About Nanpa AND Sugar Dating

[Frenchy]

Internet dating is not so good I believe
I do not know how many nice gals in their 20s use SA in Japan

So far, the only good advice that has come from users in this forum is to do this at night in bars and avenues and not during the day

I used SA and been overall very happy with the results so far. Even when I met ladies for just a "get-to-know-you-no-string-attached" drink or meal, it allowed me to weed out the ones that were not a good fit , for a low initial cost.

 

[Lucas7373]

Four significant (more than a couple of dates) Japanese SBs (also a good number of gaijin and halfs) in a period of five years. I don't recall the details of financial arrangements with each and wouldn't post them if I did, but I think they all started out at JPY50,000 for a full evening and sometimes overnight or all day date...which is roughly mid-market for the sort of SBs I seek, as best I can judge.

-Ww

Four in five years is not that impressive to me
I mean, this means less than a new girl per year
Also, 50000 yen for a one-time sex is way over market prices
You can have delivery health to your home for 16000

 

[Lucas7373]

You know a place in Shinjuku? If so I do agree, it should be you who gives us advice! Could you set up a seminar or something so we could learn from your experiences from your many years in Japan?

Strawberry Jam
https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/shibuya-strawberry-jam-ストローべりジャム.7136/

11000 for 30 minutes
Pay 5000 more ahnd you get full sex

 

[Lucas7373]

You guys are ruining the market by over paying girls

 

[User#8628]

Strawberry Jam
https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/shibuya-strawberry-jam-ストローべりジャム.7136/

11000 for 30 minutes
Pay 5000 more ahnd you get full sex

I have not seen reviews of people getting FS at SJ before.

You guys are ruining the market by over paying girls

Hah! But you are paying 15.000 for 30 minutes.

So if someone pays 50.000 for spending 4 hours with a girl he gets a CHEAPER deal on time than you!

 

[TokyoML]

You guys are ruining the market by over paying girls

I think YOU are overpaying! 5K at Kirari deai cafe for FS 1-2 hours if you are lucky.
Heck, it's FREE, if you have mad PUA skills like Sinapse.

Basically, there is a market for every category.
Why do some people shop at Uniqlo/GU whereas some people shop at Hermes? No need to judge.

 

[User#8628]

For anyone interested, i briefly went to kirari honten in Shinjuku yesterday and it was absolutele shit from the girl's perspective. There were very little callers so i left shortly.
The majority of girls was not attractive, but i saw one girl i found VERY pretty, and she didn't get a lot of talk immediately as far as i could see. There were a few girls i found reasonably cute although they also left shortly, but i didn't see if they got called or left on their own but i wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.

Weekday evening on a rainy day seems to be a good time if you want to beat competition from other men.

 

[User#8628]

So OP, if you get your ends met at strawberry jam, why all this drama?
Just keep going there.
I know its not close to your house but you cant have everything.

Maybe if you really hit it off with one of the strawberry girls, you can ask her to come over to your house after her shifts for a little extra payment. You should be able to give her more than her shop cut for one client, so if she's willing to travel the distance she might.

 

[Lucas7373]

I think YOU are overpaying! 5K at Kirari deai cafe for FS 1-2 hours if you are lucky.
Heck, it's FREE, if you have mad PUA skills like Sinapse.

Basically, there is a market for every category.
Why do some people shop at Uniqlo/GU whereas some people shop at Hermes? No need to judge.

So you compare the girls you meet in Sugar Daddy site to Hermes Bags?
Really?

 

[Lucas7373]

So OP, if you get your ends met at strawberry jam, why all this drama?
Just keep going there.
I know its not close to your house but you cant have everything.

Maybe if you really hit it off with one of the strawberry girls, you can ask her to come over to your house after her shifts for a little extra payment. You should be able to give her more than her shop cut for one client, so if she's willing to travel the distance she might.

No drama and feel free to ignore my posts if you feel too..
Few points
1) as I told you, Shijuku is about 1.2 hours from my house
One or two times I was there girls were crappy
The one who was fairly decent was willing to come out
.. but NO sex please! she said. I wonder this is the rule

As a note, why a girl would go to a kirari shop?

 

[Wwanderer]

Four in five years is not that impressive to me
I mean, this means less than a new girl per year

Impressing you was not my goal, just answering your question, but in any case, note that the 4 count only full Japanese SBs and only met via SA. I met ther SBs via SA and other Japanese SBs by other means (UC).

In any case, I thought your envelope scheme was aimed at finding you just one regular and dirt cheap source of FS from an attractive/hot Japanese girl. But now you want numbers too? Seriously?

Also, 50000 yen for a one-time sex is way over market prices

Did you miss that I said full evening and often longer dates. It may be over market if you care only about the sex, but I get much much more than just sex from my SBs, and (I hope) they get much more than just money from me.

You can have delivery health to your home for 16000

Been there, done that...nothing wrong with it but now seems pretty dull and routine to me compared to the rivhness of a good sugar connection.

-Ww

 

[User#6517]

OP:

 

[Wwanderer]

OP:

I think you may have nailed it!

-Ww

 

[namae]

I am going to vacations on the 1st abnd have a date with a Russian on the 31st and wuith the Wild Taiwanese on the 30th
So I am definitely trying the envelope thing, Early september, with no more than 15 envelopes. Let s see

September.

I think you may miss the boat. I think the Envelope fad will have died by then.

My crew have been licking envelopes for the last 3 days. They are starting to whine about the taste. Had to appease them with a bag of marshmallows.

 

[Wwanderer]

So if someone pays 50.000 for spending 4 hours with a girl he gets a CHEAPER deal on time than you!

Often longer and rarely shorter too.

But the OP has repeatedly mentioned that he imagines the girl he finds with his envelope scheme leaving his place within 45-50 minutes of arriving, pretty much staying just long enough to have sex with him. His OP also complained that some of his previous Japanese GFs were too high maintence. He may well be one of those guys who prefers not to have the company of women except for sexual purposes. Just my speculation...

-Ww

 

[Lucas7373]

Impressing you was not my goal, just answering your question, but in any case, note that the 4 count only full Japanese SBs and only met via SA. I met ther SBs via SA and other Japanese SBs by other means (UC).

In any case, I thought your envelope scheme was aimed at finding you just one regular and dirt cheap source of FS from an attractive/hot Japanese girl. But now you want numbers too? Seriously?



Did you miss that I said full evening and often longer dates. It may be over market if you care only about the sex, but I get much much more than just sex from my SBs, and (I hope) they get much more than just money from me.



Been there, done that...nothing wrong with it but now seems pretty dull and routine to me compared to the rivhness of a good sugar connection.

-Ww

Sure I am sure they go out with you for your blue eyes
No, absolutely, money is a secondary reason to go out with you, I am pretty sure they would go out with you if instead of paying 50000 yen for the date you paid 50yen
I do not think I ever paid 50000 for a date for a woman ever nor I have ever heard of anyone paying that much
Maybe the girls from SA have a golden vagina or something like that..

September.

I think you may miss the boat. I think the Envelope fad will have died by then.

My crew have been licking envelopes for the last 3 days. They are starting to whine about the taste. Had to appease them with a bag of marshmallows.

It looks that some people here pay money and envelopes are the only thing they are able to lick, if you know what I mean

In any case, guys, thank for the help (or non-help) so far and good luck to you.
I think I will stop my discussion here

After all, differently from MikeH I am not the boss of a big company with hours and hours available to talk here, I just have a small normal job and little time available and cant use it all to listen to your very insightful advices here

Regards

 

[Wwanderer]

Sure I am sure they go out with you for your blue eyes
No, absolutely, money is a secondary reason to go out with you, I am pretty sure they would go out with you if instead of paying 50000 yen for the date you paid 50yen

Fwiiw, more than one of them refused to take any money at all from me after the relationship matured a bit...despite my pushing them to accept my financial support.

I do not think I ever paid 50000 for a date for a woman ever nor I have ever heard of anyone paying that much

In lots and lots of TAG reviews, mongers report paying A LOT more than 50,000 for single dates. There are also escort ads on TAG frequently that quote minimum date fees of well over 50000. You clearly haven't even started doing your homework on the p4p market.

-Ww

 

[Frenchy]

Often longer and rarely shorter too.

But the OP has repeatedly mentioned that he imagines the girl he finds with his envelope scheme leaving his place within 45-50 minutes of arriving, pretty much staying just long enough to have sex with him. His OP also complained that some of his previous Japanese GFs were too high maintence. He may well be one of those guys who prefers not to have the company of women except for sexual purposes. Just my speculation...

-Ww

I still think it's possible on SA if he mentions 100k/month for 8 times / month for very short "dates" (less than 1 hour each) at the lady's chosen dates and times IF the lady kinda likes him and lives close to his place and if he's not too picky looks- and skills-wise.

... but then again the envelopes strategy might yield better results. Who knows. Who cares?

 

[Wwanderer]

I still think it's possible on SA if he mentions 100k/month for 8 times / month for very short "dates" (less than 1 hour each) at the lady's chosen dates and times IF the lady kinda likes him and lives close to his place and if he's not too picky looks- and skills-wise.

I agree. It takes time, effort and sometimes luck, but almost everything even remotely reasonable is available on SA and some things that are not. But you gotta find them first.

-Ww

 

[Wwanderer]

In lots and lots of TAG reviews, mongers report paying A LOT more than 50,000 for single dates.

Just to document this claim a little:

https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/review-j-blair.10177/

https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/very-fun-time-with-j-blair.10365/

https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/kitty-and-emma.9274/

https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/the-curious-adventure-of-kitty-and-the-tree.8260/

What's the highest single date fee you TAGers ever recall being reported in a review on the site?

-Ww

 

[MikeH]

OP:

Come on, that was not fair! I mean at least I am learning so much from TAG the last days. I don't know if you have heard it but there are apparently girls in Shibuya AND now a fashion health place in Shinjuku! That's just crazy! Who would have known?

I don't really know if I can absorb this much information in this short time. It's so wonderful that these Japan old timers are sharing their wisdom with us losers.

 

[MikeH]

I think I will stop my discussion here

Promises, promises.

After all, differently from MikeH I am not the boss of a big company with hours and hours available to talk here, I just have a small normal job and little time available and cant use it all to listen to your very insightful advices here

You said you own a company? If you cannot choose yourself what you do with your time then it's the other way around: your company owns you.

 

[Wwanderer]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/0...ng-sugarbaby-banned-from-florida-beaches.html

Perhaps relevant.

-Ww

 

[MikeH]

Perhaps relevant.

He should have used envelopes!

 

[raoxi]

For anyone interested, i briefly went to kirari honten in Shinjuku yesterday and it was absolutele shit from the girl's perspective. There were very little callers so i left shortly.
The majority of girls was not attractive, but i saw one girl i found VERY pretty, and she didn't get a lot of talk immediately as far as i could see. There were a few girls i found reasonably cute although they also left shortly, but i didn't see if they got called or left on their own but i wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.

Weekday evening on a rainy day seems to be a good time if you want to beat competition from other men.

Wouldnt the rainy day mean less girls too? What about a typhoon day like today lol