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How many Japanese friends do you have?

User#8628 said:
Some kids back in highschool used to speak English to each other. Just... cringle alert!

I guess that its less weird for foreigners that are both in Japan to speak Japanese to each other, in some cases their Japanese may actually be better than their English, but it definitely looks off.
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It's only natural to use the language both know best. I would speak french with friends from Senegal, Cote d'Ivoire, Belgium, France ... Arabic with middle eastern friends and English with most of the others but I do speak Japanese with non English speaker foreigners who can't speak the previously mentioned languages and most of them are Asian so it doesn't look weird to me.
 
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Communicate in whatever language works for you and the individuals you're talking to at the time. When I was spending some time in Germany with foreigners from all over the place, we spoke German (even if imperfectly) because not everyone knew English. But you better believe the minute I was alone with the other Americans and Brits that we switched back to English.

Laziness, I think, has nothing to do with it. We tend to choose whatever allows us to best communicate our ideas. I also don't think it's weird for foreigners to speak Japanese when in Japan, even to each other, but I certainly wouldn't expect them to if they both have a shared native tongue.
 
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Friend of mine asked her coworker if he wants her to split his head with an axe once. Deleted work she'd spent all week doing apparently.

You just need to get them angry enough.
 
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Just spoke Japanese to another foreigner. She had been in Japan for just three years but I am still quite certain her Japanese is way better than my Nepali.

And she was way too cute not to talk to.
 
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majimekun said:
Another thing that I don't understand is the reason why foreigners don't try to speak Japanese among themselves.
Are they too lazy or just plain stupid?
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Bad advice. There are enough Japanese people in Japan if you want to practice the language.

Speaking Japanese to a gaijin is pointless unless they are native speaker level. You are likely to pick up bad Japanese speaking habits and reinforce errors in your own speaking otherwise.
 
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majimekun said:
There in only one way to improve your Japanese dramatically : arguments with your Japanese girlfriend.
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User#8628 said:
This is why i know just as much swear words and rude boys language as formal classroom Japanese, lol!
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Not the only way, there's also pissing off your Japanese wife. ;)

And it's a really weird feeling to both being yelled at and learning at the same time.:LOL:
 
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Well I don't know if its because I'm from Hawaii, but been told many times that Hawaii has a very positive image for Japanese people. In my first trip to Japan in June, felt like I made a few friends and felt so welcomed went back to Japan 5 months later. In only 2 meetings, we've gone to dinner together, they've suggested places for me to sight see that I haven't gone to yet and have even asked me to go out with them on outings with their friends. We now periodically converse by email or through Facebook. So maybe I've been blessed.
 
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Not to put a damper on your enthusiasm but it’s indeed really easy to make such “friends” in Japan. When I mention I’m from Paris I also benefit from the positive image it has with a certain subset of the Japanese population.

Long-term friendship is a whole different story however.
 
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MossBoss said:
Bad advice. There are enough Japanese people in Japan if you want to practice the language.

Speaking Japanese to a gaijin is pointless unless they are native speaker level. You are likely to pick up bad Japanese speaking habits and reinforce errors in your own speaking otherwise.
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yep its also incredibly cringeworthy. Some of my connections on Facebook do it, they speak pretty basic Japanese but try and 'show off' by commenting on each other's photo's etc with Japanese words.
They are the type of people that when a native Japanese tells them they speak great Japanese just to be polite (and because all Japanese people by law are required to say 'nihongo jouzu desu ne' when a foreigner attempts to construct a basic sentence in Japanese), they actually believe they speak great Japanese.
 
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They come out with something like. "Watashi no chinchin is bigu" and consider themselves to be hot shit and equivalent to a native Japanese speaker in terms of being able to communicate in the language.
 
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Des Esseintes said:
Long-term friendship is a whole different story however.
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I wouldn't call anyone a friend if I haven't known him/her at least ten years.

Durg50 said:
they speak pretty basic Japanese but try and 'show off' by commenting on each other's photo's etc with Japanese words.
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Those are my favourites. I especially like when they are showing off but misspell even the simplest words. I know, I am a bad person and I will burn in hell. Still I continue to laugh until that happens. :D

MossBoss said:
They come out with something like. "Watashi no chinchin is bigu" and consider themselves to be hot shit and equivalent to a native Japanese speaker in terms of being able to communicate in the language.
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Yeah, it's totally different with guys like me who are immersed in the culture so much we understand that the only important thing is that it's beautiful. :confused:
 
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MossBoss said:
They come out with something like. "Watashi no chinchin is bigu" and consider themselves to be hot shit and equivalent to a native Japanese speaker in terms of being able to communicate in the language.
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Well the Japanese also love it when we use chinchin the french way (casual equivalent of "Kampai" and yes, I said it first time I raised glasses with Japanese people - they kinda expected me to say it ) :D
 
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MossBoss said:
Speaking Japanese to a gaijin is pointless unless they are native speaker level.
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Unless you have no other language in common. :)
 
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MikeH said:
Most people form their friendships when they are growing up, so up to high school or university. And most foreigners come to Japan when they are already adults, or at least young adults so it is quite understandable if they don't have many Japanese friends.

Better question would be how many new Japanese vs. other friends you have made since moving to Japan.
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I don't agree with this. I have maybe 3 friends in my life now from High School. And since I didn't go to University, I have none from there. Most of my friends are from night clubs I use to hang out at 20 years ago, and from social groups I was a part of 10 years ago. People will continue to make friends past university but it depends on how active you are outside of your social circles and if you're willing to break out of them to find new friends.
 
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Des Esseintes said:
Not to put a damper on your enthusiasm but it’s indeed really easy to make such “friends” in Japan. When I mention I’m from Paris I also benefit from the positive image it has with a certain subset of the Japanese population.

Long-term friendship is a whole different story however.
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Exactly. The same thing that makes Hawaiiguys 'friendships' happen is the same thing that makes real friendships pretty much impossible: Most Japanese people will always look at you as their gaijin friend. Not as their friend. Romances can be different. Marriages are certainly different. But friends just doesnt really happen here.
 
Yeah, its the true but like in Nihongo there is exceptions guys, really:
I met an amazing female one month ago on a well know meeting site, and we have so good chemistry...chatted on line since 1 month now, from morning to night, had very privacy talking, high laughed, wtf, more complicity than i had even had with my ex wife 20 years married, no sex taking, no, she explained me the Japanese rules for that, so different, I never met a so smart and beautiful lady by now, and its even better than in my dream coz she is Japanese, speak fluent english, never married, 40, stunning, have good job there, a lot guys lurk on her but, but was searching someone "special" she told me , so thats i am hehe, she have her big holidays coming and she is waiting me now, so i will come back Tokyo さらいしゅう! with my wallet full of champagne, and gifts, for join my new love for the first days of 2018, then we go somewhere, near.
She is the wife of my second life...im so happy now, the wheel turns guys, its the true.. After, she will come to me in here, she even begin to learn some french skills :)
Nothing to see with the Thai girl that i thought to love some months ago, and hat had no brain.
So guys it worth to take effort to learn Nihongo, and to be patient, to be smart, but mostly respectful, she told me how much morons online come on sex topics in one week, or worst threated her for months, when she avoid them.

To all here, i wish you some good fucked for 2018 though...
 
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Hofmeyer said:
Maybe I'm just an asshole, but maybe watch a show called Catfished.
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No! you are not, dont be so severe with yourself, May be you just the kind of "never will" (a moron in her language, sorry) like she mentioned above? no worries bro ;)
 
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"Fighting morons until Death", it could figure on our blason ancestor they did crusaders...haha, i like to fight guys., no worries.

PS; try to get some general knowledges skills at least on Nihon culture, history..Its a fabulous country.

Like mine this culture not started with walt disney, lol., its a plus for us and will make a BIG difference with yu yankees i admit :), no offense though.
 
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we will laugh hard when i will ask her this topic guys, thanks for that Bigdick, it will even better after so good laughs hahaha.
 
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