Guest viewing is limited

Restaurants Refusing Foreigners Common?

seeusmile

TAG Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2016
Messages
25
Reaction score
30
Recently tried entering restaurant in a multi-level building only to be turned away by an older man saying something in japanese then crossed his arms followed by 'no seating' after my sister tried to communicate in English

To clarify whether it non gajin friendly or they really had no seating I watched a japanese couple enter in not long after us who wasn't turned away.

Bit of a bummer not sure if a language barrier/racism thing.
 
Last time I got rejected from entering a restaurant because of my skin colour was around two decades ago. And even then it was not in Tokyo.

Maybe they were fully booked and the couple had a reservation?
 
Last time I got rejected from entering a restaurant because of my skin colour was around two decades ago. And even then it was not in Tokyo.

Maybe they were fully booked and the couple had a reservation?
Last time I got rejected from entering a restaurant because of my skin colour was around two decades ago. And even then it was not in Tokyo.

Maybe they were fully booked and the couple had a reservation?

perhaps... well I guess I shouldn't over think about it too much and move on.

settled for burger king
 
  • Like
Reactions: MikeH
Never been rejected - it's either full or one of those reservation only places.

Also, if it's later in the evening, make note of the last order time and not the closing time.
If LO is 10:30 and you show up and 10:31, you won't get seated even if they don't 'close' till 11pm.
 
ahh could be the case. I'll try popping by again if I pass the place the second time and see what happens. cheers for the input guys!
 
never heard that about restaurants... you get that at bars, though... double embarrassing to me when im sitting there alone and other foreigners arent allowed to enter... i always wish i wasnt there in those situations (and they happen often), especially when i got to tell them they have to leave...

why dont you go and make a reservation? maybe the easiest way to find out...
 
  • Like
Reactions: seeusmile
I`ve been at maid outfit girls bars before and seen them refuse customers who can`t speak Japanese, but yeah doubt this is a case of no Japanese allowed.
18 years in the country and I`ve never been rejected from a store - for being a gaijin - that wasn`t adult related.

I have been rejected from a large amount of nail salons for being a male, never have been in America, but that is a different story....
 
Ok so went back again, although decided to turn up the notch with the language barrier by going with the hearing impairment/deaf approach and had Japanese> eng/eng>Japanese translation setup.
(yeh it was a bit soul destroying deceiving them but was the safest thing that came to mind)

Pretty much what Alice mentioned english/eigo was too much trouble for what it's worth for them when asking about provisions for foreigners or non Japanese speakers.
but somehow being deaf bypassed all that good to know they don't discriminate that.

I forgot to mention my sister did specifically say 'english menu' to them before getting turned away.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AliceInWonderland
Ok so went back again, although decided to turn up the notch with the language barrier by going with the hearing impairment/deaf approach and had Japanese> eng/eng>Japanese translation setup.
(yeh it was a bit soul destroying deceiving them but was the safest thing that came to mind)

Pretty much what Alice mentioned english/eigo was too much trouble for what it's worth for them when asking about provisions for foreigners or non Japanese speakers.
but somehow being deaf bypassed all that good to know they don't discriminate that.

I forgot to mention my sister did specifically say 'english menu' to them before getting turned away.
Name and shame! Where was this?
 
Unfortunately I can't recognize the japanese kanji/katana/hiragana alphabet so won't be able to say specifically.

it's on the 8f floor of a multi level rest restaurant in the shinjuku district. it's not far from the burger king joint. maybe 2-3 buildings away from it?
 
It's almost certain that they were just booked solid - I haven't been turned away from a restaurant for being non-Japanese since the mid 90s, an Okonomiyaki joint in Osaka. Even restaurants with dress codes usually have a rack of jackets in the back to dress up any clientèle that forget to wear one.
 
Being to busy is the only time you'll be turned away or to close to closing time.
 
Recently tried entering restaurant in a multi-level building only to be turned away by an older man saying something in japanese then crossed his arms followed by 'no seating' after my sister tried to communicate in English

To clarify whether it non gajin friendly or they really had no seating I watched a japanese couple enter in not long after us who wasn't turned away.

Bit of a bummer not sure if a language barrier/racism thing.
I don't think it was about being a stranger, maybe the place was reserved for an event or something.
 
I have an experience of this old school resteraunt in my neighbourbood where the patron was a complete douche. The first time i went with my japanese ex he entertained us but still had a nasty attitude to me. The next time i went there with my mate since the food was fantastic he outrightly told us to leave even though his place was empty and it was 7 in the evening... it was blatant that he was being racist. To each their own and luckily there are way too many other eating options in this city
 
Same as most of the others report. I have never been refused at a restaurant for being a gaijin, even back in the bubble days when our yen were not so badly needed by most businesses.

-Ww
 
Never been rejected - it's either full or one of those reservation only places.

Also, if it's later in the evening, make note of the last order time and not the closing time.
If LO is 10:30 and you show up and 10:31, you won't get seated even if they don't 'close' till 11pm.

Concerning this situation, it always makes me chuckle when people living here say things like " Well it hasn't happened to me" so therefore it doesn't happen. No context at all. For all we know, the person spends all their time hanging out in Roppongi or around the city in places that are foreign-friendly or that see a large foreign clientele.

It totally does happen. And not for language reasons, because it's crowded, or whatever other reason...

I'll give you two examples from the not so distant past:

1). I sometimes drink with a doctor friend in Kichijoji, and we were talking about good yakiton places in West Tokyo. He told me that, in his opinion, the best place was a shop in Kunitachi, and told me to go there. A while later, I was in the area, around opening time (5:30), and decided to check it out. The place was an older shop, sort of Showa-era, open entrance on street level with hemp noren so only the lower half of customers entering could be seen. I started in and heard the master shout "Irrashaima........." and as I came through the noren and he saw me it was "Irrashimas.........ahh ah ahh ahaha CLOSED! CLOSED! I was a bit confused and said--"It's only 5:30? You're closed?" The place was an old school yakitori shop, an open place with a U shaped counter with the master behind and only a few younger salarymen along one side. "CLOSED!!! CLOSED!!!" he shouted. I shook my head and headed out, and as i did, the salaryfucks sniggered. The fuck. It was not booked, it was not closed, it was my first time there, and it was very clear that they didn't want me there. Language was not at all an issue.

2). I went to a bar in my neighborhood---a place I'd been before and had simply sucked down a quick drink and left----always with a woman behind the bar. No issues. Came, drank silently and left. One night, I walked in and a guy was behind the bar. As soon as he saw me, he threw up the flying X and screeched "CLOSED"

"Really???"

"CLOSED!!!!"

OK, and as I walked out, this total hipster chick, in the most snide, condescending tone you can possibly imagine said "Byeeee Byeee!" Really? Do you need to rub it in?

Thing is---I don't care. I don't let things like this bother me too much---for every place that refuses customers, there are thousands of places that don't---and if a place doesn't want me, I don't want to be there---I don't argue, I just leave.

But it annoys the fuck out of me when people say that it doesn't happen. It does. Again, it isn't due to closing times, reservations, language troubles, or any other crap apologists want to throw up.
 
Last edited:
 
1). I sometimes drink with a doctor friend in Kichijoji, and we were talking about good yakiton places in West Tokyo. He told me that, in his opinion, the best place was a shop in Kunitachi, and told me to go there. A while later, I was in the area, around opening time (5:30), and decided to check it out. The place was an older shop, sort of Showa-era, open entrance on street level with hemp noren so only the lower half of customers entering could be seen. I started in and heard the master shout "Irrashaima........." and as I came through the noren and he saw me it was "Irrashimas.........ahh ah ahh ahaha CLOSED! CLOSED! I was a bit confused and said--"It's only 5:30? You're closed?" The place was an old school yakitori shop, an open place with a U shaped counter with the master behind and only a few younger salarymen along one side. "CLOSED!!! CLOSED!!!" he shouted. I shook my head and headed out, and as i did, the salaryfucks sniggered. The fuck. It was not booked, it was not closed, it was my first time there, and it was very clear that they didn't want me there. Language was not all an issue.

That must be very annoying...was this shop, a 2-storey old wooden showa-type house, located by the elevated rail track a bit eastward of Kunitachi Station? Then, it must be an unagi (eel) place. It's well known for being ridiculously exclusive, but it doesn't look like exclusive at all. Practically any first-timer needs to be one of the regulars' guest, and in principle all seats, along the U-shaped counter on the ground floor, are reserved for the regulars. I can imagine that the master shouts "CLOSED!!!" at any non-regular at 5:30.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Sudsy and MikeH
Concerning this situation, it always makes me chuckle when people living here say things like " Well it hasn't happened to me" so therefore it doesn't happen. No context at all. For all we know, the person spends all their time hanging out in Roppongi or around the city in places that are foreign-friendly or that see a large foreign clientele.

It totally does happen. And not for language reasons, because it's crowded, or whatever other reason...

I'll give you two examples from the not so distant past:

1). I sometimes drink with a doctor friend in Kichijoji, and we were talking about good yakiton places in West Tokyo. He told me that, in his opinion, the best place was a shop in Kunitachi, and told me to go there. A while later, I was in the area, around opening time (5:30), and decided to check it out. The place was an older shop, sort of Showa-era, open entrance on street level with hemp noren so only the lower half of customers entering could be seen. I started in and heard the master shout "Irrashaima........." and as I came through the noren and he saw me it was "Irrashimas.........ahh ah ahh ahaha CLOSED! CLOSED! I was a bit confused and said--"It's only 5:30? You're closed?" The place was an old school yakitori shop, an open place with a U shaped counter with the master behind and only a few younger salarymen along one side. "CLOSED!!! CLOSED!!!" he shouted. I shook my head and headed out, and as i did, the salaryfucks sniggered. The fuck. It was not booked, it was not closed, it was my first time there, and it was very clear that they didn't want me there. Language was not at all an issue.

2). I went to a bar in my neighborhood---a place I'd been before and had simply sucked down a quick drink and left----always with a woman behind the bar. No issues. Came, drank silently and left. One night, I walked in and a guy was behind the bar. As soon as he saw me, he threw up the flying X and screeched "CLOSED"

"Really???"

"CLOSED!!!!"

OK, and as I walked out, this total hipster chick, in the most snide, condescending tone you can possibly imagine said "Byeeee Byeee!" Really? Do you need to rub it in?

Thing is---I don't care. I don't let things like this bother me too much---for every place that refuses customers, there are thousands of places that don't---and if a place doesn't want me, I don't want to be there---I don't argue, I just leave.

But it annoys the fuck out of me when people say that it doesn't happen. It does. Again, it isn't due to closing times, reservations, language troubles, or any other crap apologists want to throw up.

Not trying to justify what happened to you, but it sounds like it happened in places or establishments that wasn't "foreign friendly". It's possible that they were simply trying to avoid any headaches or confusion? The hipster chick you mention sure sounds like a b**** though!

And I'm not sure if people are saying that it NEVER happens. It's just nowadays rare to hear within Tokyo where they serve clearly visible foreigners all the time.
 
  • Like
Reactions: patty diaz
Concerning this situation, it always makes me chuckle when people living here say things like " Well it hasn't happened to me" so therefore it doesn't happen. No context at all. For all we know, the person spends all their time hanging out in Roppongi or around the city in places that are foreign-friendly or that see a large foreign clientele.

It totally does happen. And not for language reasons, because it's crowded, or whatever other reason...

I'll give you two examples from the not so distant past:

1). I sometimes drink with a doctor friend in Kichijoji, and we were talking about good yakiton places in West Tokyo. He told me that, in his opinion, the best place was a shop in Kunitachi, and told me to go there. A while later, I was in the area, around opening time (5:30), and decided to check it out. The place was an older shop, sort of Showa-era, open entrance on street level with hemp noren so only the lower half of customers entering could be seen. I started in and heard the master shout "Irrashaima........." and as I came through the noren and he saw me it was "Irrashimas.........ahh ah ahh ahaha CLOSED! CLOSED! I was a bit confused and said--"It's only 5:30? You're closed?" The place was an old school yakitori shop, an open place with a U shaped counter with the master behind and only a few younger salarymen along one side. "CLOSED!!! CLOSED!!!" he shouted. I shook my head and headed out, and as i did, the salaryfucks sniggered. The fuck. It was not booked, it was not closed, it was my first time there, and it was very clear that they didn't want me there. Language was not at all an issue.

2). I went to a bar in my neighborhood---a place I'd been before and had simply sucked down a quick drink and left----always with a woman behind the bar. No issues. Came, drank silently and left. One night, I walked in and a guy was behind the bar. As soon as he saw me, he threw up the flying X and screeched "CLOSED"

"Really???"

"CLOSED!!!!"

OK, and as I walked out, this total hipster chick, in the most snide, condescending tone you can possibly imagine said "Byeeee Byeee!" Really? Do you need to rub it in?

Thing is---I don't care. I don't let things like this bother me too much---for every place that refuses customers, there are thousands of places that don't---and if a place doesn't want me, I don't want to be there---I don't argue, I just leave.

But it annoys the fuck out of me when people say that it doesn't happen. It does. Again, it isn't due to closing times, reservations, language troubles, or any other crap apologists want to throw up.
well mate I really wouldn't have imagined such situation possible in Japan. sorry if I said it can't happen or something like that.
 
That must be very annoying...was this shop, a 2-storey old wooden showa-type house, located by the elevated rail track a bit eastward of Kunitachi Station? Then, it must be an unagi (eel) place. It's well known for being ridiculously exclusive, but it doesn't look like exclusive at all. Practically any first-timer needs to be one of the regulars' guest, and in principle all seats, along the U-shaped counter on the ground floor, are reserved for the regulars. I can imagine that the master shouts "CLOSED!!!" at any non-regular at 5:30.
It was a yakiton place, not unagi--- but I think I know the place you're talking about--it's pretty dim inside, right?