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So I'm married but before I go back to my home country this year and settle for good, I want to have some memorable extra sex stories on the side to masturbate to, once we have kids and my wife (that I love) stops caring about sex. Phew.

To sum up the situation I have been on a dinner date last week with my private student and we deep kissed on the parking lot at the end (she's Japanese but doesn't care too much and she was drunk). She knows I'm married but thinks I have a bad relationship with my wife.

Then I met her over lunch on Saturday and we kissed again at the end but more discretely. Anyway, I left with a drooling boner that my wife couldn't give me anymore (the devine excitement of the beginning of any relationship). So I can't wait to finally penetrate my new friend and she seems open to it but I don't know how to make it happen and need an experienced advice.

1: the place. I live with the retired mother in law so it's gonna have to be at my student's place (she lives alone). How do I invite myself to her house? I said I wanted to meet her pets but she has not taken my hint and hasn't invited me over.
I have separately brought up the topic of love hotels and she said she used to go when she was younger but wouldn't go anymore.

2: The time. She works on same days as my wife so I can only meet her at the weekend when I'm supposed to have my private lessons. But I'd still have to be home before dinner and she lives an hour drive away.
If I were to come home late, what good excuse could I come up with?

3: evidence cleaning. My wife has a very good nose and I suspect she has already smelled this girl's cigarettes and even maybe perfume. She hasn't said anything yet but I guess falsely admitting to having picked up smoking would hurt less than to cheating. I'm thinking to bring fresh clothes in my car and change on my way home next time.
What other snags are dangerous? (lipstick marks, condom smell on the hands, etc.)
Thanks guys
 
Gunmachan said:
3: evidence cleaning. My wife has a very good nose and I suspect she has already smelled this girl's cigarettes and even maybe perfume. She hasn't said anything yet but I guess falsely admitting to having picked up smoking would hurt less than to cheating.
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This is Japan, right, where the whole anti-smoking thing is still a bit behind the times? Don't you have any "friends" you could have gone "drinking" with in a local izakaya or Hub?
 
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Gunmachan said:
2: The time. She works on same days as my wife so I can only meet her at the weekend when I'm supposed to have my private lessons. But I'd still have to be home before dinner and she lives an hour drive away.
If I were to come home late, what good excuse could I come up with?
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"I was out late because I finally remembered to take my balls with me"?
 
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OP - I am guessing you can figure this stuff out better than we can.

Anyway, are you sure you want to have children with your wife? You seem pretty jaded already.

also, there must be some horny milfs somewhere. Your wife might be one of them.

Yes, sex goes down after kids usually, at least for a while, but think of why a wife might not be putting out. In many cases it's also due to a strained relationship - yeah kids don't help.
 
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DocMcStuffins said:
OP - I am guessing you can figure this stuff out better than we can.

Anyway, are you sure you want to have children with your wife? You seem pretty jaded already.

also, there must be some horny milfs somewhere. Your wife might be one of them.

Yes, sex goes down after kids usually, at least for a while, but think of why a wife might not be putting out. In many cases it's also due to a strained relationship - yeah kids don't help.
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My wife is very sweet and I'm sure she will be a good mother for our future kids. We are both looking forward to have an offspring.

We have nice sex about once a week and a quickie here and there, but while she does get orgasms, I think sex doesn't play an important part in her daily life. Also she's not what you'd call a sexy woman, it's just not in her personality.

When I was younger, I have suffered from not being an attractive man (tall, very skinny and a childish geek) and not having sex while other people did. I have kept this pain deep inside even after I finally lost my virginity at 20 and then met my wife. early after that.

Since then, I have developed a muscular body and I pay attention to my look, my personality has also changed and I enjoy chatting with women. But I've only been with 2 women in my life and the pain is still strong when I meet attractive girls.

Now that I'm over 30, I am rather attractive in my country, and with the European features cheatcode, "very handsome" in Japan. I've been here less than a year and I'm about to leave already, so I want to use this advantage and try to get my revenge on wasted teenage years.

I want it to be a once in a lifetime thing and I am not willing to cheat again once we're back home.

I don't know if you guys will understand how I feel, I have never talked to anybody about this part of me.
 
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bergmann said:
This is Japan, right, where the whole anti-smoking thing is still a bit behind the times? Don't you have any "friends" you could have gone "drinking" with in a local izakaya or Hub?
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I have used the Izakaya excuse once before, but we only have friends in common so I said I went drinking alone and my wife thought I was depressed...
Also, public transportation is quasi non-existent here and if I were to drive to my student's place, it'd be obvious I didn't drink as Japan is very strict when it comes to drinking and driving.
I might be over-thinking and paranoid because I don't want to get caught cheating though.
 
1) Bringing a change of clothes is only a good idea if you return in the same clothes you left in. Therefore changing into your "sexy time" clothes and then out of them before you return is a must.
2) Love hotels have showers. Bring a small travel bottle of the shampoo you use, and maybe a stick of your soap in a travel bag. When all is said and done you can take a quick shower and not have any smell (this would be a good time to change into your clothes for the return.
3) You student smokes, so that's easy to explain. Just say that your student as smoking during the lesson

Will get rid of condom smell and most other smells acquired from the act. After that you may have a light smoke smell if you walk with the student to the station. If you kiss before departing chances are the lipstick is all gone. Also if she showers at the hotel probably her perfume smell as well.

As for how to get time away. Do you not have any interests or hobbies? If you do simply say you're going to such and such place after the lesson to look at such and such thing in regards to said hobby.

You and your wife are 2 separate people, do you not ever do anything without each other? I mean I go to Akihabara all the time. I also do photography and wander around by myself. Giving me plenty of excuses for me time. If you don't have a hobby pick one up.
 
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Just say you had after work drinks that lasted longer than expected.
It will explain the smoke smell.
Furthermore, as a newbie in this, the biggest clue will be your guilty face. Women are good at reading emotional clues (shame, fear, etc...) and gets their"intuitions" from bad matching between your emotional display and your speech.
Come back home with a good reason to feel guilty.

Anyway, the risk is that you may really enjoy it and can't stop. Reason why I do such things only when I'm far far away from home. P4P is perfect when you're playing at home.
 
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Since you sound so inexperienced with this, I would also recommend the P4P route. You are definitely playing with fire and since it's your first, I suspect it will get into your head and screw up your relationship with your wife even further. If you have never cheated on her (more than the kissing you've mentioned) or with anyone else, DONT START.

I personally regret getting into the P4P scene many years ago after getting pressured by my friends. Up until this point I didn't care much for it but did cheap a lot. Once I did it however I was screwed for life. Not that you will listen to my advice but think carefully if it's really worth it - I'm sure the answer is no, especially after you jerk off thinking about your student.
 
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Thanks everyone for your advice, my biggest fear now is that my student would fall in love for me and try to blow up my marriage. But like I said, I'm going home soon so I doubt she'd have time to do that.

I could go to Tokyo and try P4P. What would you recommend? Soapland? I'm not experienced so getting an appointment with a private escort seems complicated.

The reason why I need a good excuse is that my wife and I already don't spend much time together as I work on the weekends. So if I was to "go drinking" on Saturday night, she'd want to come with me.

I have Wednesday off however so I can go to Tokyo for P4P in the early afternoon that day.

Thanks again guys, I'll keep you updated.
 
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Gunmachan said:
Thanks everyone for your advice, my biggest fear now is that my student would fall in love for me and try to blow up my marriage. But like I said, I'm going home soon so I doubt she'd have time to do that.
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Looking at my friends' marriages it seems that if a girl wants to blow up your life she don't need much time to do it... Obviously not all the girls are crazy but are you willing to take that risk? I would at least talk with her about all this before heading to her bedroom.

If I was you I would do as have been suggested here and go with P4P. Those girls won't be calling to your home and asking when you are leaving your wife and moving together with them.
 
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Gunmachan said:
My wife is very sweet and I'm sure she will be a good mother for our future kids. We are both looking forward to have an offspring.

We have nice sex about once a week and a quickie here and there, but while she does get orgasms, I think sex doesn't play an important part in her daily life. Also she's not what you'd call a sexy woman, it's just not in her personality.

When I was younger, I have suffered from not being an attractive man (tall, very skinny and a childish geek) and not having sex while other people did. I have kept this pain deep inside even after I finally lost my virginity at 20 and then met my wife. early after that.

Since then, I have developed a muscular body and I pay attention to my look, my personality has also changed and I enjoy chatting with women. But I've only been with 2 women in my life and the pain is still strong when I meet attractive girls.

Now that I'm over 30, I am rather attractive in my country, and with the European features cheatcode, "very handsome" in Japan. I've been here less than a year and I'm about to leave already, so I want to use this advantage and try to get my revenge on wasted teenage years.

I want it to be a once in a lifetime thing and I am not willing to cheat again once we're back home.

I don't know if you guys will understand how I feel, I have never talked to anybody about this part of me.
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I knew a guy just like you, he died from auto erotic asphyxiation.

It was the saddest memorial service that I ever went to, then I banged his prim and proper wife about a week later.
 
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DocMcStuffins said:
Why don't you start a new thread? To me, the only bad thing about it is that I can't afford to do it as much as I would like.
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It is worth a thread of its own.
I indeed can understand that you can be ashamed by the hobby, but why in this case spending so much time on TAG.It is a bit of a masochist behavior...
 
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DocMcStuffins said:
Why don't you start a new thread? To me, the only bad thing about it is that I can't afford to do it as much as I would like.
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I don't understand your point. I was answering a question that was asked. If you are referring to why I brought my experience up, it was to support my suggestion to the OP on why he shouldn't start cheating on his wife with his student.

Is this a forum where we have to encourage one to cheat?
 
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Looking at your situation, I will have to concur with the two gentlemen that suggested p4p as opposed to cheating with your student. With p4p, there is no strings attached, just a lighter wallet. With cheating with your student, depending on the type of person you, might haunt you forever throughout your marriage. And if that student does fall in love with you, you'll consistently be looking behind your back (in your head). Obviously you could talk to your student about it and see if you can work something out, but chances are it's a mess you don't want to get yourself into. When it comes to p4p, a lot of Japanese people do not think of it as cheating, but rather as purely a physical service; however, if there are emotional attachments involved, then that is considered cheating. I'm sure a lot of the providers and independents on this site have significant others and also share this view. So! I encourage you to adopt this way of thinking just like I have, enjoy p4p, and live a happy life :)
 
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I don't understand your point. I was answering a question that was asked. If you are referring to why I brought my experience up, it was to support my suggestion to the OP on why he shouldn't start cheating on his wife with his student.

Is this a forum where we have to encourage one to cheat?
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It's relevant, but it's such a big side-topic. It might overwhem the original thread. You said you were screwed for life, but you didn't say why. If you do, I'm pretty sure you will get a lot of responses.
 
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TAG_Member said:
I don't understand your point. I was answering a question that was asked. If you are referring to why I brought my experience up, it was to support my suggestion to the OP on why he shouldn't start cheating on his wife with his student.

Is this a forum where we have to encourage one to cheat?
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It is not a forum to encourage cheating but it is a forum to exchange and share P4P information,
So if you think P4P is the worst hobby you picked up then you should just try to quit,
isnt that the logical course of action you would take?
As you mentioned you are only doing it once or twice per year so why not just stop it all together?

And see with your "side-topic" this thread everyone in the last responds are all quoting your statement rather than the OP question.
 
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