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i went to this place during the middle of the week, not late at night, and no one spoke english but with my little travel book of japanese phrases and lots of hand waving i figured out that rei, ayu, and hana (or any lady who spoke english) were not available,

so i paid 10000 jpy for 50 min and then i got a shower and led into a small area surrounded by walls that did not reach ceiling and then the nice lady gave and nice massage and used protection for all the extra fun stuff, then another shower and then out the door,

the lady was medium pretty, great for price
 
Just checking in....As of Oct 26, Himawari is still good to go- 10,000 yen gets you 50 minute shower/massage/FS (and actually a better than expected massage). Yuka was the provider- Mid 30s, short, approx 87-60-84 naturals, unshaven, but trimmed. NO dfk, and in fact no kiss at all. No bbj, no cbj- no 69- straight from massage, to warm-up to covered mounting. Kinda hard to enjoy FS when you can CLEARLY hear other customers talking in the lobby, literally 2 meters away on the other side of the curtain partition. She was nice though- bubbly, chatty, flirty, but definitely not GFE- FS is treated as just another massage technique.
 
NewGuy here. Sounds interesting. What's the ratio of massage to sex for the guys that have been? 10 minutes / 35 minutes? Also, how was the actually massage? I have a sore back right now, lol. I could probably do with the massage more than the sex.
 
Well, based on psd's report and my personal experience, FS might be something you have to ask for while in the shower, especially if you speak some Japanese. I think the girls do have the plan their time accordingly (long massage + happy ending vs short massage + FS), so making sure they know up front would be the way to go.

But yeah, the lack of a guarantee (as much as that sort of thing is guaranteed in Japan) has certainly kept me away since my last experience there.

Ok, as no one has asked, I need a language lesson :) I'm new to this John thing and have no idea how to ask for full service from a massage provider. Regular girls never really need asking. So, what do you say? Romanji if possible as my Japanese is shocking.
 
Ok, as no one has asked, I need a language lesson :) I'm new to this John thing and have no idea how to ask for full service from a massage provider. Regular girls never really need asking. So, what do you say? Romanji if possible as my Japanese is shocking.

A caveat or two:

1) I'm not actually sure that you have to ask at Himawari. I still don't know exactly what happened, other than a miscommunication, specifically she probably assumed that I understood more Japanese than I really do. Not that I've been to a ton of massage parlors, and this was the first one I'd been to in Japan, but my disappointing experience at Himawari was the first time in my hobbying career that I've gone into a place where I thought FS was on the menu and didn't get it through no fault of my own.

As I think I said in a previous post, most massage parlors and other 'service providers' I've gone to, you purposely don't have to ask for the 'extras'- you make your interest known by maybe touching the girl's thigh or something, and the fun just magically begins. Once the fun begins, then it's perfectly fine to ask nicely for something specific, ie "Is doggie style okay?", etc.

It should go without saying, but I'll repeat it anyway in my usual long-winded way, that asking a woman for sexual services is a pretty sensitive topic for everyone involved, and should only be done out of view/earshot of her coworkers, boss, other customers, etc. If she refuses, or you don't understand her and the services you want don't happen, don't keep asking for them, don't force it, and don't throw a fit in front of her boss, coworkers, other customers, etc. If they piss you off, write a scathing review and never visit them again. My not getting FS at Himawari has certainly kept me from going back again.

2) In term of a 'language lesson', I've found out the hard way in my relatively short time in Japan that knowing a script of what to say or what question to ask is often totally worthless if you can't understand their response. Because very often the answer to a yes or no question isn't yes or no. :) If you are reading the below and don't know how to pronounce a particular Romaji word, I'd suggest reading a book on Japanese or taking a class. You'll get much more out of Japan understanding Hiragana/Katakana anyway.

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All that being said, asking permission (not just during sexy time) is really easy in Japanese. It's just:

<something> mou ii (desu ka)

<何> もういい(ですか)

where

a) <something> is replaced by a noun, prepositional phrase, or verb phrase.

and

b) 'desu ka' is optional depending on the situation. If you leave it off, make sure to say the 'moh ii' with a question tone, otherwise you aren't saying "will you give me a blow job", you are just stating for a fact that "blow jobs are also good". :)

If you are talking to a taxi driver or some other 'official transaction', add 'desu ka'. If you are naked in bed with a girl, you can probably leave it off as I've done in the examples below.

Examples:
- fera mou ii = will you give me a blow job? ("fera" being JP for fellatio)

- namete mou ii (while kissing her stomach and thighs) = can I eat your pussy now? ("namete" being the conjugated verb for 舐める nameru "to lick")

- bakku de mou ii = can we do it doggie style?

This is pretty simplified, and there's probably better ways of saying it in some cases, but I've found 'moh ii' to be very handy while in Japan.
 
Some details- I didn't have to ask for FS at Himawari- as soon as I saw her, she gave me a hug, and said "A suave guy! Lucky! (In heavily Korean accented Japanese) and immediately grabbed my crotch and giggled. Then she said 'ooh- you brought me a present!'

During the shower, she continued the flirty talk, and although the shower wasn't so sexy (she's clothed, and we actually chatted a lot about Korea, Japanese and English study), she would occasionally flick at Peter and say 'you're gonna have fun- you're going places!

Before beginning the massage, she told me to lie face down, and then whispers in my ear 'after I get done with the massage, you're gonna take care of me, aren't you?'

I guess the massage lasted 15 minutes or so- and actually felt great. She actually kinda knew what she was doing. When it was finished, she told me to please wait while she took a shower.

When she came back, she flicked on a red light (to alert the manager that it was sexy time in the stall), dropped the towel, and began stroking my back very lightly with her rack. Then she said 'You're ready to fill me now, arent you?' She then flipped me over, and then immediately covered Peter, and took me in.

I guess the key is that I never said 'no' to any of the flirty talk, and never said I wouldn't. I GUESS I could have told her I wasn't interested in FS, instead, I just grinned and nodded my head like a depraved degenerate idiot whenever she said anything dirty. Maybe all the flirty questions are some sort of way to sniff out the cops? Like cops can't agree for FS, or it's entrapment or something.

At the end of the day, yes it was FS, but I guess my only complaint was that FS was incredibly
mechanical, and like I said- very much like just another massage technique. I've had great GFE+ FS from Raku in Gotanda for 11,000- and prefer it to Himawari, but Himawari is rather convenient.
 
hey k1234k ty for the detailed info :D do you remember the name of the girl u had?
 
Some details- I didn't have to ask for FS at Himawari- as soon as I saw her, she gave me a hug, and said "A suave guy! Lucky! (In heavily Korean accented Japanese) and immediately grabbed my crotch and giggled. Then she said 'ooh- you brought me a present!'

During the shower, she continued the flirty talk, and although the shower wasn't so sexy (she's clothed, and we actually chatted a lot about Korea, Japanese and English study), she would occasionally flick at Peter and say 'you're gonna have fun- you're going places!

Before beginning the massage, she told me to lie face down, and then whispers in my ear 'after I get done with the massage, you're gonna take care of me, aren't you?'

I guess the massage lasted 15 minutes or so- and actually felt great. She actually kinda knew what she was doing. When it was finished, she told me to please wait while she took a shower.

When she came back, she flicked on a red light (to alert the manager that it was sexy time in the stall), dropped the towel, and began stroking my back very lightly with her rack. Then she said 'You're ready to fill me now, arent you?' She then flipped me over, and then immediately covered Peter, and took me in.

I guess the key is that I never said 'no' to any of the flirty talk, and never said I wouldn't. I GUESS I could have told her I wasn't interested in FS, instead, I just grinned and nodded my head like a depraved degenerate idiot whenever she said anything dirty. Maybe all the flirty questions are some sort of way to sniff out the cops? Like cops can't agree for FS, or it's entrapment or something.

At the end of the day, yes it was FS, but I guess my only complaint was that FS was incredibly
mechanical, and like I said- very much like just another massage technique. I've had great GFE+ FS from Raku in Gotanda for 11,000- and prefer it to Himawari, but Himawari is rather convenient.

Good day. Thanks for the information. Where in Gotanda is Raku and do they have a website. :eek: Thanks.
 
Thank you, Meijii and K1234K. I'm so used to just touch and go that I thought there might be something different in Japan. Glad to see the same old rules still apply here too!
 
what is raku in gotanda? do they have a website? do you need to speak japanese? foreigner friendly? thank you
 
Raku website:
es-raku.com

Foreigners are ok, but the tencho can't speak English at all. The service is very similar to Himawari, but 1000 yen more expensive.Shower, Massage then covered FS with 30-ish Korean women. Biggest differences? At Raku, you can get DK, BBBJ, and GFE in addition to CFS.
 
Raku website:
es-raku.com

Foreigners are ok, but the tencho can't speak English at all. The service is very similar to Himawari, but 1000 yen more expensive.Shower, Massage then covered FS with 30-ish Korean women. Biggest differences? At Raku, you can get DK, BBBJ, and GFE in addition to CFS.


Thanks for the heads up- I should check that place out soon. Those might be the same quality girls that are advertised in their early 20s for $200 in the US. Are the pictures accurate at all? Some attractive girls there.
 
k1234k

Many thanks for the information. Looking forward to something different.
 
Can somebody please give me directions to Raku? I know where Dio is as a point of reference. Thanks TAG peeps.
 
Can somebody please give me directions to Raku? I know where Dio is as a point of reference. Thanks TAG peeps.

I think k1234k left out an important part- Japanese is required to make an appointment. The website a) doesn't give an exact address other than the general location and b) it explicitly says to call when you get to Gotanda station for directions.

To be frank, if you neither can read what's on the site: 品川 五反田駅西口からお電話下さい (Shinagawa, Gotanda Station West Exit, call from there) nor be able to ask and receive the address over the phone in Japanese, you probably aren't going to be able to get service there. Sorry.
 
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. To clarify- yes, the tencho CAN'T speak English. At ALL. So unless you speak Korean or cave-man Japanese, you can't play. I actually found the place using Google Maps- that crude map is actually enough info to find it- you can actually see the signage in street view.

After I found it, I called the shop with my poor Japanese skills , and told him I was at Gotanda station now, and asked if the shop was open. He said yes, and then I told him I knew where the place was, and that I would be there in 5 minutes. He said he was looking forward to my arrival.

There are reports of others who didn't call in advance, and just went straight to the door, but I think if you can call, you should. The door is windowless, dead bolted, and with an intercom button for a reason.

Keep in mind that in general, the women are no where near as young as you see on the site, and that only the first 4 or so girls in the photo list are actually working there. I believe the girls come into Japan on 3 month tourist visas, and have to 'cycle out' in order not to overstay their visa.

I had 2 memorable encounters there- although the provider was mid 30s, she was very, very, very responsive to FS, gave a decidedly NON mechanical BBBJ, and really gave a great GFE. YMMV, but good luck. Make sure to order the 11,000 yen course at a minimum- the cheapest course doesn't come with FS.
 
Thanks for the update. I don't care as much about young as I do general attractiveness/ slender women. I'll hopefully get to give it a try this weekend or so and I'll report.
 
Just a little extra information on Himawari.

The address according to Google Maps is

上野 3丁目21番10号 日本

maps.gstatic.com/m/streetview/?panoid=7ntP-WqLL16kZeUXpnYjtg&cbp=0,255.9637565320735,,0,0

It's very close to Doutor (if you want a covert way to ask where it is) and there's a Kotobuki golf in the next building. I noticed that it's around the corner from the post office (oether side) and that the train tracks are oppisite the shop. If you click the street view and check the Tomato web link on the first page of this thread then you can clearly read the name of the building over top of the door on the right hand side. It's between two food places. (the other side seems to be a aromatic massage place?)

If you check the street view look directly at the two air conditioner's external units and look right of the yellow sign attached to the wall. I haven't been, but I'm planning to sometime next month.
 
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. To clarify- yes, the tencho CAN'T speak English. At ALL. So unless you speak Korean or cave-man Japanese, you can't play. I actually found the place using Google Maps- that crude map is actually enough info to find it- you can actually see the signage in street view.

After I found it, I called the shop with my poor Japanese skills , and told him I was at Gotanda station now, and asked if the shop was open. He said yes, and then I told him I knew where the place was, and that I would be there in 5 minutes. He said he was looking forward to my arrival.

There are reports of others who didn't call in advance, and just went straight to the door, but I think if you can call, you should. The door is windowless, dead bolted, and with an intercom button for a reason.

Keep in mind that in general, the women are no where near as young as you see on the site, and that only the first 4 or so girls in the photo list are actually working there. I believe the girls come into Japan on 3 month tourist visas, and have to 'cycle out' in order not to overstay their visa.

I had 2 memorable encounters there- although the provider was mid 30s, she was very, very, very responsive to FS, gave a decidedly NON mechanical BBBJ, and really gave a great GFE. YMMV, but good luck. Make sure to order the 11,000 yen course at a minimum- the cheapest course doesn't come with FS.


Can you give you a little more discreption of the building. As I get the road that runs by the river there seems to be several buildings in the street view that could be it but having it hard to find. Thanks.
 
Can you give you a little more discreption of the building. As I get the road that runs by the river there seems to be several buildings in the street view that could be it but having it hard to find. Thanks.

Look for the blue rolling street sign between the sushi shop and the hamburg shop with all of the crazy cactus growing in front of it.

You cant miss it.

Google coordinates
35.625879, 139.720707

Google address
Tōkyō-to, Shinagawa-ku, Nishigotanda, 2丁目15−11
 
For Raku, you need to look for the blue sign on the sidewalk with the Kanji for 'fun', which is pronounced 'Raku'. It looks like this:



Here's a screenshot of the google maps street view:

Raku Street View

The arrow points to the sign you are looking for, and the red box is the entrance on the left side of the building. Either walk all the way to the back to get to the elevators, or take the stairs.
 
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