to waiting, but after 10 minutes of no one else I decided to move on. I went to the closer one next on the bigger street, 2 girls that were both 6/10 and about 5 ojisans, after a few minutes I moved on. At the last one, this was a little past 11pm when I got to the door, the guy said there were no girls.

So I went back today in reverse order starting with the one near mark city at about 5pm. 3 girls, 2 were 6/10s but in the corner I saw maybe a 7.5/10 but as it was my first stop wasn't ready to commit yet. After 15 minutes of chilling on the computer I moved onto the one on the bigger street. Just one 6/10 girl so I moved on after a few minutes. Went to the Gyaku next and before I could sit down I got called by Mami, the same girl from yesterday. I don't think she remembered me at first but after I asked if she does, she seemed to recall. I asked her the same question of how much time do you have, this time she responded 3 hours. I asked how much and she said 5000 and I agreed.

She asked what I want to do and I just said play, I was more interested in the companionship than the sex. So she suggested we drink tea, while drinking she asked if I want to have sex, I asked how much and she said normally 20,000 but she will do 10,000 after the 3 hours but I said I would pass(Was not really prepared to spend the 10,000 + hotel room as she didn't want to go back to my place). We mucked around for a while, had dinner which took us to about 2.5 hours and we parted ways.

She added me on LINE while drinking tea, throughout the encounter she kept sending me random cutsy emoticons and continued to do so after we parted ways, not sure what thats supposed to mean. But overall the encounter was okay, I'm not sure how the 'dates' are normally supposed to go but she didn't show any affection like hand/arm holding. Skeptical about recommendation, maybe I'm expecting too much but I was hoping more for a girlfriend experience, which it wasn't.
Including the cafe fee and the 5000 yen to her, I spent about 15,000 yen.
 
The girls are not employees, it would be up to them. My guess would be most will say no.
If you look at the self intro card with their photo, a lot of them are covering their face even though only people inside the cafe can see.
The girls probably don't want people they know finding out that they've been there.
 
You could always have her take you to a purikura booth. Every game arcade has one.

If you're talking about mid-coitus photos, that's not going to happen in a game center. :snaphappy::whistle:
 
Yeah I know what you mean, I think most of them will say no

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Just went there yesterday for the first time.
My japanese level is bloody beginner. Barely jlp5 level.

I know the deal from here so I just acted confident as if i understood everything the guy at the door told or asked me.

When you hear the word denwa. Pull out the phone for the number etc.
There also was a japanese guy who could speak some english, so he translated it all again for me.

I went to two kiraris. The girls were Quite okay, cute.
But non of Them speak english, so you better get your japanese level up if you want a "normal date".

I asked them what they do ( bowling, tea, alcohol, Hotel, darts etc.)
In the first one there was a girl which wanted 15000 for the Hotel but it wasnt the money worth as i had in my backhead to Attack the af1 actress shop later on.

So i went to the next kirari, the one where momo Café is located in the same building.

In the first Café it was usually me who finished the dates but there many girls finished early, mostly because of the language barrier.

I almost talked to everygirl as i Dont Luke to just sit around, so its better to kill time like that.

Then a New one came in and we talked a bit. She said that she doesnt do anything except for the Hotel, i liked her directness.
She looked cute and was 25 Years old.
She wanted 15000¥, I asked if the Hotel was included, she of course said no so we typed on my phone and arranged on 10000¥ in the end, without an outspoken timelimit.

Hotel was 4900 for 3 hours, so we had plenty of time.

The chemistry seemed very good so i did not felt that it was necessarry to ask for the time with her.

We talked about everything and took a shower after that sexing two times. Probably some more would have been possible as she was just waiting to go clubbing but i wanted to take the last yamanote line.

Very nice, exchanged line id's and will probably See her again or take her to a happening bar.

For a alternative from the escort agencies defenitly a try. But i guess its a gamble.

Damn in the end i am just looking for the spot where we guys can sit in front of the mirror. I could probably just take gaijin girls, but hey!
 
Where in Tokyo was this?
 
This is more a carry on from http://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/出会いカフェ-キラリ-date-cafe-kirari-shibuya-ikebukuro.6985/page-4
I'm not sure where the conversation carried on if it did at all and apologies if I'm posting in the wrong area.

Yesterday was my first experience, the post above got me very interested and let me add my Japanese is very poor. I checked out the 3 in Shibuya yesterday at about 10:30pm. Went to the Gyaku first, waited about 5minutes with a few other ojisans and I first met Mami there. She is extremely quite, almost whispers but in terms of looks I'd rate her a 7/10. I went with AKB69's method of asking "jikan dono gurai arimasuka?" and got the expected 1 hour response. After that I just said no thanks and went back to waiting, but after 10 minutes of no one else I decided to move on. I went to the closer one next on the bigger street, 2 girls that were both 6/10 and about 5 ojisans, after a few minutes I moved on. At the last one, this was a little past 11pm when I got to the door, the guy said there were no girls.

So I went back today in reverse order starting with the one near mark city at about 5pm. 3 girls, 2 were 6/10s but in the corner I saw maybe a 7.5/10 but as it was my first stop wasn't ready to commit yet. After 15 minutes of chilling on the computer I moved onto the one on the bigger street. Just one 6/10 girl so I moved on after a few minutes. Went to the Gyaku next and before I could sit down I got called by Mami, the same girl from yesterday. I don't think she remembered me at first but after I asked if she does, she seemed to recall. I asked her the same question of how much time do you have, this time she responded 3 hours. I asked how much and she said 5000 and I agreed.

She asked what I want to do and I just said play, I was more interested in the companionship than the sex. So she suggested we drink tea, while drinking she asked if I want to have sex, I asked how much and she said normally 20,000 but she will do 10,000 after the 3 hours but I said I would pass(Was not really prepared to spend the 10,000 + hotel room as she didn't want to go back to my place). We mucked around for a while, had dinner which took us to about 2.5 hours and we parted ways.

She added me on LINE while drinking tea, throughout the encounter she kept sending me random cutsy emoticons and continued to do so after we parted ways, not sure what thats supposed to mean. But overall the encounter was okay, I'm not sure how the 'dates' are normally supposed to go but she didn't show any affection like hand/arm holding. Skeptical about recommendation, maybe I'm expecting too much but I was hoping more for a girlfriend experience, which it wasn't.
Including the cafe fee and the 5000 yen to her, I spent about 15,000 yen.
Date Cafes give a strong GFE, put not in the way many punters usually think of. What will happen is very unpredictable. Many of the women are amateurs (as in this isn't their main source of income or job), and their is a higher level of compatibility needed and chemistry involved. It's very in between P4P and PUA. In fact, for punters that don't understand PUA, I highly recommend trying date cafes. In fact, I will likely make a thread about such.

As for the affection part, once you understand that a lot of Date Cafe women aren't pros (though there are some in the cafes too), you will realize things aren't automatic. The woman, herself, may not know what she should do. You, the guy, have to make some effort to guide them or explain what you want, and their needs to be some level of chemistry between you. In addition, various Date Cafe women are fine with dinner-only or karoke-only. So if you take the hotel off the negotiating table, then she may think you simply want hostess-like company and doesn't have do anything else except wait for the time to expire.
 
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15000 for 3 hours plus 4500 for hotel is pretty cheap compared to the average p4ping. I should try this place since my Japaneae is good enough.