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Please respond if you got your PR while unmarried

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Okay the title is a little bit catchy but here is what I mean:

Some people manage to get a Permanent Visa without beeing married and I heard from several different sources that it's almost impossible to get one under these conditions if you're not a Highly Skilled person who can give proof of great contribution to Japan (inventions, patents, etc.).

If you got your PR while being unmarried I want to know how hard it was for you and if you were one of these Highly Skilled one.

I'm on a "Engineer / Specialist in Humanities / International Services" visa and I got it thanks to 10 years experience in my field. Never went to UNI. Fluent in Japanese.

Thanks!
 
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I heard from several different sources that it's almost impossible to get one

There are all sorts of rumours floating around about PR qualifications. Your sources are, to be polite, misinformed.

Lots of people have taken this path. I did it myself.

There is an income requirement which they do not divulge but appears to be in the 3 to 4 million per annum range plus another 500-800 thousand per dependent, the income needs varying depending on what part of the country you live in - they're more forgiving if you live in Okinawa, less so if you live in MInato-ku. You need ten years of residency, for which student visas and working holiday visas do not count. You also need to have all your taxes and pension payments up to date - this is one of the few visa applications where they will check your pension contribution status. Otherwise, you just need to have a clean police record both in Japan and in your home country, though they don't always check in the home country.

The HSP status just means that you can get it with a lower residency requirement (as low as one year if you have HSP-1, three years otherwise, counted from the date you received HSP status).
 
And speaking of PR applications, TJB has been very silent for an extended period. I hope he's not sitting in immigration detention....
 
And speaking of PR applications, TJB has been very silent for an extended period. I hope he's not sitting in immigration detention....
He's not... he's been reading, but not posting.
@TokyoJoeblow - Show yourself man.
 
I haven't bothered (too mendokusai to round up a guarantor) but I'm sure I'd be rubber-stamp approved, over 20 years in Japan, at one employer the whole time.
 
A foreigner with a PR can be a guarantor as well. It doesn't need to be a Japanese person.

Yep you're right but even in that case you have to bother people/friends for your own private matters.
I'd rather use a company for that.
 
There is a new point system since last year. It will take into account your diploma, income, japanese level, age etc and give you x points per category. If you reach y points you can apply after 1 year in japan and below z points after 3 years. I was at 9.5 years when i applied so under 10 years and the immigration told me that i might get the pr approved if i send them the point sheet with all the required documents. You still need a guarantor though. I am single by the way
 
Thanks for your contribution.
Yep, I know that point system but unfortunately I can't have enough points.
As for the guarantor, it looks like you can use a company providing such a service : http://www.hoshonin.jp/foreign.html
This plus a couple of recommendation letters should do the trick.

There is a new point system since last year. It will take into account your diploma, income, japanese level, age etc and give you x points per category. If you reach y points you can apply after 1 year in japan and below z points after 3 years. I was at 9.5 years when i applied so under 10 years and the immigration told me that i might get the pr approved if i send them the point sheet with all the required documents. You still need a guarantor though. I am single by the way
 
I don't really want to create an entirely new thread for this question because there is this thread and my original post on the same subject.

So there are not many jobs here in Shizuoka and I have been job hunting with no luck for almost a month straight and nothing. Something might come up, but since my roommate isn't planning on moving to Tokyo until a year from now, I'm in a tough situation.

I have some friends in Tokyo that might be willing to help me out with my living situation just until I get on my feet.

My question is now that I have PR, I know that it is possible to live separately from my wife, but here is my new question...would it be alright to almost never visit her here in Shizuoka (where my registered address is) and just make direct deposits into her bank account (which she is OK with)?

Our marriage is bad, but we both are not ready for a divorce just yet (there are some factors I would rather not get into). Would immigration be suspicious or make a big deal out of me literally never visiting my wife?

I ask because I know if I did this without PR they would definitely see it as a red flag, but doesn't having PR make it less of a big deal? I assume someone will just say that PR isn't so special, but would they revoke my status over something like this?

I guess I could pay for my wife to come visit me in Tokyo instead of me going to Shizuoka, but I don't want to do this often as the train fares from here to Tokyo aren't exactly cheap (this includes even the local trains).

I remember reading a case where a foreign husband was working and living way up in Tohoku or Hokkaido and his Japanese wife was somewhere in Honshu and they almost never visited each other and he was fine...no idea if he has PR as well or what the details of his situation are/were.
 
Once you have a PR that's it. You have it. Having a PR makes that non-issue from a visa standpoint. I think the only way you can lose your PR is if you commit some sort of crime or leave Japan for an extended period without a re-entry permit.
 
Once you have a PR that's it. You have it. Having a PR makes that non-issue from a visa standpoint. I think the only way you can lose your PR is if you commit some sort of crime or leave Japan for an extended period without a re-entry permit.

Are you married and/or have PR yourself or know people in this situation (besides me)?

I sure hope having PR settles this issue of living apart from my wife with little to no visits. It isn't like I don't want to visit my wife because our marriage is bad, but I feel that it is more practical for saving more money.

She actually agrees with me because she or I could waste money visiting each other often or only do it once in a while and both save a lot more money in the process.
 
Once you have a PR that's it. You have it. Having a PR makes that non-issue from a visa standpoint. I think the only way you can lose your PR is if you commit some sort of crime or leave Japan for an extended period without a re-entry permit.

As you said it's pretty hard to lose your PR. The most common reason though is lying in your application and then got caught of it.
 
Once you have PR married, bad marriage whatever doesn’t matter. People get PR so they don’t have to depend on visa from work, or being married. Your relationship has no status on your PR or being in Japan now.
 
I don't really want to create an entirely new thread for this question because there is this thread and my original post on the same subject.

So there are not many jobs here in Shizuoka and I have been job hunting with no luck for almost a month straight and nothing. Something might come up, but since my roommate isn't planning on moving to Tokyo until a year from now, I'm in a tough situation.

I have some friends in Tokyo that might be willing to help me out with my living situation just until I get on my feet.

My question is now that I have PR, I know that it is possible to live separately from my wife, but here is my new question...would it be alright to almost never visit her here in Shizuoka (where my registered address is) and just make direct deposits into her bank account (which she is OK with)?

Our marriage is bad, but we both are not ready for a divorce just yet (there are some factors I would rather not get into). Would immigration be suspicious or make a big deal out of me literally never visiting my wife?

I ask because I know if I did this without PR they would definitely see it as a red flag, but doesn't having PR make it less of a big deal? I assume someone will just say that PR isn't so special, but would they revoke my status over something like this?

I guess I could pay for my wife to come visit me in Tokyo instead of me going to Shizuoka, but I don't want to do this often as the train fares from here to Tokyo aren't exactly cheap (this includes even the local trains).

I remember reading a case where a foreign husband was working and living way up in Tohoku or Hokkaido and his Japanese wife was somewhere in Honshu and they almost never visited each other and he was fine...no idea if he has PR as well or what the details of his situation are/were.
PR means you don’t have to stay married and don’t depend on her for a visa.
 
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