Asking Out Working Girls

My experience is you can usually squeeze one (and only one) date out of hostesses and working girls for exactly the reasons Scotty mentioned. They want you to come back. One time I got a good feel up and an epic make out session with this gorgeous Chinese hostess in a bar in Roppo, but that was as far as it went. Mostly because we got shit faced playing Chinese dice games with her friends. lol But her friend paid for everything, including four bottles of Jack at our table, so hey, all good.

Side note: I once lived with an elite Ginza hostess for 9 months who became a good friend of mine. The stories she told were pretty amazing.

The only reason I would meet a call girl outside of an agency arranged appointment would be for a casual night out that would end in sex. I would never be serious about a relationship with such a girl. Nothing against call girls, I just simply wouldn't want to permanently own a car that's been driven by hundreds and possibly thousands of reckless drivers. Just my thoughts on it.

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Recurring cash arrangement indeed. I wonder if these girls are just all screwed up or what. Most of them are so young. 20's etc. I also wonder what happens to them at 30s or 40s. Do any of these girls get real jobs and lives?
Admittedly though I would probably never wive any of them as other than being a GF and bed fun they would probably suck at life in general

TheDutchElm - That's awesome living with an elite hostess. Did you ever try to get some? Would love to hear any of those stories, how were they amazing? Cash-wise?

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Go to a snack bar and you'll see exactly where they end up.

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TheDutchElm - That's awesome living with an elite hostess. Did you ever try to get some? Would love to hear any of those stories, how were they amazing? Cash-wise?

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She wasn't really my type and I honestly enjoyed her company (absolutely hilarious) more than any prospect of banging her, so it worked out. I'd just separated from my wife as well and was up to my neck in pussy (my roommate used to give me the thumbs up when I brought a girl home), so it was better home politics not to throw that wrench in the works. And to top that off, her boyfriend was some knuckle-dragging thug in the yakuza, so I wasn't about to push it.

Most of the stories I found interesting were what it's like to be a hostess seen from her angle. Their pay is pretty shit, even at the high end. The club takes almost all of it. Smart hostesses at that level make their money selling gifts customers give them. If you're looking to buy a shiny toy for a girl, you can find tons of unused discounted brand stuff in resale shops in Shinjuku and Roppongi. They're all cast-offs from hostesses.

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1) Would have tried to take her to a swinger club.

But that's just my style though
;-)

2) Dated several hostesses, but never pulled them from bar. Met them outside, at clubs or coffee shops.

Pulling a hostess from a bar in Japan is tough. Mostly just traps to get you to keep coming.

3) I know it's very possible with some Deai/Date Cafe women.

A lot of women there are college and office ladies that do P4P on the side. Since P4P isn't there main job or goal in life, they are way more flexible.

They are also more likely to exchange contacts with you. Even if they don't date you on a personal level, they are more likely to let you become a regular and give you more options with time and place.

Have taken deai/date cafe women to swinger clubs. However, was a bit tough. Was equal to taking regluar women that you would meet from the street or online dating.

However, what was great, was no time limit and all nighters.

4) Met and dated several strippers this way too.

The tactic was the same. Interact with them on a personal and caring level, and as if you are already a boyfriend or have known them for a while. Show concern and interest of them on a personal level. Be very confident, like a boss.

Usually works best if you DO NOT act like a customer or the typical customer they see. Do NOT beg, act creepy, or too pushy.

Looks OR fashion style will greatly aid you as well, in addition to how you talk and behave.

Often good to NOT meet her again at the strip bar, but get her to meet you at a club or place OUTSIDE. If she tells you to only meet her at the strip bar, then you are ONLY a customer.

Once you already have sex with her outside the strip bar, then it's kind of safe to come to her strip bar occasionally, just to see her dance. Some liked to be watched and perform for their boyfriends.

Oh, and strippers are outrageously fantastic for swinger clubs and parties, if you can get them to go out with you.

ohFFS said:

The only reason I would meet a call girl outside of an agency arranged appointment would be for a casual night out that would end in sex. I would never be serious about a relationship with such a girl. Nothing against call girls, I just simply wouldn't want to permanently own a car that's been driven by hundreds and possibly thousands of reckless drivers. Just my thoughts on it.

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This is tricky and you can't make a blanket statement on P4P women. My beliefs on why:

1) Lots of regular and NON-P4P women have some seriously high numbers.

As a swinger, have seen what people think are average Janes and housewives do 12 guys in a night. No telling what their number is for the year or over the years. Can ALSO be hundreds to thousands over the years.

You the guy, can have no idea what she has done or even what she is presently doing (behind your back).

2) Many women lie, and lie a lot.

She can tell you she is a virgin or near-virgin, but can take a fist anally. Maybe she was a call girl or PART timer for 5 years or when in high school and college, prior to meeting you.

Again, can be extremely hard for a guy to know.

3) P4P takes many forms.

A) Strippers (w/ backroom HJ and BJ)
B) Porn video star
C) Hostess w/ sugardaddies
D) Part time escort
E) Sugarbaby
F) Massage with benefit HJ and BJ

What is or isn't acceptable? Provided she even told you. I noticed that guys will sometimes get all upset by one form of P4P, but not others.

4) Have her take an STD TEST

P4P or NON-P4P, I would be way more concerned about diseases that she might have. Irregardless of any stories that she is telling. The TESTs won't lie.

Then after she is tested, it can be more about how she behaves and shows loyalty, versus merely her "work" or sexual history.

hookers and hostesses, in my opinoin, are easy to date. you have a captive audience to work on while you are in bed with them, or drinking with them. if done right they will ask you out, and not for money or work purposes, but for their pleasure. almost certainly they are better fux than the average woman.

If escorts are good at nothing but fucking then why are some guys so keen to spend time with us for free and why do they get so upset if they not get to do it?

Serena Vincente said:

If escorts are good at nothing but fucking then why are some guys so keen to spend time with us for free and why do they get so upset if they not get to do it?

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The good ones ARE good at more than fucking. Those clients enjoy your company and want to believe you like them/hang out with them/fuck them for more than their money. IMO, unless an escort actually *offers* to hang out with you off the clock, it seems pretty gauche for a client to suggest this and then get upset about not getting free time.

TheDutchElm said:

IMO, unless an escort actually *offers* to hang out with you off the clock, it seems pretty gauche for a client to suggest this and then get upset about not getting free time.

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I've done this successfully in the past by not asking for sexual favors during anything extracurricular. It's like asking a doctor outside office hours for a free examination...

John Chavers said:

I've done this successfully in the past by not asking for sexual favors during anything extracurricular. It's like asking a doctor outside office hours for a free examination...

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Yes, by all means people: ask away! It's the getting upset part that's ridiculous. You're basically asking her out on a date, so expect a similar or lower hit rate.

TheDutchElm said:

Yes, by all means people: ask away! It's the getting upset part that's ridiculous. You're basically asking her out on a date, so expect a similar or lower hit rate.

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True, worst that would happen is she says "no".. Well, she *could* LAUGH at you, but that's unlikely.. :-P

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Recurring cash arrangement indeed. I wonder if these girls are just all screwed up or what. Most of them are so young. 20's etc. I also wonder what happens to them at 30s or 40s. Do any of these girls get real jobs and lives?
Admittedly though I would probably never wive any of them as other than being a GF and bed fun they would probably suck at life in general

TheDutchElm - That's awesome living with an elite hostess. Did you ever try to get some? Would love to hear any of those stories, how were they amazing? Cash-wise?

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Gross, how dare you talk about other people like that!
All those girls are much better people than you. And who would marry someone who cant respect others anyway?
I strongly hope no girl goes out with you or i almost hope they'll do and scam you somehow!

If things work out as planned i will be more rich than you could dream of!

TheDutchElm said:

My experience is you can usually squeeze one (and only one) date out of hostesses and working girls for exactly the reasons Scotty mentioned. They want you to come back. One time I got a good feel up and an epic make out session with this gorgeous Chinese hostess in a bar in Roppo, but that was as far as it went. Mostly because we got shit faced playing Chinese dice games with her friends. lol But her friend paid for everything, including four bottles of Jack at our table, so hey, all good.

Side note: I once lived with an elite Ginza hostess for 9 months who became a good friend of mine. The stories she told were pretty amazing.

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Please don't leave us hanging. Tell us some of these stories.