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I'm writing this quickly so it might be replete with errors:

Where do I even begin? I just got past probably the third time of going through the "We are over" remarks from a girl who worked at one of the major providers here in Tokyo for foreigners. I won't say where, but basically she has a twin sister she worked with temporarily at the provider. I met her on the street about 10 months ago. We developed a relationship. I lied that I was married with a kid the first two weeks until she asked me. I opened up everything. She was visibly distraught about that.

It wasn't until 8 weeks into our relationship, after she left Japan that I found out on my own that she was doing outcall services. She left, and tried to tell me that her and the sister were "thinking about a sex business." I confessed that I had already known everything. She was speechless.

We get past that with the first "BYE BYE Then" dump, I delete her, she comes back apologizing, she does her outcall thing, never informs me she's in Tokyo for a month as promised, yet we make plans in late September to go to America and the Turks and Caicos together despite her acting entirely crazy over me prior to that. She even asked me to meet her at Shinjuku Station hours before her last flight out of Japan among many other overly crazy behaviors of passion (both in public and in the hotel). So Basically spent 5 weeks with her early last year face-to-face, and the 2nd time we meet face-to-face is January, in Tokyo, fly to America, and then Turks and Caicos together. We both had an amazing time together. We got to experience arguably the best beach in the world. Even my Jamaican friend said "She'll never get such an experience again."

In The T&C is where another fall-out happened again. About my marriage, I have a kid, I should be paying her money and that would change our relationship and ultimately her feelings towards me. I told her 'no way,' it then becomes a business transaction (uh , excuse me. we just finished a $200+ dinner in T&C at a very private resort in a romantic setting). She was texting the twin while I was in the bathroom. I could see that. The twin is all business (i've met her a couple times). No talking for the rest of the night. We were both sleepless, She's humming and texting in the hotel room. Hugs me, huffing and puffing, pushes me away, yada yada. It' wasn't until later the next day that we took an amazing boat ride to one of the private islands that she began the emotional swing to "I'm crazy about you" again. So all ended well with that trip and we took a business class flight back to Tokyo (her first) after doing some face-abuse-f__king in the airport lounge shower (a first for me).

On the flight back everything is ok but she had mentioned she didn't want to continue because I'm married and it hurt her. Ok. I agreed. We arrived in Tokyo, hugged, she looked sad and said bye. I deleted her from Line, it hurt me too. But I still yearned to communicate with her despite her telling me to not chat with her anymore. She has this face and character that makes me laugh, and laugh hard. Despite her saying no, I still tried to contact her in Tokyo (she had 7 days in a hotel here - on call as I found out through her BDSM agency (she does really hard stuff I can't begin to describe).

She refused the first day, but a few days later I tried to introduce her to doing a facial video with a buddy. She basically told me to F-OFF! But within a day we made amends and I told her I was horny and she invited me over to her hotel since she just had 2 days left in Gotanda. I told her to reserve a restaurant, she reserved a valentines day candy heart with our names on it and she took photos of us. I was a little surprised, but she enjoyed it. She goes back to her host country and things are going well until....

A week ago she suddenly, and out of the blue, during a good conversation of the difference between men and women (men are dogs women are cats), she suddenly says "you shouldn't contact me anymore, treat your family," along with something like you are a submissive man. Keep in mind she's the submissive girl in her RP and most of the time when we traveled together. Ok, so I don't contact her. 2 days pass, I don't contact her, and she sees that yet suddenly starts sending me all different photos of her with her sister together smiling at the camera, her doing things with friends, her making food, her plans to go overseas, etc, etc. This lasted about 5 days or so. It was like nothing happened in her mind. I put her on ice for a week, no response until the 7th day. I apologized for ignoring her. She said it was all ok. Everything is going great again for 48 hours afterward - sharing our memories of Turks and Caicos and seemingly strong "I miss you" yada yada.

Then, she requested a video call after having a good conversation. The next morning the video had a bad connection, couldn't speak or see her well. Suddenly after the call, she said "BTW if you betray me in our relationship, I won't forgive you." What is that sudden comment, and about what? She knew our circumstances. The shit hit the fan in the worst way possible later that day. I let lose on her, she said she's not interested in a married man she sees no future in (she told me that the first time months ago). I told her I made myself clear after meeting her the first month yet when I found out about her job I never criticised her line of work or who she was texting while with me. It became worse by the moment, yet I held restraint. But she told me it was ok to look down on her (I assume degrade her). I told I will if it were to get to that point, but didn't want to go down that road. I got a sharp tongue and told her to stop spewing this in love nonsense if she has no merit behind it. That's when she told me "I love you," "Shall I say it again? I f-king love you," multiple times ultimately telling me to F-OFF Mother-F-er, etc etc. It was bad. To put things into perspective, she once had asked me if I thought she had AVPD (Aversion Personality Disorder).

It's way too long to go into details, but basically this girl has been so wishy-washy from day 1. I simply don't get it, passionate and crazy in person, until she leaves and is away and then becomes very cold and combative. If she truely has AVPD it would add some sense to all this. I'm at a loss as to why she says my words are cheap, and I'm a middle-aged miserable man, and she says she's a loser. She had pissed me off with such ignorant comments of us spending only 10 days 24/hours a day together in the past year and I told her that it's idiotic to judge people so quickly. Yet she still thinks in such a way. I'm at a loss and wondering about your input. 19 years of long-term relationships with 3 Asian women gives me a little confidence in thinking I'm a normal person with most women. I open to all criticism and comments. The drama that I have experienced with this girl (yet she is still such a beautiful person) is light-years above any other woman, Asian for that matter, I've had a relationship with, yet with so little face-to-face time together.
 
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Certainly sounds like a mental health issue. I see some similarities to someone that I knew with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). Frankly, you aren't in a position to fix her, and this is not going to improve. If anything, it will probably get more volatile. I think you need to walk away and totally break off contact. Avoid getting sucked back in.
 
Basically, she's literally saying "Let me go" and has said she has had friends that wonder why she's so strange and why she disappears on them. I don't want to change her. That's futile. She's mentioned she only wants to have fun, but I'm not her future man. Ok, cool with me. Why can't we just get along then?
 
It sounds to me like Bi-Polar disorder, with a bit of addictive personality: when she is up you guys have a great time, when she is down she tells you to fuck off, when you are not around she misses you because of her "addiction" to you and has to have you back. Then, there is the possibility she wants to see how much shit you will put up with from her... since you are a sub-human for having a relationship with another woman while you are married with a kid... or whatever you want to call it... Human nature is to want what you can't have... She knows she can "have" you because you are married... but she seems to enjoy your company as much as you enjoy hers... I am not a doctor/psychologist... just my guess based on own experiences with people that have Bi-Polar Disorder.. Addiction is usually associated with this as it feeds the "highs" when they are in a manic state..... Again, I know this does not solve or explain everything that's happened to you, but maybe shed a small beam of light on the behavioral side of things.
 
This is a textbook case of what they mean by "Never stick your dick in crazy".

I've made this mistake and it can take years to get over it. As good as it feels when it's good you pay for it way out of proportion to anything you get out of it.
 
I once was with a woman with unmedicated bipolar disorder for a good length of time. What you describe sounds exactly like that particular ex and her roller coaster.
 
I need to reword one sentence:
"I simply don't get it, passionate and crazy in person, until she leaves and is away and then becomes very cold and combative."
She becomes more or less "I miss you" for a few days to stand-offish and "you shouldn't see me anymore to eventually criticizing me which is out of her normal nature. Combative and cold are not correct. What's so weird is how this girl was the most intensely affectionate and passionate women I've met when meeting in person. I've never seen such a thirst like this from any woman. At the start of the relationship that gave me a warning bell (I had thought it was infatuation and she would be a hot flame to die out quickly).

I want to know from the girls here who do the same work - Are most of you like this? I'm honestly unsure, excuse my question if I offend any women here.
 
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I want to know from the girls here who do the same work - Are most of you like this? I'm honestly unsure, excuse my question if I offend any women here.
Yes it is a bit offensive.
I can't speak for other people, but while i like to flirt with danger, i consider myself someone with good self control who has her shit together.


As for your personal case, you see she is troubled, yet you never let go of her? I don't think she is the only one at fault in this situation.
 
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Is it at all possible that you find a certain satisfaction with the drama of the relationship?

You seem to be fully aware that your relationship involves an emotional roller-coaster ride-for both of you.
 
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Is it at all possible that you find a certain satisfaction with the drama of the relationship?

You seem to be fully aware that your relationship involves an emotional roller-coaster ride-for both of you.

Drama - Hell no! The highs yes, the lows - hell no again! Yes, I have recently become aware and affirmed that this at this point it was definitely a roller coaster ride. At first I was unsure of these radical ups and downs. But now I'm more confident it was insanity. I've dated one girl once that may/possibly could have been borderline personality disorder. That 5 years living together got to be too much.

My point is we were both clear I'm married with a kid. Yet she almost never asked questions about my family except for the occasional "when was the last time you had sex with her?" I told the truth with everything and that indicated our marriage was not falling apart anytime soon. Once she even said to feed the chocolate covering my dick from her mouth to my wife's. So there were some definite jealously issues. However, the biggest shock is the sudden and rampant "I fucking love you, shall I say it more" followed by multiple attacks of "fuck you mf." That shocked me, infatuation I assumed, but never love especially in just several months.

Btw, I never like a hard crash like this. I prefer a soft landing. I feel a need to tell her (based on those harsh "I fuck'n love you," and "FUXK YOU MOTHER Fxxxx" comments) that I never realized her feelings became so intense and I never meant any harm to her in any way. However, I still don't know if those were true feelings or shear manipulation. They sure seemed true with the veracity of the text.
 
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I don't even know what to say here. I've seen some crazy shit in my day, but this easily takes a spot on my top 5 list.

I've never encountered something like this on a personal life, despite being close to a few ladies in the industry.

If this were me, I'd probably have cut it early on despite how good the 'good times' were. I'm all for having fun, but the crazy in this story really outweighs the good in this.

However, the biggest shock is the sudden and rampant "I fucking love you, shall I say it more" followed by multiple attacks of "fuck you mf." That shocked me, infatuation I assumed, but never love especially in just several months.
/facepalm....

I feel like I know this girl, sounds identical to someone I've met before in this industry, maybe more than one.

Keep yourself safe man. Keep all the knives and other sharp objects out of her reach.
 
I have a sharp tongue. What drew out those harsh comments from her was me doubting her prior writings of mentioning a "woman in love keeps physical beauty" or along that lines. I had questioned her and told her not to spew such garbage with the seemingly games she had played the past week. That's when the shit hit the fan. My problem in that when I cut down someone's integrity (yeah, I'm married, I know, but at least I'm clear in that and open about it) it rarely makes that person look within oneself and isn't a fraction of what I truely would like to tell the girl whom pretends to be "Miss Innocence." So, I am at a loss to what exactly open relationships means.
 
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I had questioned her and told her not to spew such garbage....... That's when the shit hit the fan.

Yeah, that's really surprising, right? I wonder what would happen if you put your dick in a blender and then press the start button? :p:eek:
 
Yeah, that's really surprising, right? I wonder what would happen if you put your dick in a blender and then press the start button? :p:eek:
So what you're saying is either:
1) she was telling the truth - and it's ultimately my mistake/misunderstanding of her feelings.

or

no other option based on your comment (*unless women like her prefer to save face and masquerade arbitrary comments that should be accepted by men as fact and being a normal aspect of intrinsical "integrity" from women in her line of work).
 
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Dude, you got to enjoy more of this woman than most people ever get to enjoy with people they actually devote their lives to. You have some golden times to reflect on and cherish. Put them up and lock them away. Get off the ride while you have lost nothing of real value yet (I assume you love your kid, right?).

Walk away now.

Find some other woman - or women - to get your dick wet with. It will help with the breakup - give your emotions some perspective. But breakup you must. There isn't a thing you can do to help her but you can avoid the trainwreck up ahead.
 
Thanks for your point. And makes sense. But as I said before I'd like to get some 'soft landing' (reconciliation) instead of this train wreck (that already had happened). Maybe that's selfish, but at least I get my point across that I never meant any harm, my intentions were clear, genuine and never malicious, this, ultimately giving my selfish needs 'peace of mind," and some final closure. Am I wrong to think that way?
 
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...instead of this train wreck (that already had happened)...
What trainwreck? I'm talking about when your wife somehow gets involved and the lawyers show up.

Seriously? I don't see anything that would resemble "closure" on this one, not as I think you're expecting it. "Closure" would be a luxury. Even if you walk away now I imagine she will be bouncing in and out of your Line, e-mail, phone, - no idea how many ways she can contact you, maybe where you work?
 
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I'd like to get some 'soft landing' (reconciliation) instead of this train wreck (that already had happened).

You think it's a train wreck now, imagine what it'll be like if she decides to get vengeful.
 
The train wreck being solely what happened with the affair this week. I'm not worried about divorce. It would never happen. The wife has no clue how to initiate, or is willing to spend such time in, given the complexities of the laws, her nationality, the process required and other protective issues of my money that probably wouldn't allow easy access to, even as a spouse. I guess I see your point in that closure would be a luxury. And this girl wouldn't harass me or my personal life even if she had known where I live(d) or work(ed). She's more of the run from personal problems than get vengeance type.
 
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