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Personally I think there is a difference between a 15 - 30 min M&G at a cafe vs a full meal M&G. I prefer the later and offer 10 for a decent length meal and conversation.

As I’m traveling at the moment I get the SB to book the restaurant. And they have not failed me. I’m happy to pay 10 for good company and good food.

of the 3 this week, I wound up in bed with 2 on the first night.

But I also just crashed and burned with a non SB girl tonite.
I dissagree a little. On the 2 that you converted that night, did the 10,000 yen reduce the amount you ended up paying for the sex after ?
The entire point to me of a M&G is to see if the girl matches the photos can talk well enough and turns me on etc. In all honesty I can usualy get all of this infromation in 5 min. but to reach his own.
On a side note if you able to combine both the dinner date and sex after at a reduced price than it might be worth it perhaps.
In my experience after having a large meal and drinks, most sugar babies are going to defualt to starfish sex.
Best sex preformance I have noticed from girls SB's or not is usually on a half empty stomach and 2 drinks later just my 2 cents
 
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I dissagree a little. On the 2 that you converted that night did the 10,000 yen count towards the bedroom for after ? The entire point to me of a M&G is to see if the girl matches the photos can talk well enough and turns me on etc. In all honesty I can usualy get all of this infromation in 5 min. but to reach his own.
On a side note if you able to subtract the dinner date fee from the bedroom cost than it is worth it.
I agree with all except Dinner. I have no problem paying for dinner.........maybe I'm just a soft touch/old school but I like doing that.
 
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I agree with all except Dinner. I have no problem paying for dinner.........maybe I'm just a soft touch/old school but I like doing that.
Yes, it would be weird to ask the love hotel receptionist to deduct the dinner price from the room’s rate. Its a rather unusual request imho :D
 
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I agree with all except Dinner. I have no problem paying for dinner.........maybe I'm just a soft touch/old school but I like doing that.
Of course pay for dinner but we are talking about paying the girl 10,000 yen PLUS the cost of dinner!
 
Yes, it would be weird to ask the love hotel receptionist to deduct the dinner price from the room’s rate. Its a rather unusual request imho :D
Are you trolling me LOL I agree I am sure the hotel receptionist is going to have a hard time calcuating that lmao
 
Of course pay for dinner but we are talking about paying the girl 10,000 yen PLUS the cost of dinner!
That's the slight difference between the other poster and myself. If it's a M&G from me there's no 10,000 from me. Everyone is different and has their ways.
 
Are you trolling me LOL I agree I am sure the hotel receptionist is going to have a hard time calcuating that lmao
hahaha, yeah, there's a lot of yuk yuk's on here. You need to weed out the good info from well.......
 
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Are you trolling me LOL I agree I am sure the hotel receptionist is going to have a hard time calcuating that lmao
Sorry, no I know what you meant . It was just expressed in a funny way
 
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Agreeded I need to word things better.
Yeah bud, if you leave that door open even with the slightest crack in it.......hahaha
 
That's the slight difference between the other poster and myself. If it's a M&G from me there's no 10,000 from me. Everyone is different and has their ways.
Yeah the SB must be thinking wow if he pays me 10,000 to have dinner with me he should pay 80,000 at least for sex
 
Yeah the SB must be thinking wow if he pays me 10,000 to have dinner with me he should pay 80,000 at least for sex
Good possibility. Then again, there's some guys who feel that money doesn't matter. they'll more than likely pull any girl they want as that's always been the way of the world. I know a guy that drops 50,000 on a M&G. Needless to say, he gets a lot of girls.....
 
As you guys say, each to his own.

@Zutto to answer your question above.

If I have a good dinner and conversation I’m happy to pay for dinner and give her 10.
However if she seems to be greedy and doing the minimum , then I’ll be peeved but I’ll still pay. But they are losing in the long run. Good SB should be looking at the big picture. Cutting loses for 10 is ok by me.

Also if they do the full package I give 50 which includes the dinner. So 40+10 if you like.

Also like the comments above about alcohol etc. Spot on. The girl from Friday is back today from 3pm. The prob on Friday was on my part, so we agreed to get the dessert out of the way before the meal.
 
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Should be expected as pretty much everyone here is searching for the perfect crack.
But it's the distractions that make it impossible sometimes............ it's tiring to weed through all the plays on words that seem to never stop and valuable info gets slipped through......opps.......here it comes.........through the cracks
 
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I’m a few days late to this but love the fact that I now have so many “cousins” in Japan!

BTW just to add my data points on M &Gs, I do give a little something even for just a pure M&G, as long as its more substantial than 15 minutes, and let potentials know that without giving an exact number. I used to make it a point never to meet anyone asking for 10K specifically (although that’s usually what I give since I rarely have change). I adjusted that a little - I only meet girls who specifically ask for 10K for an M&G if they are willing to commit to more the second meeting and we can come to an agreement on the amount during the message stage.

BTW I find there is no correlation between how much you pay (how much a girl asks for) and how much enjoyment you’ll get. (Probably the opposite actually.) ***Edited to add, up to a point. But I’ve never felt satisfied any time I gave 60 or more. So now I focus on 30-40, and occasionally 50.
 
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I’m a few days late to this but love the fact that I now have so many “cousins” in Japan!

BTW just to add my data points on M &Gs, I do give a little something even for just a pure M&G, as long as its more substantial than 15 minutes, and let potentials know that without giving an exact number. I used to make it a point never to meet anyone asking for 10K specifically (although that’s usually what I give since I rarely have change). I adjusted that a little - I only meet girls who specifically ask for 10K for an M&G if they are willing to commit to more the second meeting and we can come to an agreement on the amount during the message stage.

BTW I find there is no correlation between how much you pay (how much a girl asks for) and how much enjoyment you’ll get. (Probably the opposite actually.) ***Edited to add, up to a point. But I’ve never felt satisfied any time I gave 60 or more. So now I focus on 30-40, and occasionally 50.
I assume you are refering to 30,000 to 40,000 yen for bedroom fun and occasionally 50,000 correct?
If that is the case that is right in line with what I am paying 1 college girl at 35k, 2 others mid 20's at 40k.
Like I mentioned earlier 60k + should be AV star or actress level money imo.
 
I assume you are refering to 30,000 to 40,000 yen for bedroom fun and occasionally 50,000 correct?
If that is the case that is right in line with what I am paying 1 college girl at 35k, 2 others mid 20's at 40k.
Like I mentioned earlier 60k + should be AV star or actress level money imo.

Exactly right. (I left out that I have a main girl whom I pay 100K on a monthly basis but meet every week, sometimes more, so it turns out to be about 20K per time - but my relationship with her is a bit more involved so isn’t a great data point.)

Perhaps it’s a combination of the fact that I don’t have either 本人証明 or 年収証明, or a picture (and have two 通報’s) but I do get turned down quite a bit for 30-40k. I’m willing to go to 50k for someone attractive, but I don’t feel the need almost ever anymore. I have in the past gone even higher for extremely attractive people, but none of those have been satisfying at all beyond looks, so never again for me.
 
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@Zutto good info my friend.

IMHO it is often better if you set the price.
I have a standard of 50,000 for a date that includes dinner and hotel time.
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I might be jumping in late, but my experience is do NOT ever set the hard # over the initial message exchanges. You don't know what is in store, both good and bad. Always set a min to max range based on "AGREED" expectations. Sugar dating is a business transaction. Let me say that again, it is a business transaction. Some if not most sugaring girls acknowledge this and will abide by its rules.

Sugaring is not Nampa or something dumb, you can call out the girl if she doesn't perform but as a SD, you need to set the expectations very clearly and detailed. That is your role. If you want to see her piss and shit, then say that. If you want to wear a halloween costume as Freddy Krugar, then say that but be very clear and you will almost always get what you want.

The reason I say this is you can come out with a really good girl for what you may think is cheap, against your expectations (aka what I call rules). Conversely, if you stick to your rule boundaries, you will almost never get burnt and walk away with something of value. If you play the game in a clever manner, you will have 1-2 extra buddies waiting 30 & 60 minute intervals around the same station (NEVER the same station) and can give a quick "dotta-kyan" excuse if it goes well with plan A. Not sure if that made sense, but play to your own financial/time/expectation boundaries and you will always have a good time. (PS. Daytimes are harder pulls for this type of maneuver, but can be done with different site tactics, but maybe that is too much brain power for this thread.)
** Yes, on sugardaddy.jp you might get some bad karma but if you have a decent profile with decent looking pics, you will always come out on top.

Ps. Some of the most amazing sugar pulls I have done here in Japan is having girls from outside of Tokyo (Shizuoka, Kyushu, Osaka, Okinawa, Hokkaido, etc.) come in for a sugar visit. You pay the plane/Shinkansen and you get exponentially better service, superior attitude and fun than the tokyo-sugar-ite. Sorry to those Tokyo SBs but quoting Trumpets, "it is what is IS!". This works with non-Japanese too, Filipinas and Brazilians are even more amazing than a super workout. $exercise.

The "thank you" feeling plays a HUGE factor in you bringing her to the big city. Put her up in a decent hotel, do your deed and buy her some nice gifts and take her around, hopefully in your nice luxury car and she is YOURS. Try it and see.

Play well, be healthy and safe and see you out on the serengeti.jp!
 
I assume Shammy was refering to the language usage.
If I guy openly calls women bitches and sluts rather they are or not is not the point just my 2 cents

Thanks Zutto for clarifying that.

Look, we don't need to go down the Trumpets vs Bidet path here. Guys, Gals, team, have a good time.

Respect women, they are the future of our children. Just go out and have fun and stop spending so much time wanting to find a hot anime girl on this site.

** I would abstain from the nampa groups here because, well, that is poor form and even if it gets you in to the tuna tunnel, well it could be poisoned. :)

Play safe friends.
 
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Btw, the standard rate for getting sex with a SD.jp sugar baby young college girl is around 50,000 JPY. If you provide the fun date, like a nice luxury ride into Yokohama, then it is balanced. Balanced means consideration for your time/highway tolls gas.

This is negotiable, but not much downward. That is cryptic and that is how my stock trader deals with me, so sorry! This IS NEGOTIABLE upward on the sukebe level, so play it as such.

Ps. I thought the girls were at 30k-40K for sex dates. (Not initial dates....). Evidently, it is for 2nd dates if she likes you. Haha.
 
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年収証明, .

Team! You do NOT need this to have fun on sugardaddy.jp. if the girl asks you for this, block her.

I contacted the owners of sugardaddy.jp and they told me that the whole point of that site is for us to have fun. Set the expectations and if you get good pu$$y, then bonus.

Do as such and enjoy life my brothers/sisters(?).