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What is considered good salary in Japan

Durg50 said:
For a new grad that is a better than average salary yes.
However Im assuming she is bilingual and attractive, in which case 300k is lower than average for that type. Google, Amazon, all the investment banks pay around 400k for attractive bilingual women with half a brain to sit around and do ‘marketing’ or ‘account management’.
Train pass is standard for everyone working in japan.
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This. There really is a split market for young, bilingual, attractive and personable Japanese people. Those with any sense get 400k at Google or Morgan Stanley from the start. Those who are clueless get 275k at Hitachi Systems or Mizuho. And then a headhunter finds them and moves them up to 400k at Google.
 
Note to @TokyoJoeblow become a headhunter if you want to meet grade A women. Or stay at the language school and hang out with old trogs and drunken salarymen.
 
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buffet said:
I had a sugarbaby last year who just graduated from college. She told me that 300,000 yen per month is a really great salary for a new grad. It did not include any subsidy for housing but included the train pass to and from work and a bonus of 1 month's pay each year.
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30man with travel fees reimbursed is a good deal. That's more than the average teacher salary.
 
Lots of interesting insights here everyone, thank you. I am a late bloomer so I'm making lower than what I should be making at my age (other considerations factored in, of course), but I consider myself lucky at the same time.

Worked in eikaiwa for a number of years and got super fortunate being introduced to my current job via my network where I could get a higher salary, learn/cultivate more skills and improve my Japanese.

However, after a number of years I think as far as my salary is concerned and movement upwards within the company, I have hit a plateau and the only way to continue upwards is to change jobs. Which is unfortunate because I do enjoy where I currently work but want to earn more. I also have extra benefits other than the salary...but I think I can command a higher salary with my experience now that can make up for these extra benefits.

Anyways, I'm planning on making a move within the next 6 months...got a lot of thinking and preparing to do.
 
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I just transferd from google’s Mountain View office to Tokyo and still get the same salary which is 3000 usd per week (annual 17 mil yen). I have master degree and 5 years programming experience in back home.
 
Cwilly said:
I just transferd from google’s Mountain View office to Tokyo and still get the same salary which is 3000 usd per week (annual 17 mil yen). I have master degree and 5 years programming experience in back home.
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this is clearly not the norm thou lol
 
Cwilly said:
I just transferd from google’s Mountain View office to Tokyo and still get the same salary which is 3000 usd per week (annual 17 mil yen). I have master degree and 5 years programming experience in back home.
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That's livable... I'm assuming you'll be in a more 'senior' role.
Some of the people I deal with @ Google Tokyo, don't seem to have a social life. Or, a social life with other Google'ers.
Never been to a Google U.S. office, can't compare it...
 
raoxi said:
this is clearly not the norm thou lol
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It's a lot more norm for people in that degree range with a job that actually makes use of it. :)
Making less than 12m/yen/year with a masters degree in a decent field, is.... meh... (can do better)
Bachelor's ... making 10-15m/yen/year w/experience is common.

The norm for 'new graduates' and no experience folks, toss a rock in the pool and hit something like ~3m-6m/yen/year depending on the field & company.
 
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It's a lot more norm for people in that degree range with a job that actually makes use of it. :)
Making less than 12m/yen/year with a masters degree in a decent field, is.... meh... (can do better)
Bachelor's ... making 10-15m/yen/year w/experience is common.

The norm for 'new graduates' and no experience folks, toss a rock in the pool and hit something like ~3m-6m/yen/year depending on the field & company.
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Glad I never did fully accept a job with a “global” Japanese company then because based on what you’re posting, I should be a lot higher than the offered 5.5m with a MSc. and 9 years experience.
 
The problem with 17 mil as a programmer is that the path to 40 mil is a difficult one.
 
warubuta said:
The rest are incorrect. Nobody ever in the history of mankind regardless of location decides their career in high school.
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Unless we changed majors in college, most of my high school class decided in high school the careers we ended up in.
 
Scooker said:
Glad I never did fully accept a job with a “global” Japanese company then because based on what you’re posting, I should be a lot higher than the offered 5.5m with a MSc. and 9 years experience.
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Again, depends on the field of work.
 
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That's livable... I'm assuming you'll be in a more 'senior' role.
Some of the people I deal with @ Google Tokyo, don't seem to have a social life. Or, a social life with other Google'ers.
Never been to a Google U.S. office, can't compare it...
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I worked 50 hr per week but 60 hr if we have project deadlines. Google is always making sure to make employees happy by providing services such as free foods, gym, shower, laundry, clinic, transportation, 3 month free housing for newbie, etc. I lived with 2 girls and we split $4000 rent of 900 square feet Apt. I was very expensive to live in the Bay Area and I’m glad I get to keep the same salary.
 
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Cwilly said:
I worked 50 hr per week but 60 hr if we have project deadlines. Google is always making sure to make employees happy by providing services such as free foods, gym, shower, laundry, clinic, transportation, 3 month free housing for newbie, etc. I lived with 2 girls and we split $4000 rent of 900 square feet Apt. I was very expensive to live in the Bay Area and I’m glad I get to keep the same salary.
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And that’s why some of them rarely leave the office, everything is there that they need. I have a hard time getting a gf of mine to come downstairs for lunch! lol.
 
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A good salary in Japan is when you reach a stage you want to murder all politicians and civil servants in this country because you pay way too much in taxes. But as always YMMV
 
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Frenchy said:
A good salary in Japan is when you reach a stage you want to murder all politicians and civil servants in this country because you pay way too much in taxes. But as always YMMV
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Salary income yes. But investment income tops out at about 21% which is not so bad compared to some countries. Hell Frenchy its only money anyway. As long as you can pay for SBs, Camembert and Sancerre, that’s enough, right?
 
warubuta said:
Salary income yes. But investment income tops out at about 21% which is not so bad compared to some countries. Hell Frenchy its only money anyway. As long as you can pay for SBs, Camembert and Sancerre, that’s enough, right?
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Oui. Mais ca fait chier parfois
 
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And that’s why some of them rarely leave the office, everything is there that they need. I have a hard time getting a gf of mine to come downstairs for lunch! lol.
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The all enclosed self supporting IT campus concept was acceptable in the Valley when there were no restaurants or other services around. But now that Google et al are trying to do the same thing in SF and other cities, it looks like there is quite a bit of push back from city governments. If workers stop patronizing local eateries and shops, then urban life suffers. Community interaction declines and problems arise. Personally I couldn’t stand eating in the same cafeteria everyday even if the chef has a Michelin star. I need to get out and walk on the streets. Same a a dog needs a walk, a pig needs a walk too.
 
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update

My case (nenshuu)
college (baito only) 1.5 M (poor)
1st year 3M
2nd year 4M
3rd year 5M
4th year 6.5M
5th year 7.5M
6th year 8M
next year --> 8M again? :(
 
warubuta said:
Salary income yes. But investment income tops out at about 21% which is not so bad compared to some countries. Hell Frenchy its only money anyway. As long as you can pay for SBs, Camembert and Sancerre, that’s enough, right?
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I can confirm. I'm from Netherlands and used to pay 52% income tax. That's 4000 euro a month and I paid around 4000 euro tax.. I would make alot more if I lived in US but health care is very cheap in Netherlands compared to US.

Anyway Japan really isn't that bad as people make it to be.. Japan VAT = 10% in Netherlands (and most european countries) it's 21% if I ran my business in Japan and knew the language (I don't speak japanese fluently) I would have made alot more..
 
LeonGRAY said:
I can confirm. I'm from Netherlands and used to pay 52% income tax. That's 4000 euro a month and I paid around 4000 euro tax.. I would make alot more if I lived in US but health care is very cheap in Netherlands compared to US.

Anyway Japan really isn't that bad as people make it to be.. Japan VAT = 10% in Netherlands (and most european countries) it's 21% if I ran my business in Japan and knew the language (I don't speak japanese fluently) I would have made alot more..
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on the other hand are universities free like in France or do you have to keep saving for your children's future tuition ?
and do you pay the same % if you're single or with family or do you also have the family quotient system ?
 
e-smile said:
on the other hand are universities free like in France or do you have to keep saving for your children's future tuition ?
and do you pay the same % if you're single or with family or do you also have the family quotient system ?
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University in Netherlands is 2000 euro per year. The first year (if it's your first study) is only 1030 euro. So it's 5030 euro total. Compared to US, Japan, Australia and many other countries this is a joke! Universities in Netherlands have a good reputation worldwide so it's not like your degree doesn't mean anything. A long time ago I considered studying in Japan and it would cost me around 50k usd for 3 years and that did not include rent + living costs.
 
LeonGRAY said:
University in Netherlands is 2000 euro per year. The first year (only if it's your first study) is only 1030 euro. So it's 5030 euro total. Compared to US, Japan, Australia and many other countries this is a joke! Universities in Netherlands have a good reputation worldwide so it's not like your degree doesn't mean anything.
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in France it's almost free (170 euros)
 
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