Sexually Transmitted Disease (std) Talk

Thankfully Happy Berry displays at their counter their certified health inspection certificate. It is the only place I have noticed that does this. Maybe others do, but I just don't notice it.
 
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My understanding is that most of the legit places, have the ladies checked. I know just to get a massage business license it is really strict. So I would imagine for DH it is similar. I would think to get along with the police, they would be doing whatever they can to grease the wheels and make things go smoothly. Probably unofficially, but knowing how clean and efficient Japan is, I am not surprised. But that is nice to know. That said, since my doctor told me not to, I don`t do sumata uncovered.
I really don`t think you can get HIV from that, but I feel sumata poses a great risk for syphilis and would rather be inside her than rubbing around on the outside. Though I suppose a syphilis nodule could be inside as well as outside.
We takes our chances either way.
 
Hugh Hefner said it best and generally speaking you should have sex with people that are disease free.
 
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I dont read the other 5 pages of this topic so sorry if I duplic8 stuff

I have had chlamydia 1ce from a BBBJ in Cambodia n 1ce from the ONLY time I ever had unprotected sex with a ho、 it was in Thailand

In Japan I have had 2 many BBBJ at pinkies to count but not never copped a nasty. I think this is bcoz the therapists alwayz brush their teeth and gargle after each gig

B careful tho of a place called Ichigo in north Tokyo on the Yamanote Line it only cost 2000 but is like a factory production line the girls go from customer to customer without taking a break. I heard of a gaijin who copped chlamydia AND gonoreah on da same nite. Chlamydia is ezy 2 zap with antibiotix but the l8st strain of gono is scary it alredy bcum resistant to all but 1 antibiotik
 
Not that you shouldn`t do your best to stay safe. You certainly should! But I think there has only been one case in Japan, so far, of the antibiotic resistant gonoreah. The lady in Kyoto who got it, was eventually cured if you read the article about her ordeal. It took a bit of work, but she tested negative for gono at the end. But yes being covered is a great idea for BJ and otherwise.
 
I guess this is not exactly an std question and here would probably be appropriate. Are the girls here familiar with pearly penile papules? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirsuties_coronae_glandis) NSFW! I have them and I don't want the girls to freak out. I have read that it's quite a common occurrence, but since information on the internet can be misleading so I just want to sure.
 
  • This is an interesting topic. Condom isn't perfect, but if you use it correctly, condoms are the best way to prevent STD such as HIV. They have a very low failure rate and are effective for all forms of sex, including oral and anal sex. After I was educated, I have been very careful about it. I would rather use condoms for all forms of sex, including oral and anal sex. That's why I have been into stores (erotic massage, fetish femdom, and japanese escort girls club) provide hand release or CBJ. Intercourse sex with condom is fine, too, as long as the environment is clean. Even if they can develop a protective vaccine for HIV, we shouldn't take and run the risk of passing on HIV. Other STD are same. I believe the gods help them that help themselves.
 
Hugh Hefner said it best and generally speaking you should have sex with people that are disease free.
You can't catch anything, when you and her have nothing.

Would you knowingly and repeatedly have "condom use" sex with a woman that has HIV or an STD?

Mathematically, the more you have sex with an infected woman and even if using a condom, the more likely you are to catch what she has.

What's safer than condoms is going to get tested and being in honest committed relationships.

It has to always be remembered that condoms are not foolproof and that "safe sex" means a very careful and limited style of sex.
 
Agreed, it's a mystery to me too. Most of the Korean delivery shops I have spoken with, which includes several not listed in my report, say they don't offer bareback.

well done for pointing it out sir
since apparently some of the korean girls r uni students so they dnt wanna risk it
dnt blame them thou!
 
"safe sex" means a very careful and limited style of sex.

"Safe sex" means "no sex". Period. Once you engage into any sexula acivity, there are some risks of catching something form a cold, to herpes and worst. And this even using condoms with a regular, "supposedly" faithful partner.
Beyond this bold statement, it is obvious that there is a scale of risks from very low to very high, and we all know what those are. We then act accordingly to our respective risk-benefit analysis, which is very different according to each individual's situations.
I would never comment or judge anybody, customer or provider, who decides to go one way or the other.
 
I would never comment or judge anybody, customer or provider, who decides to go one way or the other.

Boy this thread is a dredge-up. I think the objection to this attitude is that YOU are not the only one affected when you choose to engage in riskier practices. When you and your partner choose to engage in high-risk sex, you put each other in peril as well as everyone you fuck after the fact: you are a risk to the public as well as yourself. That's not ok. The "I won't judge one way or the other" pretends that everything is a matter of personal choice free from moral peril because, hey, risk is a thing. The problem is, not all risks are equal. Choosing to engage in sexual activity of course raises risks, but the residual risk is nowhere near the magnitude of risk mitigated by using protection in a high risk environment.
 
As long as each individual is aware, and able to judge, that is to say not "vulnerable" whatever that means, I don't agree with your lecture.
Where do you put the "red line"? Is BBBJ a risk that you think is acceptable while FS is not? And Pussy licking? Well, any of those activity can lead to STDs and therefore transmission of the same. I repeat, the only safe sex, is no sex. Beyond that, it is everyone's assessment of the risks which directs behavior. And this assessment is different with every one. You may "judge" that BBFS is highly crticizble, and that BBBJ is not. Other may judge that even BBBJ is highly criticzable. And others will say that any sex with somebody else than your presumed "faithful partner" is unacceptable. And I say that I don't judge anyne withut knowledge of their particluar circumstances. For your info, there are hundreds of clubs in Germany which are officially "no condoms". Thousand of men and women engage in vast AO (Alles ohne) gangbangs every day in Germany. Should they all be put in jail? The point is that there is no more STds within this population than the "ordinary" mongering/prostitutes ones. I have never gone BBFS in ny mongering life, but have occasionnally picked up some infection, most probably from BBBJ, and even once in Japan.
Anyway, let this debate rest for a while. I respect your views,of course, but I don't necessarily shat=re them..
Cheers
 
I said nothing about putting anyone in jail. But they sure are taking a damn big risk for themselves (which I have no objections to) and other people (which I do have an objection to).

Your argument is basically a fallacy of the excluded middle. Once again, nobody is saying people don't have a right to assess their own risks; just that there is a spectrum of assessments which result in safer behavior than others- and that's not nothing because other people are affected by that person's decisions. Nobody said anything about using condoms making sex perfectly safe.

If you think safer sex practices are just a matter of opinion and preference, you need to look into the HIV epidemic in the 1980's and 1990's among gay men. There are people alive today (because they were lucky) all of whose friends from that time are now dead. People are going to have sex. Their choice to do so does not make their decisions after that point inconsequential or just a matter of opinion.
 
I got a dose from Hitomi at Genki Lovers in Nippori. My own fault. It was the third play of the session and she'd run out of condoms and she offered bareback and said she was clean. Dumb of me I know. I've read reports elsewhere of Hitomi infecting others with an STD. She is apparently infamous for BBFS. And yes, while one should always wear a condom, but there was a report by a senior member over on the International Sex Guide of Hitomi riding him Cowgirl and--unbidden by the guy--suddenly lift off, pull off the rubber, and reinsert his cock, and then contue riding him til he came inside her. And Hitomi isn't the only risk there. Someone on the same site said they got an STD from Haru--and that was with protection. So best to avoid Genki Lovers like the plague. I always bring my own condoms with me now.
 
Those of you who have been burned- is that mainly at lower cost places? I know AKB mentioned Cambodia and Thailand. That's off my radar though. Wild rover mentioned Genki Lovers, which is a soapland isn't it?

Obviously you can never be fully safe, but from a statistical point of view, it seems as though it is significantly more " dangerous" going to a place like that versus a " standard" escort service like AM or especially an upscale like kitty/Kansai Sayiri, etc.

It seems that way to me, but I'm no expert.
 
Just to tell a story as I can't sleep atm:

When I was in Malawi there was a guy in our company who would hit on female patients at the clinic we were guarding. No lie. Women would come in to get themselves and their children tested for HIV, or to get medication, and this guy was trying to get with them.

There was one incident where he was bragging to me about going raw with the neighboring women around the area. Keep in mind that the hospital had children dying of AIDS related illnesses daily. Of course, the doctors laughed at us for being scared of blood/waste etc. Because they thought it was absurd us getting it and carrying around weapons yet being scared of disease. But this guy was having unprotected sex with MULTIPLE women who had full blown aids and other diseases like cholera.

This dude had a wife at home. He'd also show up late to formation daily or he'd be high on weed. Crazy that he made it through active duty (you had to to get hired by this company). I wonder if he brought HIV back to his wife.

There was a super attractive girl from Australia who was working for an ngo who I got along with, but We couldn't even get together in that environment. Trust me nothing kills the libido like being in an aids infested country.

But then again, I observed how difficult it is to get that stuff, and there were a couple of doctors there who were upfront about the reality of HIV and everything. That's the only time I've heard a doctor admit how hard it is to get that stuff through normal Hetero behaviors, if your health condition is "first world standard," as I began to call it, to differentiate between all the pre existing diseases and problems people had there outside of HIV.

One of the doctors got plastered in town on leave and he told me that he was suspicious HIV wasn't designed to eradicate certain populations, but we all say stupid ish when intoxicated.

But still, that one guy was crazy. His name was Terrell, and so the captain always called him "T.O." Because he often showed out a lot (like Terrell Owens). I think he and some other guys caused more problems than they let on though- they instituted a rule that you had to be off deployment for a solid year before going in. No more getting out and going straight to the company. Because guys were coming back from months and months of zero booze and zero female contact while on deployment and would just bust loose from the get go. Of course, this was back in the mid 2000s when the army was so hard up for bodies you could exit right after deployment, as they were already keeping guys after their enlistment.

Anyway, enough of that irrelevant story.
 
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Just adding my story here:

Was with a girl from JK(don't want to mention her by name) were doing CFS and the condom broke and she didn't seem to be fazed by it at all...

Her 2 questions for me regarding that were:
1. Did you cum inside?
2. Have you had sex with men?

Then she was like oh, no problem I'm on the pill...

Kinda freaked me out how non-bothered she was by it.

Does anyone here even request covered BJ from JK?

Need to bring my own condoms and not rely on JP size....
 
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Obviously you can never be fully safe, but from a statistical point of view, it seems as though it is significantly more " dangerous" going to a place like that versus a " standard" escort service like AM or especially an upscale like kitty/Kansai Sayiri, etc

You're right based purely on the fact that 'brothel' girls see far more clients a day/week/month than escorts do (and AM escorts see more than Sayuri or I do), and the risk goes up with every new partner.

I can't get my head round the story of Hitomi at Genki pulling the condom off and letting the guy come inside her. INSANITY. I'm not sure if that's just ignorance or a total disregard for her own sexual health. Possibly the former given the standard of Japanese sex education (I know, I received it in high school!), and @okayspot's story certainly backs that theory up.

Personally, my policy is no glove, no love (except for oral, where I am willing to take the minuscule risk for the sake of not having a mouthful of latex - yuck!) and tests every three months at Shinjuku Yobokai (12,000 yen for everything including an HIV blood test). No amount of money or pleasure is worth your health.
 
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True, quite a lot of insanity out there. I was in a pink saloon once, and the (Chinese) girl tried to ride me nama on the bench instead of doing the expected job. I was so flabbergasted, I just managed to stop her at the last moment. I mean, namahomban is a great thing, but there, then? No friggin way. I shudder to think how many customers went for it...
 
@okayspot One OL-style gal, who is a nurse (really!, not just sometimes), told me that OL and so I expect JK and Eruoto as they are the same group, require the girls to be tested monthly. Large size condoms are easy to find. Look for the pack with the horse head on it (some used to have a very prominent nose - still around I wonder?). Condomania in Harajuku probably have a variety of flavours other than latex (but maybe not in large sizes).
 
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@Zaphod222, I think a lot of girls think that if they're on the pill they're fine - the knowledge of STDs here is very limited. I've talked to people who think you can catch HIV from a toilet seat. -_-

Great to see you back on the boards, by the way! :)
 
@okayspot One OL-style gal, who is a nurse (really!, not just sometimes), told me that OL and so I expect JK and Eruoto as they are the same group, require the girls to be tested monthly. Large size condoms are easy to find. Look for the pack with the horse head on it (some used to have a very prominent nose - still around I wonder?). Condomania in Harajuku probably have a variety of flavours other than latex (but maybe not in large sizes).

You can buy the 'XXL Super Big Boy' condoms you're talking about (with variously a horse, an elephant and I think one other animal on the packaging) at Don Quixote. Bit pricier than average, but a nice fit for the larger gentleman by all accounts (although if you're very thick as well as long you may be better buying XXL Trojans from abroad).
 
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You can buy the 'XXL Super Big Boy' condoms you're talking about (with variously a horse, an elephant and I think one other animal on the packaging) at Don Quixote. Bit pricier than average, but a nice fit for the larger gentleman by all accounts (although if you're very thick as well as long you may be better buying XXL Trojans from abroad).

Careful with the horse and the elephant! Those two are different. For me, the horse is perfect, but the elephant honestly too loose for comfort. (Personal info here, LOL). If not sure, better try both and see which animal is better. You have to be really really well-endowed for the elephant...