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Is Asking A Japanese Woman Directly If She Wants To Have Sex...sexual Harassment In Japan?

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I sometimes get tired of trying to "get to know" all these different Japanese women for weeks and weeks, which often only results in them flaking on me or just wanting to learn English.

If I just walked up to a women and said something like: "You...me...sex...OK?!" Would they probably freak out or would they just walk away and say nothing?

I always wondered if the really direct approach has ever worked with anyone on here?

Of course I would be able to propose this with confidence if I know that it would not be something legally dangerous to do...
 
J dudes do it! But J women tell me that that disgusts them. And yes, it is sexual harrassment. It is doubtful that that would get you any closer. J women are like any other woman that wants to shag. They will "invite" you. You gotta look for the signs. Touching your knee. Pokes in the back or ribs. 3am messages. So in other words, set up a romantic date by a LH. Walk her to it, get her inside (they usually agree because they want to shag, but they don't want you to think they are sluts when they are already shagging this way), do your business knowing it won't happen again. Move on to the next conquest. Sometimes they like it and will repeat. Not likely since they are just into shagging unless their clock is ticking. Then, you might get more than your share of shagging. To shag a J woman, one should be coy about it.
 
Are you a member of One Direction on a Japan concert tour?

If not "You...me...sex...OK?!" is not going to work

Japanese women in the late 30s and beyond are direct with the body language that Beef describes. If they are looking for it then they let you know. Coy not creepy!
 
Are you a member of One Direction on a Japan concert tour?

If not "You...me...sex...OK?!" is not going to work

Japanese women in the late 30s and beyond are direct with the body language that Beef describes. If they are looking for it then they let you know. Coy not creepy!

I lived in China for about 4 years and this worked with me on many occasions. I'm a small framed guy, but I do have a good looking face. I also have the blonde hair and blue eyes most of them seem to be obsessed with.

I have noticed a significant difference between Chinese and Japanese women though. For one, when I chat with Chinese women online, they are usually way more open to talking about sex. Japanese women almost always react negatively as soon as I bring up anything sex related. Maybe this is because in Japan women are more aware of sexual perverts as women are in China? Maybe women in Japan feel less interested in sex with foreigners because foreigners have more of a negative reputation here than in China? Maybe Japanese women are more content living in Japan, whereas Chinese women are more desperate to leave their country to live abroad with a foreigner? I think there are many factors to this.
 
If it was that easy there wouldn't be a population problem.
 
@TokyoJoeblow - Chinese women are culturally more like American or European women than they are like Japanese women, imo. I would suggest largely ignoring/forgetting your experiences with Chinese women as a basis for interactions with Japanese ones.

-Ww
 
agree with Ww. i would not use your experience in china as a guide for navigating in japan.
 
Chinese women are a lot cooler imo. Not all, but most Japanese women have annoying, childish personalities. They make weird noises when you bang them too. Chinese women don't make those stupid noises.
 
Wait you lived in China for 4 years and you are worried about touching Japanese slippers? Come on!

Also, yeah blue eyes do help

I understand that China has a reputation for being dirty and yes it is. It is annoying everyone assumes Japan is pristine clean everywhere you go. I have come across some dirty ass places all over Japan just like in China.

I have been sick multiple times in China, so I'm hoping that won't be the case in Japan.
 
Chinese women are a lot cooler imo. Not all, but most Japanese women have annoying, childish personalities. They make weird noises when you bang them too. Chinese women don't make those stupid noises.

I don't think anyone here said that J women are better or cooler (which is surely a matter of taste anyway), just that they are quite different in term so of culture...including sex noises.

-Ww
 
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I sometimes get tired of trying to "get to know" all these different Japanese women for weeks and weeks, which often only results in them flaking on me or just wanting to learn English.

If I just walked up to a women and said something like: "You...me...sex...OK?!" Would they probably freak out or would they just walk away and say nothing?

I always wondered if the really direct approach has ever worked with anyone on here?

Of course I would be able to propose this with confidence if I know that it would not be something legally dangerous to do...

These are just my opinions:

1) If you are waiting weeks to ask women out or to try to have sex, that's a HUGE problem right there.

As a general rule, when you first meet or interact with a woman, suggest or make it clear you are interested in going out. Then request to go out within that 1st week.

Your REQUEST, should be within 3 days of first contact, and the ACTUAL meeting day should be that 1st week (best), or 2nd week (more likely to flake). You only accept the 2nd week, if you or her have schedule, work, or health problems. Remember not to ask her to meet you on the same day of your request, but give her a few days advance notice to fix her schedule.

A huge failure of many guys is thinking they will SNEAK in through the "back door" by being effeminate or a neutral friend with no sexual interest. The woman then puts the guy in the "FRIEND ZONE. A box he often can't get out of. Suggest and make your intention to meet her someday soon very clear. But, be smooth about it.

2) You can't be too direct either, as you will come off creepy or desperate. Women tend to put such a guy in another negative box, which he can't get out of.

You CREATE the situation where sex is possible, by WHERE you are meeting her. You also talk about sex INDIRECTLY, to give her conscious or subconscious mind a clue. She will then understand that sex can happen, by how you are interacting with each other, without you having to directly ask or insanely beg for sex.

3) If you can't figure out how to do this or have no patience, then better you go pay.

Women are not robots that will do whatever you say by command, unless you are paying them.
 
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These are just my opinions:

1) If you are waiting weeks to ask women out or to try to have sex, that's a HUGE problem right there.

As a general rule, when you first meet or interact with a woman, suggest or make it clear you are interested in going out. Then request to go out within that 1st week.

Your REQUEST, should be within 3 days of first contact, and the ACTUAL meeting day should be that 1st week (best), or 2nd week (more likely to flake). You only accept the 2nd week, if you or her have schedule, work, or health problems. Remember not to ask her to meet you on the same day of your request, but give her a few days advance notice to fix her schedule.

A huge failure of many guys is thinking they will SNEAK in through the "back door" by being effeminate or a neutral friend with no sexual interest. The woman then puts the guy in the "FRIEND ZONE. A box he often can't get out of. Suggest and make your intention to meet her someday soon very clear. But, be smooth about it.

2) You can't be too direct either, as you will come off creepy or desperate. Women tend to put such a guy in another negative box, which he can't get out of.

You CREATE the situation where sex is possible, by WHERE you are meeting her. You also talk about sex INDIRECTLY, to give her conscious or subconscious mind a clue. She will then understand that sex can happen, by how you are interacting with each other, without you having to directly ask or insanely beg for sex.

3) If you can't figure out how to do this or have no patience, then better you go pay.

Women are not robots that will do whatever you say by command, unless you are paying them.


Solid Gold right here.

I'm adding this to my pick up notes.

Within the last month I've gotten THREE J-notches using this ish, which is not exactly easy as the Midwest U.S. is not known for lots of J-chicks.

Two tourists and one waitress. I couldn't believe it. Naturally they are a lot wilder abroad but still.

It's official. I'll be moving into an apartment in Kyushu in late July. I feel like I'm just gonna slay it out there due to all this study and practice.

All should take note-this stuff works have no doubts.
 
Make sure to ask @johnnyboy84 for the name of his company so you can avoid working for them. :poop:
 
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A huge failure of many guys is thinking they will SNEAK in through the "back door" by being effeminate or a neutral friend with no sexual interest.

I guess you have to pay an extra 10,000 yen for that...,
 
Direct propositioning from the beginning is done in multiple ways but a couple of the most common are:

休憩しよう - pretty direct, but sounds much better than "You me sex ok?" Yet still pretty Damn clear to j chicks.

The financial opener - TAGers with cash wanting to get into pickup might consider this option.. Basically involves packing your wallet with 1万 bills and going to a girl on the street (or wherever) and opening your wallet and saying "I have some money here.... And more at home...."
Keep in mind, there's no agreement here and you don't actually have to give her anything (unless you make an agreement.. Then don't be a dick). I think it's actually helpful NOT to imply more directly than this that you will be paying her for sex.. If you like you can think of it as merely showing her you would be able to provide for her in a relationship..

I'm not a big fan of doing this myself but some guys do it and I always thought it was funny.

When it's raining I like saying
雨宿りしよう
This one is a little more ambiguous and doesn't necessarily mean to a hotel but of course you can directly walk to one if you like.

Keep in mind these are basically openers - meaning, the first or one of the first things you say to a girl when you meet her.

It's important to note that these are very high risk high reward.. Meaning, low response rate but if they accept.. Well.. Straight to the love hotel!
 
When it's raining I like saying
雨宿りしよう
This one is a little more ambiguous and doesn't necessarily mean to a hotel but of course you can directly walk to one if you like.

Two comments:

1 - You just bumped a quite old thread, and our oppressors...I mean...uh...umm...moderators don't appreciate that for some reason, so you may get a reprimand.

2 - It might be worth keeping in mind that many, most I'd guess, TAGers don't read Japanese (including me) so they have no idea how to say what you suggest they say in the quote above! It might be better to write it out in kanji and give a translation of its meaning to English.

-Ww
 
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Ah, sorry didn't notice it was an old thread, my bad ^^

First one is

Kyuukei shiyou = Let's take a break/rest

Second one is

Amayadori shiyou = Let's take shelter from the rain
 
It might be better to write it out in kanji and give a translation of its meaning to English.

I would disagree a little, perhaps Kanji and Hiragana, and then the meaning. Roumanji looks hideous and anyone slightly proficient in Japanese knows Hiragana
 
I would love to hear more info about what sort of results happen with these sorts of direct approaches. Like, is there not a risk of cops being called etc? What is your experience of the typical results of this approach as a matter of interest?
 
I would love to hear more info about what sort of results happen with these sorts of direct approaches. Like, is there not a risk of cops being called etc? What is your experience of the typical results of this approach as a matter of interest?

Japanese women will call the cops on a foreigner for J-walking a narrow street with no cars in sight, talking too loud, farting, saying hello to them lol.
 
I would love to hear more info about what sort of results happen with these sorts of direct approaches. Like, is there not a risk of cops being called etc? What is your experience of the typical results of this approach as a matter of interest?

I think it's much more about how you say it than the fact that you are being very direct. If you seem just sleazy, aggressive, or weird, or if she gets the slightest suspicion you might not be serious about your request, it's not likely to go over well. Still, almost all women won't call the cops, and even if they did you could always just run away before they came (not that it's illegal.. But who wants to talk to cops)

By and large the response you will get if you are respectful yet confident and assured will just be to simply turn down your offer. A percentage will giggle and admire the directness of your approach and stick around for a conversation and see what you're like (and maybe something might happen from there) and a smaller percentage still will take you up on your offer then and there.

In general the ones which will take you up on it will be because someone cancelled their plans with them and they're bored, lonely, horny, or some combination of those. Great times and locations to go in with apocalypse openers are around 12-1:30am (just missed last train), Friday/Saturday night in Tsutaya/movie stores (don't have plans on a prime social night), or around 4:30am (post club crowd, good mood, didn't meet someone they liked yet, tired and want to be somewhere warm) and perhaps most surprisingly, around 4pm on weekdays. Other than that every once in a while you just get lucky finding the right girl.

I met a girl, a theatre actress from kansai in the afternoon in Shibuya when I just arrived back in Japan from a trip to southeast Asia. It was about 2:30pm and I was killing time until I went to see a party with my friends around 6pm, so I didn't have much time which led me to be pretty direct using the 休憩しよう (Let's have a rest) line. She agreed and we went right to a hotel. Was probably about 15 minutes from hello to entering hotel, mostly just walking directly there. We had sex stone cold sober, she went back to Osaka that night and I went to my party. Most people don't realize that girls walking around with little to do are often really open to having a little adventure..

The big purple blob is me (kinda started looking like a dick so I ran with it) ;)
 
You won't post your own face but you'll post someone else's without their permission? Hmm...

Yeah I sort of went back and forth with myself about whether to post the picture or not. I probably won't make a habit of posting pictures and on the other pickup sites I run and frequent nobody does but it seems a lot of people on this board seem to think I'm full of lies..

As for the double standard... She doesn't post on here nor is she even in the area this board is about (Tokyo). As for myself.. There may be a time soon at which I become straight up public with myself so you all can look forward to giving me more hate, personally, when that happens ^^