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I think I have seen a post about a type of review form being in the works but I just wanted to post this here as well.

When people review various services on this site, some people review excellently while others are lacking.

I personally think that it would be better if we have a form that would make reviews at least more uniformed if not better.

This is only a suggestion as I don't how much work this takes and how to implement it in a web forum like this.
 
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This idea is based on another mongering site I visit, but on the form have section for just members.

For example if the lady offers full service.

This information could possibly get them in trouble if just anyone on the internet can see, so make it visible to just members.
 
FYI- we have a template posted in the Escort and Pink Salon/Massage fora.

We don't yet have a website form to fill out yet, nor a public and private section, but what we have is a start that should get hobbyists some quality information moving forward.
 
I would suggest/urge that use of the template NOT be a requirement for posting a review on TAG. Imo and fwiiw, although such review templates may make for more efficient and complete transmission of relevant information in the review, they also have the undesirable side-effect of greatly reducing the fun/entertainment of both reading and writing reviews…resulting in, among other things, fewer reviews being posted if use of a template is an explicit or implied requirement.

Since I don't post reviews much on TAG (or anywhere else these days), my views on the matter should be given little weight, but I suspect that they might be shared by others here (and are most certainly shared by others elsewhere).

And yes, I am still going to post a review of Kitty sometime soon. I'll still do it if I'm required to use the template, but it won't be as interesting to read (or write).

-Ww
 
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If we will have to adhere to a format, you will see many stop posting reviews. The more you regulate this, the fewer reviews you will have. I don`t need to know that the guy did DATY and every detail down to what colour her toenails were. But some like that I know.
But I think the beauty of this site is the freedom we have here and the free exchange of information. I guess what I am saying is similar to Wwanderer, that everyone has a different style of what they want to say, so let them say it. Don`t regulate it.

Some never post reviews as it is. I wish these people would.
 
I just want to add a few notes here:

- We appreciate those people that take the time write a well thought out review. Thank you.
- We do not appreciate the one or two liners: 'She was great... ' 'Will repeat....'

The review format is not meant to discourage or prevent people from posting a review however, we really want to start focusing on quality over quantity. Meiji has kindly donated his time and personal experience to help setup something that feels reasonable enough. We were thinking about just a standard form template for posting reviews, you just input your details and a pre-formatted thread is posted with your review. That is still under consideration, but we are glad accepting comments and feedback as always.

We will always accept and consider all feedback that is presented to us.
 
Just a few additional bits from me...

they also have the undesirable side-effect of greatly reducing the fun/entertainment of both reading and writing reviews

I'm not really sure why this would be the case. We aren't in any way restricting what you write or how you write it. Whatever you've written in the past can go in the 'Details' section. We're just asking you to list a few additional things above that so that readers can quickly identify whether it's a provider that meets their geographical and financial requirements, and also might tickle their fancy.

I don`t need to know that the guy did DATY and every detail down to what colour her toenails were. But some like that I know. But I think the beauty of this site is the freedom we have here and the free exchange of information.

As I pointed out in the 'Submitting Reviews' post, you can put as much detail as you want in there. We don't require explicit details -- and has been pointed out above and elsewhere, such things are probably not a great idea to post openly.

We currently aren't requiring anything. The template I've written up is a guideline that I think is a happy medium between no format at all and, as some other very successful review sites have, a series of checkboxes that provide very fine detail on the appearance and their 'menu'. We aren't going to grade you on if it's an acceptable review or not, and we aren't going to delete reviews that don't include the template.

Really what we are seeking here with a template and additional organization of reviews is clarity.

The template puts the following information front and center-

- Who the girl is and the agency (if any) she works for, and how to get a hold of her.
- What the language requirements are for her and her agency
- What the cost was for the session
- What she looks like.

I've written dozens of reviews boards including this one, and I personally don't think spending the extra 5 minutes to list out this information is a big deal. Yes, writing reviews is a lot of fun, and at least for me, it comes from getting to recount in my mind all the fun I just had, but I would argue of equal importance is reviews are there to inform other hobbyists. This is the Tokyo Adult Guide, after all.

The problem is, without a format to follow, people will post totally unhelpful reviews as TAG Manager pointed out, or someone will post a fantastic review but will leave out a fairly salient detail, like whether Japanese is required, or how to get in contact with her. And then the thread devolves into a high noise-to-signal ratio discussion of the points that were missed, instead of getting comments on the actual experience.

I think that we as a community can grow quite a bit more, and get a lot more reviews, by having a little more organizational clarity. I for one find it really really difficult to wade through a review thread that consists of 6 different women from 2 or more different organizations, like some of the pink salon threads have become. I find it tough to have people continually add on to old reviews or post new questions like 'how can I see a provider if I don't speak Japanese'? In all of these cases, a slightly better ordered review forum will make the barrier to entry a lot lower for new people. They can look at a review and say okay, I can call this one but not that one. The whole point of a 'free exchange of information' is that you are actually exchanging information. And it's really tough for people to do that if that information isn't ordered in some way that makes it easy to process.

Thanks a lot for your feedback -- I did my best to streamline the template as much as I could to minimize the 'non-fun' part of the process. If you have any other feedback or questions, I'd love to talk further about this.
 
We currently aren't requiring anything. The template I've written up is a guideline that I think is a happy medium between no format at all and, as some other very successful review sites have, a series of checkboxes that provide very fine detail on the appearance and their 'menu'. We aren't going to grade you on if it's an acceptable review or not, and we aren't going to delete reviews that don't include the template.

Aside perhaps from the word "currently", I'm totally happy with the above and appreciate you making it clear(er). Having a suggested template is not a bad thing, imo...as long as it stays "suggested".

The pros and cons of having a template are, imo, a matter of taste and judgement. I have been on and am on numerous monger boards, including the earliest ones on the net, and it is one of those things on which people differ in their preferences...both in terms of writing and reading them, as far as I can tell.

It is true that it is not much trouble for the writer to add the sort of details you mention, but it is also not much trouble for a potential customer to discover them for himself as part of doing his homework.

In any case, thank you for your attention and openness to my input on this. That said, you probably don't need to pay much attention to my particular case since I stopped writing reviews on any regular basis around a decade ago. I once wrote many but for a couple of reasons have gradually lost the habit. So, whatever I contribute to TAG in the future (something I hope!), it probably won't be much in the way of reviews.

-Ww
 
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Aside perhaps from the word "currently", I'm totally happy with the above and appreciate you making it clear(er). Having a suggested template is not a bad thing, imo...as long as it stays "suggested".

To be clear, I added the 'currently' there to cover all eventual bases, not to foreshadow a specific, already-decided upon policy coming down the road.

It is true that it is not much trouble for the writer to add the sort of details you mention, but it is also not much trouble for a potential customer to discover them for himself as part of doing his homework.

I would agree with you in general, if it was the US and there were a bunch of review options available, or if it is a provider/agency that already is well-reviewed. But in a lot of cases, the information isn't easily available, or people assume that everyone else knows it. The problem comes if there's a bunch of reviews of Sayuri or Kitty, and everyone leaves off all that information, expecting everyone else to know where to find it. Or a lot of newbies will come in and have no idea what AM stands for.

For providers/agencies that are already well known, I have absolutely no problem if a reviewer just wants to tag the 'contact info' and 'rates' fields in the template with the URL of the Verified Tokyo Escort Agency List page, as long as they actually tag that page and not just put in 'the usual' or 'as documented' or whatever.
 
To be clear, I added the 'currently' there to cover all eventual bases, not to foreshadow a specific, already-decided upon policy coming down the road.



I would agree with you in general, if it was the US and there were a bunch of review options available, or if it is a provider/agency that already is well-reviewed. But in a lot of cases, the information isn't easily available, or people assume that everyone else knows it. The problem comes if there's a bunch of reviews of Sayuri or Kitty, and everyone leaves off all that information, expecting everyone else to know where to find it. Or a lot of newbies will come in and have no idea what AM stands for.

For providers/agencies that are already well known, I have absolutely no problem if a reviewer just wants to tag the 'contact info' and 'rates' fields in the template with the URL of the Verified Tokyo Escort Agency List page, as long as they actually tag that page and not just put in 'the usual' or 'as documented' or whatever.


You got me there @meiji I am a newbie and I have no idea what AM is stands for in this instance. Urban dictionary is a big help. However, as you can se below, there is a bit of a confusion here:

AM
Ass man. Person that loves ass.
Not morning
Person with alot of ass pictures on the phone or computer.
Sentence : Damn hes an AM.
by telephonic April 26, 2011

am
A word used for "pussy" in Turkish
I love pussy to be shaved.
by grozni March 06, 2005
:confused:

But I would love to place reviews with the new template, and I can promise I will, once I am there and have anything to review!

Ta,
Huncock
 
AM in this case means Asian Mystique, which is one of the more well known foreigner-friendly agencies in Japan.

Thanks meiji,

I think - thanks to all of yours help here at TAG - I will have a pretty good picture of the Adult Scene in Tokyo by the time I get there in two months time.

So far my impression is, that I will see very little from the scenery and will spend my time shagging the hottest chicks and writing reviews about them :D

Thanks again
 
Someone sent me a message asking me if it might make more sense to have Thread subjects be in an 'Agency-Girl Name' format, which might make more sense, so I updated the Review Form posts to this effect. Thanks everyone for your feedback!
 
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