The Bitches Who Crossed Your Path

majimekun said:

These girls have the power to turn the nicest guy into a hatred factory thanks to their constant lies and betrayals right in your face.

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Women only have the power over you that you give them. She can't turn you into a hatred factory if you don't let her. To me your story sounds like a case of you not establishing boundaries and cutting someone out of your life when you should have. The second you determine a woman doesn't live up to your standards of conduct, let her go without any anger. Simply send her on her way with a smile and a wish of "best luck." If you let her continue to be in your life and cross your boundaries, it is toxic for you, and will breed hate, yes. But don't blame the girl for this if you let her be in your life this whole time.. it's nobody's fault but your own.

majimekun said:

Maybe I've been in Japan way too long but the term "ビッチ" (bitch)　is commonly used by the Japanese to describe women with a mean personality. In that case the term isn't related to anything sexual.

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Maybe you haven't been in Japan long enough, because ビッチ actually means "slut" in Japanese. In the West/English bitch means as you described, a unpleasant or mean woman, but perhaps more accurately it usually means "Woman who isn't having sex with me and/or showed strength rather than submission and I'm angry about it" as opposed to "slut" which means "woman who has sex with me, and other men, and I don't like the other men part." Basically, the two insults directed at women seem to usually be relating directly to their propensity to have sex with and incite jealousy/anger in the speaker of the insult. Often (always?) insulting someone says more about the insulter than the insulted.

Desktop said:

I know plenty of guys who went out with someone who couldn't control their emotions, temper, or have restraint. Each guy thought they could control her (as in make her feel better), but each attack just always escalated. I understand.

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One thing I've learned the hard way is that you should just let people go rather than try to "help them" for their chronic personality issues, especially if they are women who are jumping serially from abusive relationship to abusive relationship. The urge to help is strong, but in the words of Admiral Akbar "It's a trap!" Personality disorders are largely there to stay.. even therapists have a really difficult time with them. You most definitely should aggressively (but peacefully and non-angrily) cut people out of your life who you suspect or know to be bringing negativity into your life and crossing your personal boundaries. Be the benevolent but firm ruler of your kingdom, and you'll attract high quality people into your life and keep out the people who cause problems.

majimekun said:

I hurt her only by imagination (virtually) which greatly helps avoiding doing things in the real world.

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I'm not sure about this..

I'm reminded of the Buddhist maxim

"You are not punished for your anger, but by your anger."

I think any ex, who tells you that a bloke shagged her ass so hard it hurts is overstepping the boundary of friendship. As much as my exes and I managed to stay quite close, it's just not something I would be happy knowing. I wouldn't really want my friends to be telling me this, never mind someone I'd been intimate with

P.S, what's her number

John Chavers said:

How does anyone bring this up in conversation?

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Why aren't we best friends? Love the same sick films!!!!

Sadly it was John Ritter's last film. And Bernie Mac didn't live that much longer.

Well, a major bitch has crossed by path in the past but she was a former friend's ex and not mine. She along with a list of reasons is why I'm not friends with that guy anymore. She was the worst person I ever met in my life and I have called the cops on her on two occasions. The way this person treated me and the way she lives her lifestyle, if you had to go through with what I did with this woman, you'd say the following words, I hope she dies of ovarian and breast cancer. That's the type of bad person she was to wish that kind of thing and I don't say that very often except in this instance. I have mostly forgotten but no way am I forgiving with what she did to me.

I won't try to claim I'm Jesus or a saint but I did nothing to her but exist. She was always judgmental of me over the stupidest reasons such as I refuse to drink, that I was into fitness, that I wore a hat, or that I would get cru-cuts, etc. I gave her countless chances to be friends but she'd throw it back in my face. I was forgiving the first few times for my friend but enough was enough. We were 25 then and she shouldn't have acted the way she did towards other people.

She'd lie to me to steal money out of me and she'd ruin every chance I would try to get a date. There were instances I wanted to go Chris Brown on her but thankfully, I got out of that friendship and town before it got to that (though I did beat up my friend for it). I called the cops because she was falsely harassing me over things that were not true such as falsely accusing me of stealing from her and raping her, etc. Hell, I wouldn't put a 10ft pole inside of her.

This story is just the tip of the iceberg. Thankfully, my experience with her did not change my view of Japanese women or women as a whole. There are exceptions to all rules and people and she was it. Now my life is in a better place.

johnnyboy84 said:

that I wore a hat

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Deserved it buddy.

majimekun said:

I can say I'm a very nice guy and I've been mostly lucky with my past relationships. But there are times when a real bitch enters your life. I'm talking about the girls who show the worst personality you could think of. These girls have the power to turn the nicest guy into a hatred factory thanks to their constant lies and betrayals right in your face...

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There is another side of the behavior of many women that isn't commonly acknowledged. Emotional abuse and manipulation. For some reason, when men fall pray to it, they are often laughed at or held accountable for falling victim to it. "You were thinking with your dick, instead of your head." Where adult women who are highly abusive or causing drama, often are not held accountable for what they are doing as if they are children, or are even allowed to spin it and claim being the victim no matter how ludicrous. An extreme version of this is Jodi Arias, who brutally murdered her boyfriend in the shower, but tried beyond all sense and logic to claim she was the victim. It should also be a cautionary tale for men to not underestimate "crazy bitches".

There are plenty of women that take massive advantage of their beauty and male sexual interest in them, to be extremely abusive. It can be even worse if the woman has real psychological problems or are sociopaths. Absolutely men can be abusive too, but often people can see it more obviously, it's more physical, or are quick to blame the man. If for no other reason than the guy is physically big or muscular, so people are intimidated or wary. Where the female version can be less physical, heavily emotional, manipulative, and stealthy.

Guys can be strongly susceptible to the combinations of beauty, sex, lack of other sexual options, and being ignorant about the dangers certain type of women can present. Many guys have this false bravado, where they think there is nothing a woman can do to hurt them physically, emotionally, legally or financially. Like an idiot Boxer with his hands down, eyes closed, and chin high in the air. Then these type of guys find out way too late. Heaven help the guy if she is both pretty and good at sex, because a lot of guys (myself included) have fell down that trap (like a Venus flytrap). Some poor fools, repeatedly and often.

Look for and recognize when a woman is emotionally unstable, crazy, manipulative, or predatory. Crazy and unstable is usually easier, but guys want to get their dick wet, so jump in any way. But at least have plan B very ready or keep it as short time fun and walk. Some guys will try to "fix" a crazy woman, but unless you have a degree in psychology, would suggest finding a new girlfriend as soon as possible instead. Manipulative and predatory is very hard for many guys to spot. A big clue that should set a guy's radar off, is when the woman appears to be strongly studying and analyzing you, and asks you for favors when she does not reciprocate or very unfair in exchanges. She wants you to do for her or whatever is convenient for her, but she avoids returning the favor.

My opinion is that a man is always best served by having other options. If there is something wrong with your relationship, and after thinking about it deeply, you feel it can't be fixed or is causing you too much stress, then you might be better off moving on. No matter how pretty she is or how good the sex, because those 2 can just be bait to pull you into drama or a bad situation that you truly don't want. If you look and try hard enough, you can find another woman and create a better relationship.

DCSI_Lockers said:

Deserved it buddy.

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I take back saying going Chris Brown on her. I would have gone Jon Koppenhaver on her and made her face look like Christy Mack's. But seriously, I swear to every holy scripture you can think of, this person was a low life piece of shit. She attempted to steal from me and everything and has attacked me for no reason. I could have gone Jon Koppenhaver or George Zimmerman on her, but I chose not to hit back and just call the cops. But if I was in that situation any longer, I probably would have. Thankfully, I never had to deal with people like this in a first hand relationship.

johnnyboy84 said:

I take back saying going Chris Brown on her. I would have gone Jon Koppenhaver on her and made her face look like Christy Mack's.

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You may want to take a step back and reconsider making statements promoting violence against women.

There are rare situations when that's appropriate, such as if she steps to you with a weapon in hand, but that's not exactly the situation you're describing, nor is the level of response you're proposing appropriate even in that situation.

Some stories here are familiar to me, and while I do recognize that people (of both genders) can engage in destructive behavior, in a lot of situations, one can take control and take measures to extract oneself from the company of such people. This of course requires recognizing the situation and quickly determining when to back away, which are different skills.

For situations where less control can be had, those probably are already categorized under issues such as domestic violence, abuse etc... , and probably go beyond the scope of this topic (experiences with so-called "bitches")

Manipulative and predatory is very hard for many guys to spot. A big clue that should set a guy's radar off, is when the woman appears to be strongly studying and analyzing you, and asks you for favors when she does not reciprocate or very unfair in exchanges. She wants you to do for her or whatever is convenient for her, but she avoids returning the favor.

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Maybe these women have just been reading pick-up manuals?

Sudsy said:

You may want to take a step back and reconsider making statements promoting violence against women.

There are rare situations when that's appropriate, such as if she steps to you with a weapon in hand, but that's not exactly the situation you're describing, nor is the level of response you're proposing appropriate even in that situation.

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I really appreciate your concern, but I think you are taking what I wrote out of context when you said "promoting violence against women."

I'm not promoting violence against women as a whole, just one bitch who deserves it. I am sorry you interpreted it that way but I do not feel sorry that I made that statement in regards to THAT INDIVIDUAL and not to a whole group of people.

I don't judge women or Japanese women as a whole when I made that statement. I already disclaimed that in my first post on the thread.

I may not be a saint but I'm all about treating people the way you want to be treated. As I said, I did everything possible to be this person's friend, but she did more than throw it back in my face and if I stayed in that situation any longer, she probably would have attacked me with a weapon. She did attack me on a few occasions, she stole food from me, and has broken into my home. Plus, she cheated on my friend and she bums off people and she was a hardcore druggie and alcoholic. The list goes on. It started off with just her being judgmental about me over trivial stuff and then it just escalated to major drama to the point I wish those things upon her.

She has physically attacked me and I did not lay my hand on her but it was getting to the point that I had to bail town (that along with numerous reasons).

raumsagan said:

Some stories here are familiar to me, and while I do recognize that people (of both genders) can engage in destructive behavior, in a lot of situations, one can take control and take measures to extract oneself from the company of such people. This of course requires recognizing the situation and quickly determining when to back away, which are different skills.

For situations where less control can be had, those probably are already categorized under issues such as domestic violence, abuse etc... , and probably go beyond the scope of this topic (experiences with so-called "bitches")

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Yup. I backed away from that situation and it had to go to a point that I had to leave a city which is how bad it was.

I am glad that I am in a happy relationship now with a very terrific person that I am proud to say I don't deserve but somehow she is there for me and I do everything I can to make her happy.

Curacao said:

Maybe these women have just been reading pick-up manuals?

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Actually, women have a tremendous selection of magazines and books to teach them how to manipulate and take advantage of men.

http://therulesbook.com/
(Women's Game)

The hilarious thing about this is guys being so clueless about it, or the hypocrisy of negativity towards guys having any pick-up or relationship help.

Maybe TAG needs a forum especially for anger and hate threads...

-Ww

meiji said:

Yes, because most people knowing how The Rules or, say, Cosmo are both crappy ways for women to handle men is a deep dark secret that you are just revealing now.

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A lot of guys have no clue about books like The Rules, or that it reflects a form of common traditional methodology used by women. Many women use the convoluted concepts and detrimental thinking outlined in the book, without even knowing it.

meiji said:

You realize that there are men out there that are both aware that some women are manipulative AND aren't interested in your particular view of women and sex, right? You also realize that there are women out there that aren't manipulative, AND aren't interested in promiscuous sex, right? It's not necessarily one or the other.

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The same goes for your views about women and sex too. Your or my view is not the "be all, end all" of what people are "suppose" to think.

The problem is too many gimps is stra8t up sucka's. U gotta be "sucka-free." You can't letta ho' trik u. You gotta trik them b4 dey trik u & then run em' thru the dirt. Beet em' to the punch - so-2-speek. I'm talking - b-friend them and make dem & feel good about who they is. Once you mack on em', you tell them u need some stacks - like a couple thou for you sick mom. Once dey in on that, you re-up to a couple hundred thou. B4 u know it, u got dey money, dey love, and dey devotion....and dey suckin' yo shit off every morning

(...awaiting John Chavers "Whatchu' talking bout' Willis" animated .GIF)