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So.. I would REALLY appreciate others experiences? have you been able to meet otona 3 man girls who actually look like their pic?

The short answer for me is yes, but never someone who offered to go to a hotel on the first meeting. It happened once or twice with people I invited to a hotel after actually meeting them, and there is one other girl I still see who was apparently waiting for the invitation but I didn’t as until the second time I saw her.

Almost universally, girls who offer or insist on going to a hotel the first time are dispatch workers like the situation you described. They don’t really care what you look like (no one expects you to be a K-pop idol but do you meet their minimum standards) or if you’re a total slob or otherwise a weirdo; it’s more of a job for them (which I think is reflected in the conversation you reported). No judgment intended, but if you are looking for a girl who you would have dated in your 20s, you need to put in the time for meet and greets.

BTW, my MO for messages prior is not to mention specific amounts, but make it clear that I am okay to help financially, but that I am not looking for something platonic. If she asks at the message stage for 1 man for meetup money, I will generally ask what her expectations are for the second date and onwards, including amounts. Most girls who balk at this question are just trying to get the 1man out of you for the meet and greet, so I don’t meet people who don’t want to answer but insist on 1man for the meet up. If the girl doesn’t ask for anything, or just asks for 交通費, I will give 1man without being asked, except if she doesn’t look a thing like her photo. After meeting, if I find her attractive and we have good enough chemistry, i will bring up expectations for the next date and amounts (sometimes it happens before saying goodbye, sometimes it’s afterwards). Another way I weed out professionals is that I always ask girls I like to exchange Line and, if she balks or wants to do KakaoTalk instead, I walk. But even if you get her Line, if her nickname is not an actual name but emojis or just one letter, that can be a bad sign. Sometimes of course she may be just trying to keep her real name private from people she met on SD, which I understand and of course do too.
 
@Browcoco

Thanks! this is very helpful.

For the straight to hotel date I was fully expecting a professional, was also hoping they might have some correlation to their profile pic. Thats a pity, because if there would be reliability on the photo front this would be a nice alternative to soaps for me (i dont really like to soap vibe so much).

Really like your advice to ask about expectations beforehand. To which level of detail do you go, straight up mention hotel next time?
Also noted its a courtesy to give the money even if not asked! I think its the fair thing to do.
Will also ask LINE

Going forward I think I will continue my experiments with the kao-awase --> more serious route. I have a couple of promosing "leads" lined up in sugardaddy so will probably post about it here.
 
@8888ball
Mate! it's right there in their profile. You can even filter it.

積極的 means DTF
相手に合わせるmeans open to discussion (she adapts to you)
まず食事からmean M&G (meal)


The 積極的seem to be pros. The last 2 I've had contact me as up front about it and not interested in less.
Both asked for 30,000 for 大人関係

積極的 is usually deriheru girls working on the side. They want to meet at a hotel immediately, usually poor or fake pics, etc. Some accounts actually seem to be run by a pimp and multiple girls. Much safer just to go with reviewed deriheru service.

相手に合わせる are usually open to adult relationships, and the meal ones it’s hit or miss.

@8888ball I think 顔合わせ only for a first date is not that unusual. Especially if she didn’t ask for payment and wants to meet again, that’s a good sign.

Also, there is no age verification. You can get the verified badge by submitting ID or just using a credit card lol. They don’t check age. Lots of women there are 5-10+ older than stated.
 
My problem is how vapid the women are.
I don't mind quiet and submissive women, if you meet in person you might see something attractive. But online just はじめまして、よろしくお願いします, I like Cafes and work in clothing, is just tedious and boring.
I'm looking for a part time girlfriend with an allowance. ie a sugar baby, I can go to a salon for a quick fuck any time
 
積極的 is usually deriheru girls working on the side. They want to meet at a hotel immediately, usually poor or fake pics, etc. Some accounts actually seem to be run by a pimp and multiple girls. Much safer just to go with reviewed deriheru service.

相手に合わせる are usually open to adult relationships, and the meal ones it’s hit or miss.

@8888ball I think 顔合わせ only for a first date is not that unusual. Especially if she didn’t ask for payment and wants to meet again, that’s a good sign.

Also, there is no age verification. You can get the verified badge by submitting ID or just using a credit card lol. They don’t check age. Lots of women there are 5-10+ older than stated.

thanks, but I meant DTF and M&G, bet there are other abbreviations as well.
FS?

Got it on the age..yeah I also verified by credit card
 
These 積極的girls seem to be no different than the girls on PCmax and other deai sites.

In my limited experience, I had better luck on paters
 
積極的 is usually deriheru girls working on the side. They want to meet at a hotel immediately, usually poor or fake pics, etc. Some accounts actually seem to be run by a pimp and multiple girls. Much safer just to go with reviewed deriheru service.

I just realized this is probably what happened with my experience. Pimp screwing up the messages and all. very enlightening!
But Deriheru's dont offer 本番 right? (whats the appropriate abbreviation for that? or can we write english?)
 
I just realized this is probably what happened with my experience. Pimp screwing up the messages and all. very enlightening!
But Deriheru's dont offer 本番 right? (whats the appropriate abbreviation for that? or can we write english?)
No sane deriheru would offer 本番 (or FS in english). Whatever you and the girl decide to do behind closed doors is between the 2 of you.
 
No sane deriheru would offer 本番 (or FS in english). Whatever you and the girl decide to do behind closed doors is between the 2 of you.

a friend told me that place he goes the girls are ok with this, how many % would this be in general? If its not very common, then the sugar daddy route seems pretty solid.
 
a friend told me that place he goes the girls are ok with this, how many % would this be in general? If its not very common, then the sugar daddy route seems pretty solid.
As long as you're nice, higenic, and offer a tip the percentage should be pretty high. Speaking Japanese helps too.
 
@newbie

QUOTE="newbie, post: 286432, member: 4622"]As long as you're nice, higenic, and offer a tip the percentage should be pretty high. Speaking Japanese helps too.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I should be OK on those fronts, but on the other hand I read somewhere that you shouldn't initiate the conversation, that is up to the girl.

I guess I am asking how to offer the tip in an appropriate way?

My only shitty deri-heru experience - she was very clear before it started that there will be no FS (whatever that stands for)

Edit: checked the questions forum sticky so got it now.(FS)
 
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a friend told me that place he goes the girls are ok with this, how many % would this be in general? If its not very common, then the sugar daddy route seems pretty solid.

I could get FS from a girl 100% of the time but she might not do it for you cause she's not into you or she's just not in the mood. Your mileage may vary so it's hard to give a %

That being said, there are plenty of deri heru girls who will offer it (and plenty that won't). Some offer it right away, some only after the 2nd meeting and some only if you ask. You just have to put yourself out there and figure it out yourself.
 
I could get FS from a girl 100% of the time but she might not do it for you cause she's not into you or she's just not in the mood. Your mileage may vary so it's hard to give a %

That being said, there are plenty of deri heru girls who will offer it (and plenty that won't). Some offer it right away, some only after the 2nd meeting and some only if you ask. You just have to put yourself out there and figure it out yourself.

本番 based on compatibility is pretty hit or miss, but I’ve had providers offer for free, even at pink salons. Some girls seem to do it to up their rankings, since it puts them ahead of the other girls.

I rarely outright ask though. Since I haven’t seen this talked about anywhere, do you offer a tip? If so, what’s the standard range?
 
本番 based on compatibility is pretty hit or miss, but I’ve had providers offer for free, even at pink salons. Some girls seem to do it to up their rankings, since it puts them ahead of the other girls.

I rarely outright ask though. Since I haven’t seen this talked about anywhere, do you offer a tip? If so, what’s the standard range?

I have never offered a tip. I was always under the assumption that it was a free service. If a tip was expected then there might be a lot of women upset with me :cautious:

Also, yeah there have been some girls in non deri heru shops that have offered before. In some cases I realize "Ah, that's why your ranking is so high"
 
seriously ...

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Have set up 6 dates for this week.
Most are M&G but are couple have made 大人関係offer.

Some are too good to be true. Stunning model like offering FS for 30,000. I smelly a furry little rodent!
I have subscribed again last week to SDJ looking for a stable SB. I have received a lot of responses and direct proposals without doing almost anything! I have discarded those that looked professional WG (30%) and the ones that just wanted platonic (50%). I've seen two gorgeous girls having great GF experiences.Another four on my dating schedule for next ten days and five in the pipeline. All of them genuine, attractive, with little or no experience in this business. They accept easily “adult” in the second meeting for 30K without negotiating. Most of them lost their main part time job and need urgent income because the extension of the state of alarm in Tokyo.
 
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Most of them lost their main part time job and need urgent income because the extension of the state of alarm in Tokyo.

looks like its time to petition the government to extend it again :D

Am i an asshole for writing this? Of course. But also a dumbass because it’s when opportunities abound and prices decline that I become monogamist. Whip me guys, I deserve it
 
looks like its time to petition the government to extend it again :D

Am i an asshole for writing this? Of course. But also a dumbass because it’s when opportunities abound and prices decline that I become monogamist. Whip me guys, I deserve it
You have already hit the jackpot of the lottery, leave the rest of the prizes to us.
 
17,000+ messages and (incredibly) 22,000+ likes

Can those used as bonus points to pay for services? Like having the whipping done by a spinner with a strap-on?

Just asking for a friend, obviously.