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I'd love to hear opinions from both men and women.. so please feel free to reply! :)

Questions for the Gentlemen:

1) When wanting to pick up a lady at a bar or club, do you prefer going out alone or would you feel more comfortable arriving with a wingman?

2) How would you feel if a woman approached you instead?

Questions for the Ladies:

1) When you're looking for a ONS/partner at a bar or club, would you rather be approached by a man who's by himself or be introduced to a man by his wingman?

2) Would you approach someone who's with a group of friends?

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Thank you in advance.
 
Gentleman here!

1) My motto is "heart is a lonely hunter", so I like to be alone or maybe accompanied by one wingman (somebody I like and trust). Crowds cockblock me and I don't like to spend my time with large groups.
2) Love is a game and somebody has to take the first step... Ladies are welcome to break the ice.
 
1. I guess i'd rather be approached by a guy alone. Other guys dont have extra value for me unless i'm with a friend and the other guy is sincerely interested in my friend (so not only to keep her distracted while his friend steals me away), or if there is two attractive guys and they are interested in a threesome (i was out with a friend once and we got picked up by two cuties. She got tired and wanted to go home so i took both of the guys for myself ;) ).
I'm not totally opposed of a guy who's with his friends talking to me though, but if he's alone it would be more intimate.

2. Not so easily i guess. Maybe if we have some eyecontact first and he seems really into me and signing me over.

On a different note, except for street pick up where you only pass each other in a few seconds and one of you may not even notice the other, i think approach without eyecontact and a bit nonverbal flirting is really boring, cold and not done. I wanna be swept off my feet by a don juan, not clinically approached.
 
Gentleman here. My opinion (not experience since that's imaginery)

1) A wingman is nice to have just for conversation purposes, telling stories, making jokes etc. If the lady is alone though, probably best to go alone so that shes not outnumbered.

2) If I get approached, something is very wrong. Self-loathing aside, I'm happy to chat. The direct approach is nice since I can't read subtle cues.
 
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1. I would rather have a man approach me on his own even if he is there with a wingman or a group. I like a man who is not afraid to take action. The universe doesn't care what you want, what you feel, what you think, what you hope or what you desire, the universe only moves when you take action.

2. I would approach someone in a group if I am interested. I wouldn't have had the same courage and conviction during my younger years but as I am older now, I no longer tolerate living my life out of the space of fear.
 
1. I would rather have a man approach me on his own even if he is there with a wingman or a group. I like a man who is not afraid to take action. The universe doesn't care what you want, what you feel, what you think, what you hope or what you desire, the universe only moves when you take action.

2. I would approach someone in a group if I am interested. I wouldn't have had the same courage and conviction during my younger years but as I am older now, I no longer tolerate living my life out of the space of fear.
Something it would have been very useful to know when I was 16 and totally clueless abut sex and girls...
 
If I were to visit a bar or club with the very specific purpose of picking up a lady (going on the hunt), I go for dolo (one wingman). There's only one person in the world I trust enough to do that so this does not occur often at all.

As for women approaching me, I prefer it. I feel that it shifts the balance of power in my favor if I'm the one being propositioned rather than the other way around. My mode of operation in bars is to go alone with no specific aims (aside from drinking) but to be prepared for anything. If something happens, great. If not, no great loss.
 
1) I'd prefer going it alone. One reason is because I'm more of a ladies' man, and don't usually hang out with guys a lot. Why? Hmm, probably because I'm not one for crude language or what some term "locker room talk". I may be wrong though. What do guys mostly talk about when they hang out together?

2) Slightly mixed feelings, to be honest. 85% flattered. I may be sporty, somewhat fit (i.e. not fat) and dress nicely, but I wouldn't call myself ikemen by a long shot. The six-pack is still taking a bit longer to develop! 15% questionable. I'm not much of a hunter, but at the same time, I don't go for huntress types. It's nice that a girl has the confidence to approach me, but it may come off as a bit strong. Maybe approach me with a girl friend? ;)
 
I have my normal problems answering a question like this because last time I checked I was not a lady (well, at least couple of cm away from that) and all the girls always say to me "Mike, you ain't no gentleman".

So at the pubs which have only these two toilets available I usually end up peeing in my pants.

But anyway:

1) I usually don't go out for the explicit purpose of picking up a lady but more in general to have fun. Also I don't have much preference if I do it alone or with some other people. Only times when I noticed it makes a difference is with this one guy who always tries to pick up us a threesome :eek:

2) I like when people approach me, male or female. Though if you'd ask me I would not probably know for most of my lady friends which one actually approached first, me or her.
 
What do guys mostly talk about when they hang out together?

We talk about interesting things. What is interesting usually differs from a guy to guy. You know guys are almost like people in that respect, the only difference is they have dicks.
 
Questions for the Gentlemen:

1) When wanting to pick up a lady at a bar or club, do you prefer going out alone or would you feel more comfortable arriving with a wingman?

2) How would you feel if a woman approached you instead?
1) depends if she's alone or with another girl, if she's alone I'll communicate with eyes while having fun with my friends (I don't go to bars or clubs alone) and wait for her body language answer to take the chance.

2) It always feels good when it happens, and it does sometimes.
 
Gentleman here!

1) My motto is "heart is a lonely hunter", so I like to be alone or maybe accompanied by one wingman (somebody I like and trust). Crowds cockblock me and I don't like to spend my time with large groups.
2) Love is a game and somebody has to take the first step... Ladies are welcome to break the ice.
opposite for me, I feel better in groups and in the same time I have a lot better success in such situations.
 
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1 - I've never had what I'd consider a wingman, a partnership of guys out to help each other pick-up women. It seems counterintuitive to me. And if I am out with a male friend to visit with him, I can't see dumping him to go off with a woman I've just met; if I did meet someone that seemed interested and interesting, I could see taking her number or LINE I suppose.

2 - Pleased by her interest and intrigued by her somewhat unconventional move. But these days when this happens it is usually a girl under 7 years old who thinks I'm Santa Claus and wants to give me her Xmas list...and it totally charms me. Little boys do it too, of course.

-Ww
 
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1. I don't go out specifically to pick up in bars or clubs; I either go to be sociable with friends / coworkers or or to specific music events, or if I'm travelling somewhere new I'm happy going out alone to check out the nightlife. The latter scenario has always been far, far, far more likely to end up with me getting laid though - so if I were to ever go out specifically to pick up, I'd go it alone. I'd always prefer to approach alone to a girl by herself or in a group of 3+, though I guess if it's 2 girls then in that scenario I'd prefer to approach as a pair of guys.

2. I love being approached by women; if I'm not into them it's still nice to know you're attracting interest, and if I am into them, well, that's awesome basically. I'm fortunate enough to have this happen every so often (though not much here in Korea - find getting laid to be very hard work here!), which is a good thing as (to use the lingo) I don't reckon I've got particularly great game myself!
 
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I would prefer to enter the bar with a friend but using said friend as a wingman no.

A girl initiating on me would make things SOOOOOOOOO MUCH EASIER FOR ME. A girl expressing their interest in me by initiating the conversation makes so i dont have to go through all these mental gymnastics in my head trying to figure out does this girl have any remote interest in me or is she just humoring me in an attempt to save face. There is nothing i hate more than wasting my time and thats why i struggle so hard to initiate on women.
 
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1- I never go to a club or bar with the only purpose to pick up a girl. I am going to such places with the idea to have some social time with friends. If there are some temptations in the bar in the form of a group of attractive ladies, I would tend to approach them as a group with a friend to make to whole thing more casual. I would never make any approach if there are no first sign of interest from the ladies. Call it lazy or wise...
2- I am not sure what "getting approach by a lady" actually means. If we are talking about a lady starting a conversation with me out of the blue in a bar, to be cruelly honest, it happens to me when they are seriously drunk or when they want some compensation. If we are talking about looking at me in a suggestive way, I would take it as an invitation and would be really willing to escalate.
During a social event like friends gathering, wedding, company event, etc... , it would not be an issue at all.
 
Gentleman here.

1) I would prefer to work with a wingman but they play more of a passive role unless the lady is with a friend(s). They play a passive role by making me appear not as a complete creeper while I scope out the environment or a specific lady. So when I do finally approach someone, they won't be as weirded out because I'm just out hanging with my buddy. Then of course when she rejects me, this becomes a wonderful defense/fallback mechanism for my frail ego who because I can just go back to hanging out with my buddy.

2) I think it's wonderful when a lady approaches me. It takes a lot of courage and makes me feel vulnerable when I have to do it, so I instantly have a lot of respect for the lady when she puts herself situation. It's also very flattering.
 
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Questions for the Ladies:

1) When you're looking for a ONS/partner at a bar or club, would you rather be approached by a man who's by himself or be introduced to a man by his wingman?

2) Would you approach someone who's with a group of friends?
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What are your answers to these questions?
 
Interesting. Well in response to your questions, here goes:
Questions for the Gentlemen:

1) When wanting to pick up a lady at a bar or club, do you prefer going out alone or would you feel more comfortable arriving with a wingman?
Alone, every time. I like to think of myself as the Chazz Michaels Michaels of the Japan PU scene.

2) How would you feel if a woman approached you instead?
Suspicious. Very suspicious. Pretty sure the only women who have ever approached me are drunk, crazy, or more crazy. Not that I have any problem hooking up with any of those. If a woman approached me she would be pretty much guaranteed a SNL however drunk or crazy she was.
 
1) When you're looking for a ONS/partner at a bar or club, would you rather be approached by a man who's by himself or be introduced to a man by his wingman?
Wingman always a good choice, simply becouse most woman dont go out alone..

2) How would you feel if a woman approached you instead?
Its very nice, happens aroud here all the time
 
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Questions for the Gentlemen:

1) When wanting to pick up a lady at a bar or club, do you prefer going out alone or would you feel more comfortable arriving with a wingman?

2) How would you feel if a woman approached you instead?

1. Either way really. By yourself is often more productive in terms of hooking up with girls if it's on the street / in public. But it's always nice to have someone to chat with in between the interactions or if there's 2 girls.

2. I'd think she was really confident. Depending on where I was (Roppongi, other countries) I'd wonder if she had some agenda like drugging me or trying to get money, so I'd be careful going somewhere she wanted to go if I didn't know it. Generally, I like to lead things so I guess the best way for a girl to approach me would be to put herself near me and maybe look over. I can handle the rest ;)
 
1. Either way really. By yourself is often more productive in terms of hooking up with girls if it's on the street / in public. But it's always nice to have someone to chat with in between the interactions or if there's 2 girls.

2. I'd think she was really confident. Depending on where I was (Roppongi, other countries) I'd wonder if she had some agenda like drugging me or trying to get money, so I'd be careful going somewhere she wanted to go if I didn't know it. Generally, I like to lead things so I guess the best way for a girl to approach me would be to put herself near me and maybe look over. I can handle the rest ;)

I like the (Roppongi, other countries) thing ... is the coma additive or separative? (if thats a word, not sure). I mean, do you consider that in Roppongi AND other countries you get that risk more often than in any non-Roppongi part of Japan? It would make sense