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Interesting. I've met a few people from here but most women on this site are looking for a bf/relationship.
 
Another thing about the online sites and how you can tell the male to female ratio is horrible is by asking the women you do manage to date about what they see on the site and about last minute cancels.

When women get flooded with messages, they can start running between guys like chickens with their heads cut off. Often they can't even committ to 1 day for 1 guy. They will promise to go on dates with 2 or 3 guys on the same day, then give ridiculously bad excuses for canceling with guys.

When male to female ratios are closer, women stop doing such abusive behavior because they have less offers for dates and must be more careful.
 
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Interesting. I've met a few people from here but most women on this site are looking for a bf/relationship.
Women almost always say this lie to cover what they are doing.

And it often happens that the woman has abused and ran through dozens of guys. Now she is old or getting sex is so easy for her that she is BORED. The exact opposite of the problem that guys have.

The new challenge for her is to find a SUCKER that she can mooch off of and take care of her so she doesn't have to work and be lazy. It's their dream to hit lucky lotto, but using and abusing guys. To do that, they put up this Cinderella lie and pretend to be near virgins.

I knew a couple of women that had admitted to having sex with HUNDREDS of guys from online. I had the rare oppourtunity of checking their online accounts, in exchange for fixing their computers.

Many women are absolutely ruthless predators that have sex way more than guys can imagine or that they would ever say.

Where guys are CHASING women for sex, the number they catch is often few. Where if a woman wants sex, she can easily get lots of men.
 
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Yea, I've met a cock hound on there.......unbelievable.....and you're so right about them.......
 
Another thing about the online sites and how you can tell the male to female ratio is horrible is by asking the women you do manage to date about what they see on the site and about last minute cancels.

When women get flooded with messages, they can start running between guys like chickens with their heads cut off. Often they can't even committ to 1 day for 1 guy. They will promise to go on dates with 2 or 3 guys on the same day, then give ridiculously bad excuses for canceling with guys.

When male to female ratios are closer, women stop doing such abusive behavior because they have less offers for dates and must be more careful.
I'm waiting to get cancelled tomorrow in fact.....I wouldn't put it past her. She's 36 with a kid......still looks good but any day she can turn that enevitable corner and no one will want her anymore. I'm afraid to stick in there in fact. Those unexpected little goodies that you can catch.......
 
I still have good results with JapanCupid.
I have a date with a sexy girl tomorrow thanks to them .... plus I got a new interest today from another good looking one.
I admit it was much better before (could get almost one new date per day) but you can still find someone as long as you create a profile that prove you're looking for a serious relationship.

I also have some results with Match.com but not as good as with JC.

Mixi is totally dead, don't waste your time with it.

Lastly, the Apps ecosystem offers quite goods opportunities as long as you're fluent in Japanese.
I recommend Pairs which is for serious relationships again.
Then, there is also イククレ but mostly for casual sex.
The last offer I got from this app was from a girl who offered sex for fun the conditions being condom plus payment of half of the hotel cost (1 man). Of course, I wasn't interested so I passed the offer. The mail exchange was (for a newbie like me) quite surreal though. While I proposed a date with a billiard game plus a walk together first, she replied that she wanted sex, only sex. Too bad ;)
 
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Another thing about the online sites and how you can tell the male to female ratio is horrible is by asking the women you do manage to date about what they see on the site and about last minute cancels.

I've been using these sites for years and I never had a single cancellation.
Maybe because I never choose dodgy/shallow profiles.
 
I've been using these sites for years and I never had a single cancellation.
Maybe because I never choose dodgy/shallow profiles.
Well, you are doing amazingly well. Maybe you are going after the 40 plus female crowd, who tend to be a bit more stable. My pals and I, on the other hand, get lots of Japanese female flakes. Today is a perfect example.

Yesterday, out of nowhere, a young Japanese chick asks me to meet her Saturday. She wants to meet at 6pm and e-mails me at 3 fucking pm. I'm flattered, but already have a date for Saturday. Plus that's pretty damn last minute tight, to be asking for a date.

Tell her let's meet Sunday instead. Plus I try to keep my promises, and promised a lady to meet Saturday. She agrees to Sunday, at 6pm, and a whole bunch of e-mails are exchanged. Then, late Saturday night, she e-mails and asks to change the time to 4pm. Flake meter is now activated and sending mental warning. But regardless, I agree to 4pm on Sunday.

At 2:30pm, Japanese chick emails me and says she can't make it because she will be working late. Wants to meet on the weekday instead. WTF??? She e-mailed to meet earlier, now is working late.

But what's really annoying is Japanese females calculate these cancels to destroy a guy's day. Instead of advanced warning, Many Japanese women love being inconsiderate assholes and canceling at the last minute.

Suppose I had refused or canceled other dates just to meet this woman? Easily, a guy's day could be ruined by a flaky game playing female.

Too many Japanese chicks, in my experience with them, run around guys like chickens with their head cut off. And I've seen the date site accounts of them to know this for sure. They can't make up their damn mind and have no honor or can't keep promises. Instead of 1 guy for 1 day, they are jumping between 3 and 4 guys for the same day. They get confused, lie, cancel at the last second, etc...

As a guy, the only way to protect yourself is to also make multiple dates for the same day, especially when younger Japanese women are involved. Luckly, was asked out by an older Japanese woman (35) to meet her at 7pm today.
 
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Well, you are doing amazingly well. Maybe you are going after the 40 plus female crowd, who tend to be a bit more stable.

Sorry but you must be doing something wrong since my age range is 25>39.
I very rarely go over 40.
Must be the kind of profiles you select. Maybe the ones with very little content?
I repeat : not a single time did a girl cancel or reschedule a date with me.
And, again, I've been doing this for years.
 
Sorry but you must be doing something wrong since my age range is 25>39.
I very rarely go over 40.
Must be the kind of profiles you select. Maybe the ones with very little content?
I repeat : not a single time did a girl cancel or reschedule a date with me.
And, again, I've been doing this for years.

Wow, that's amazing just from a mathematical and statistical standpoint. Even Japanese women that I've met directly and not online, can sometimes be flaky. Hell, even some of the Japanese women that I date, occasionally flake.

With Western women, I get flakes very rarely. Problem is with Japanese women for some reason.

How do you get 100% compliance with meeting dates that you set?
 
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How do you get 100% compliance with meeting dates that you set?

I don't know :)
Meetings are either after work near my/their workplace or during the weekends in an area that's close enough to where they live. Maybe it's the meeting point? And I never set two dates the same day BTW.
Also, girls I exchange mails with really want to meet me it seems.
Oh, and I meet only girls who contacted me first.
They seem to know what they want and behave accordingly.

Lastly, I don't want to brag or anything but in 90% of the cases, the girls want to see me again after the first date.
Which means that I match their prerequisites very often. First dates go very smoothly (and even flirteous) actually.
On a side note, the ones I got from Tinder were all disastrous ahaha.
Which lead me to think that a detailed profile on both sides is all you need to enjoy a first date with someone.

This saturday's date wants to see me again but I'm not interested.
The one before, she got touchy very quickly and mailed me that she wanted to become my GF ... but I passed.
The one before that, the girl (which just broke with her BF), brought me to her place the same day, cooked me something and was expecting me to stay until the next morning but I left the place before anything sexual happen. Not interested.

You might think I'm way too picky but I know what I'm looking for so ..... ;)

Anyway, that's it!
 
@majimekun

Interesting.

1) Are you Asian?

2) Definitely you have the advantage when women contact you first. Are you offering marriage?

I'm wondering if "Let's get married" attracts a certain type.

3) How do avoid getting picked by old, fat, ugly, and crazy women?

I tend not to like when Japanese women pick me, because then there are lots of old, fat, ugly, or crazy women.

I usually like to pick the women that I'm interested in. And unlike most, I do read their profile, and not just go by pictures.

4) How do you avoid women with pretty pictures, but badly written or excessively short profiles?

Many women on online sites have incomplete or badly written profiles, with the only thing good is their picture.

5) How do you deal with scheduling?

A major problem for me is the scheduling. Japanese women will often pick a day that is inconvenient, so we have to do some back and forth to get an agreeable day.

If they offer a day, and I have to refuse, they then tend to then be PUNITIVE. Like refuse my offered days in return or try to schedule 2 weeks later. And when dates are scheduled so far in advance, all kinds of scheduling changes happen for me or her and dates get canceled as a result.

And Japanese women tend to play around a lot about which day to meet. Western women tend to be- I can meet you Wednesday. If not that day, then Friday or Sunday. It's more understood that the goal is to meet. Where my experience with Japanese women is they are less committal about dates or they want control by you/the guy offering them days, so they can refuse or accept your days offered (versus the other way around).

6) When I let Japanese women pick the date location, the date tends to go badly or no sex.

If she says come to her house, that is the exception, and that is rare on a first date via online.

Usually Japanese pick locations that are "safe zones" that are nowhere near any hotels or their apartment, and where their co-workers and friends often come by. Such women then conduct business-like interviews on 1st dates, as if you were applying for a job with them.

Usually dates go better if the guy picks the location. However, I'm interested in your opinion about this?
 
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Just stumbled upon this interesting topic and I figure to share my experience with Jcupid as well.
This is a summary as I'm on the train now heading home. But feel free to ask specifics later.


1. I started Feb of this year. Tried Gold Membership but let it expire.

2. Viewed 200+ profiles over a six-month span. Not everyday though. When I'm bored at work or waiting in line.

3. Messaged about 100+ profiles which I expressed interest. ( Factors ranged from proficiency in English, Age, Profile content, what they were looking for and match criteria)

4. Only 27 Replied. (I still have them on my email history)

5. Then 15 Agreed to go on dates after some messaging back and forth (E-mail,LINE, Viber, Skype).

6. I went to all dates and got stood up by 2. Of those 13, 8 agreed on a 2nd date. The rest drifted away.

7. I still keep in touch with the 8 women. But only 5 of them I casually meet nowadays for a meal, hangout, shopping or sight-seeing.

8. Finally, 0nly 3 of them I am considering a serious relationship.But progress has been slow.


Some Misc Info:

Last 8 women - Youngest 23, Oldest - 35

Occupation:

Therapist
Clerk
Kuro-Neko Delivery
Hairdresser
Veterinarian
University Student
Forgot the last 2- I'll ask again

Marital Status - 6 Single, 2 Divorced
 
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@Max

Mathematically, that's about right and around what many guys could expect. 1 out of 3 responses. And 1 out 3 of those responding turning sexual.
 
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@Solong
Really? I thought my experience was an anomaly LOL. Surely there aren't guys out there who have worse luck than me?

In relation to the previous posts in this thread:

I have also received alot of interest from Fake Profiles. They're easy to spot. But boy was I gullible the first week! Hahah!

My own personal rule of thumb is: The shorter the profile and her match criteria set to "Any" - Proceed with Caution!
 
@Solong
Really? I thought my experience was an anomaly LOL. Surely there aren't guys out there who have worse luck than me?

In relation to the previous posts in this thread:

I have also received alot of interest from Fake Profiles. They're easy to spot. But boy was I gullible the first week! Hahah!

My own personal rule of thumb is: The shorter the profile and her match criteria set to "Any" - Proceed with Caution!
Now for WOMEN, it would be the exact opposite. Usually women are having a sausage fest. I've known women that had to disable their profiles as getting too many responses.

1) Women rarely need to or want to send e-mails first, as their inbox is flooded with guys.

Usually women only just respond. Which tends to make them very arrogant and egotistical after a while.

2) Many women don't handle being ignored or can't handle rejection well.

3) Many Women, to avoid e-mailing first or to HIDE who they are, will create MULTIPLE profiles.

So one profile they come off as virgin church girl for only marriage, other profile can be more sexual and for NSA/FWB, and yet another (with no picture) is for looking at everybody else's profiles.

Fake Profiles

And lots of sites produce mass quantities of fake profiles to fool male customers for money. Then there are the guys cat-fishing as women, and females creating fake profiles because they want to hide who they when they are, for searching, or for jokes.
 
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Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. Especially about the ratio of men to women.

Anyway, I don't use JCupid anymore. Got tired of it. I'm pretty content with my social circles for now.

On a completely unrelated topic: I've had more luck getting quality dates if the girl/woman was introduced by a common acquaintance.
So, folks take care of your co-workers and neighbors! (Luck of the draw!)
 
Thanks for the info. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. Especially about the ratio of men to women.

Anyway, I don't use JCupid anymore. Got tired of it. I'm pretty content with my social circles for now.

On a completely unrelated topic: I've had more luck getting quality dates if the girl/woman was introduced by a common acquaintance.
So, folks take care of your co-workers and neighbors! (Luck of the draw!)
Social circles are more powerful than online dating or pickup, IF the right people vouch for you. That's the trick, got to have the right people hyping you up to women, or be popular among the group. And on flip, people can make or destroy your reputation.

A trick with social circles is to have a wing man or wing woman HYPE you up on purpose. They have to be good at it though and believable, which is hard to find. Then you can even crash into other people's circles and pull women. The ultimate is a bi-sexual female wing.
 
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1) Are you Asian?

I'm caucasian, white skin, auburn hair.

Are you offering marriage?

Only after 4 years living together ... so, not a free pass for a marriage.
Plus no future kids as an unconditional condition.

3) How do avoid getting picked by old, fat, ugly, and crazy women?
I tend not to like when Japanese women pick me, because then there are lots of old, fat, ugly, or crazy women.
I usually like to pick the women that I'm interested in. And unlike most, I do read their profile, and not just go by pictures.

Well, compared to a couple of years ago, I also get the freaks now but I just ignore them.
Nothing difficult at all.

4) How do you avoid women with pretty pictures, but badly written or excessively short profiles?

I ignore them too.

5) How do you deal with scheduling?.... they want control by you/the guy offering them days, so they can refuse or accept your days offered (versus the other way around).

Oh my ... ;) ... you seem to have some kind of confrontational attitude with women :)
Personally, I just let them choose the date/time mostly after their work.
They can't possibly reschedule since they are supposed to have chosen the most convenient date/time in the first place.
And, interestingly, I never had a case of overtime work ... I don't know how they can achieve that in Japan ahaha

6) When I let Japanese women pick the date location, the date tends to go badly or no sex.

That's the biggest difference betwen you and me : I don't expect sex on the first date.
And I wouldn't want to even try. (well it happened only once in my life but it was a very special case)

If she says come to her house, that is the exception, and that is rare on a first date via online.

This one broke up several times with the same BF and I knew from the very first encounter that she simply tried to find a way to break bonds with him. I avoid these girls of course. As a matter of fact, she later mailed me that she went back to her BF again.

Usually dates go better if the guy picks the location. However, I'm interested in your opinion about this?

My opinion is that it doesn't change anything.

What's important is the very first impression you give (the first 5 or 10 seconds) when she discovers you at the meeting point. A large and genuine smile usually does the trick. Trying to be too cool doesn't work for me.
For example, at the restaurant, being nice and quite open with the clerk does wonders I think.

BTW, another reason why I prefer dating sites :
yesterday, during a sport event, I met a cute girl aged 25 from Hong-Kong and the chemistry between us was just great.
She already talked about visiting places together although we were total strangers a couple of hours before.
She even let me touch her and stuff ...
Then she asks my age.
Since I'm honest I replied : "42 years old".
And then she went : "oh my gaaawwwd!!!"
And I felt everything was over ahaha

At least girls don't have this kind of surprise with dating sites.
Which is the reason why I don't believe in the benefit of social circles.
 
A trick with social circles is to have a wing man or wing woman HYPE you up on purpose. They have to be good at it though and believable, which is hard to find. Then you can even crash into other people's circles and pull women. The ultimate is a bi-sexual female wing.

The problem is that since hyping others is a cultural thing in Japan, girls are totally prepared to it and don't let themselves fooled that easily. They are not that stupid :)
 
@majimekun

Thanks for answering.

Scheduling is tricky for me. As the day and time a woman might want can be very bad for me, as I may have other dates or commitments.

Japanese women make it so difficult, because they don't understand the concept of offering alternative days. It's like X day, take it or leave it. I don't know why Western women are so much better at keeping promises for dates.

And the days that Japanese women give you can be complete bullshit. 2 recent cases as examples.


1) Met Japanese woman at a coffee shop. Great conversation and follow up e-mail exchanges for several days. We agreed to meet this Tuesday evening.

E-mail chick to confirm location and time, no response. Basically, Japanese chick told bold face lie and then scurries away like a rat.

And this 2 face routine happens a lot with Japanese women. Say one thing in your face, do the opposite behind your back or when you are not looking directly at them.

Western women that I have dated don't do this. They tell you up front that they don't like you or they have enough honor to keep to a promised date.

2) Met Japanese chick (34) from online this past Friday.

I had double dates that same day (committed to meet another woman at 9pm), and this one said she could only meet for a short while (only 2 hr date), so I didn't try to sexually escalate. By the way, I don't try to homerun every date (and later date was guaranteed sex) and slow down when dealing with older chicks, because they tend to be more set in their ways and thinking anyway.

Anyway, the earlier Friday date commits to us meeting again this upcoming Thursday. But what does she do? Get an e-mail from her Monday morning saying she will have to cancel our Thursday date.

Again, Japanese women are good for breaking promises and scrambling up schedules. It's like they are in this constant state of indecisiveness, short of you throwing money at them and prostitution.
 
Scheduling is tricky for me. As the day and time a woman might want can be very bad for me, as I may have other dates or commitments.

Because you're chasing too many rabbits at the same time.
I don't have this problem at all.

Japanese women make it so difficult, because they don't understand the concept of offering alternative days. It's like X day, take it or leave it. I don't know why Western women are so much better at keeping promises for dates.

The difference is that the Japanese are VERY busy.
They are way too busy to possibly offer an alternative date. They don't have other slots available most of the time.
You simply have to deal with it :)

And this 2 face routine happens a lot with Japanese women. Say one thing in your face, do the opposite behind your back or when you are not looking directly at them.

Well, if the dates are only for sexual purpose, you're just a walking sex toy for them so what do you expect really?
In my case, they want a serious relationship so they would do almost anything to get that.

Anyway, the earlier Friday date commits to us meeting again this upcoming Thursday. But what does she do? Get an e-mail from her Monday morning saying she will have to cancel our Thursday date.

It might be related to work.
People in Japan are tied to their job and work related duties take precedence over private fun.
I have friends (men and women) and for example one had to work every week-ends during the last two months (so not a single day off!), the other one is back home after midnight almost everyday.

From what I understand, you have difficulties adapting to the japanese culture.
Your expectations quite don't fit with the local way of thinking :)
 
1) "Because you're chasing too many rabbits at the same time.
I don't have this problem at all."

Reply- Nah, not chasing too many. Only chase as many as my schedule allows and as suits my taste.

Also, there isn't a problem if people are honest and keep promises.

And women juggle guys, more than guys admit to (ego) or know of. I can tell you some stories about married chicks that can make guys hair fall out.

2) "The difference is that the Japanese are VERY busy.

They are way too busy to possibly offer an alternative date. They don't have other slots available most of the time.
You simply have to deal with it :)"

Reply- That Japanese are busier than everybody else is one of the biggest lies ever sold. It's called TIME MANAGEMENT.

You have to eat, sleep, shower, etc... Nobody is working 24/7 except robots at the factory.

There is ALWAYS an alternate time slot. It's a matter of WHO is the guy and WHAT activity is occupying that time slot ;-)

And when you breakdown what these so-called busy Japanese are doing, you often see that a lot is quasi frivolous. I will go to the musuem on that day, meeting my girlfriends on this day, going jogging on the other day. It's fillers where they could possibly make time for a person, it just depends.


3) "Well, if the dates are only for sexual purpose, you're just a walking sex toy for them so what do you expect really?
In my case, they want a serious relationship so they would do almost anything to get that."

Reply- I have serious relationships and have lived with Japanese women for months/years (in different relationships).

And, contrary to old fashioned beliefs, women enter relationships for sex too. Women are not trying to marry every man that they meet nor do they.

If not sex, you occupy that time with some type of activity. Considering that Japan has an abnormally LOW sex frequency per week in comparison to other countries, sex should be considered.


4) "It might be related to work.
People in Japan are tied to their job and work related duties take precedence over private fun.

I have friends (men and women) and for example one had to work every week-ends during the last two months (so not a single day off!), the other one is back home after midnight almost everyday."

Reply- I WORK with and manage Japanese personnel. I'm aware of what many are really doing. Often they give the appearance of work and are purposely inefficient. They stay at work due to group pressure, not because there is so much work, or they have no personal/social life. Work is their social life, no life outside of work, which is sad.

5) "From what I understand, you have difficulties adapting to the japanese culture.

Your expectations quite don't fit with the local way of thinking :)"

Reply- OK, now that just went off the tracks. I've been in Japan for quite a while. I'm quite well adapted to living here.

I've also adapted to all the lying, sneakiness, and tricks that too many Japanese women play. My complaint is more about how unnecessary the games are, and being forced to do COUNTER-measures.

I can setup 2 dates for 1 day, because too many Japanese women are flaky or can't keep a promise. But the question remains, why not keep promises and not be sneaky?

And I don't mind to keep 3 or 4 women on rotation, if they are too "busy" to have a life outside of work or can't get away from their girl group (group pressure) I'm just willing to question the reasons behind what people do.
 
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The problem is that since hyping others is a cultural thing in Japan, girls are totally prepared to it and don't let themselves fooled that easily. They are not that stupid :)

The hyping wing-man/woman has to be good and believable, or the guy is popular for some reason within the group. Sports, looks, jokes, money...

Women tend to chase after who they THINK are the most popular guys. And this is ESPECIALLY effective with Japanese women, due to the "herd behavior" and strong social heiarchy here.

Women can easily be TRICKED if the wing-man/woman is a believable actor/actress. The problem is when the wing-man/woman doesn't like what they are doing, doesn't actually like the guy they are helping, or they are JEALOUS/SELFISH and want the girl for themself.

And if OTHER women want you, that often makes a woman want you. This is a phenomenon seen in many females across numerous animal species. It's very well known in biology. Females can be NOT so smart, and just follow the herd, trend, and what's popular.

If women THINK x guy is popular with women, they can be all over him. I've seen it over, over, and over again.

I've been with hot girlfriends and literally had Japanese women bumping into me and giving me their LINE contacts when my girl is in the bathroom. When with bi-sexual girlfriends (looking for a new one by the way), it can be TURKEY shoot easy to take Japanese women home. A lot of guys have no idea how bi-curious many women are. If a woman is willing to share you, and she leads women to you, many women will have sex with you based on HER pulling them towards you.

The limiting factor being my bi girlfriends' feelings/jealousy about it, NOT if they could do it. And it doesn't have to be a bi-girlfriend. Just a really sexually open-minded female friend that truly wants you to get laid, and is truly helpful. If she gives you a "stamp of approval" so will many other women automatically do so.

Pulling women through social pressure/circles is WAY more powerful than online dating or stranger pickups.
 
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Man, this has been a funny thread to read.

Solong, you really NEED to get the last word, don't you?

It seems clear that your PUA garbage leads to the trouble and flakiness you experience---despite your musings, women aren't all that stupid, and can smell your shit a mile away.

Thanks for the laughs though!