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To finish my trip to Tokyo I decided to give Sora a go. I booked a 2hr for the evening. She arrived 10 minutes early, not a problem. The first encounter was a little strange. She is not very talkative and it took a while to warm up to her. She has limited english skills and she is shy or at least not really bubbly. After 15 minutes of chit chat, I had to initiate for us to take a shower. She had to turn the lights down before undressing. Once in the shower, I got to take a good look at her. I am not to hot on the fake blonde style, but her body is heaven. She does have some very small breast with nipples that are really nice to play with (big and soft). Her bottom, hips and legs fit the package well. She is petite but not a skeleton, she has muscles and a nice toned tummy. She is fully shaved with some really nice pussy lips.
The shower was really good, she had fun trying to make me cum with a soppy hand job, really nicely done.
We then went to lay in bed. At that point I had to take charge as she is content with simply laying there. Once I started kissing her body, she turned on. She is heaven for DATY. He clit is really easy to find and arouse, she likes is gentle, really soft but she gets wet, really wet. She could have taken the whole cession receiving (I should have asked her to pay :) ). I had to have her directed to take charge for the FS session. I have been punting a bit to much, so it took some hand work to get me going. She was good at it. FS was excellent, she can put a squeeze on and let you just come really close, then let go. This was really good.
We did some hugging, but no deep kissing, she is definitively not a first time kisser.

Overall I would rate her average to not so good for company, she is way to passive and takes to much time to warm up. Compare to the other experiences that I had this trip, she is at the bottom of the pile in term of feeling connected. Body wise she is top notch. Face and hair are not something that I liked, so I would not rate her well on that, but this is a matter of taste. DATY and responsiveness, she is top, she can really get turned on, maybe a little to much on taken her own pleasure.
in summary, it was a nice one time dance, but I would not repeat unless she was the only one available.
 
I met Sora some time ago, and I had a really disatisfying encounter with her, for some of the same reasons loulou_fisher cites above. She wanted to be totally passive, and it seemed like kissing and intimacy were all so distasteful to her. I was really surprised by my experience, because all the reviews I've seen on TAG for Sora have been really good. Some people here *really* like her, and I couldn't figure out how my experience could have been so different. So, I haven't said anything up to now.

After reading the review above, I decided that maybe it's not just me. I went and looked back through some of her other reviews, and realized there have been some hints about the passivity, but I guess I missed them. Then, I realized something that I guess I've known for some time now: you can't just read *what* the reviewer says; you have to look at *who* is writing the review, and try to put things into context based on the style and inferred personal preferences of that writer. And then you have to figure out if you are enough like the writer that you will feel similarly.

Obviously, we are all different. We have different expectations, different wants, different turn-ons, etc. One person can look at a woman and say, "she is *so* hot!" and someone else can look at the same woman and say, "what are *you* smoking?". It's so subjective. So, I'm not dissing those who gave Sora glowing reviews, but for me, she does not warrant even a neutral report. On the contrary, my impression is quite negative.

Rather than go into all the details, here are the problems:

- totally passive, would not take the intiative on anything
- won't kiss
- hands at side, stiff and detached in bed
- when I asked what was wrong, she said all first dates are like this (?!)
- when I said it wasn't going to work and got up to get dressed, she got nasty with me

I can see, in retrospect, that the failure had in part to do with my own (apparently unrealistic) expectations. If I'm paying a girl for GFE, I want her to participate willingly, enthusiastically, and skillfully. If she doesn't like me, I get it, sometimes you just don't click. I'd prefer she just say that up front, and we can go our separate ways before any damage is done.

But if we're going through with it (and she's taking my money), I want a mutually warm encounter. I want to make love. I want to make her feel really, *really* good, and I want/expect her to try to do the same for me. I didn't get the impression that Sora can fill that particular bill, and based on what loulou_fisher says, I don't think I'm the only one who will come away wanting after seeing Sora.

So, when you read a glowing review from me, think about what I said above regarding my desires/expectations, and know that any girl I'm positively reviewing met them (and you at least have a *chance* that she'll do the same for you). If you're not like me in terms of what you want/expect, then find others you *are* more like, and rely on their reviews instead. So simple! Wish I would have figured this out sooner.
 
I agree that reviews are highly subjective. We're all different, and this applies both to punters and to working girls.

I am one reviewer mentioned above who has written glowing reports on Sora in the past and will continue to do so hopefully well into the future. Her passivity is a big plus point for me. Sometimes I prefer an active girl, other times I want to take control and Sora willingly allows me to exercise this release. She likes to be taken, her responsiveness to which is more than apparent. As for kissing, its something to lead her towards over a number of encounters. Though she was reluctant at first, we freely kiss on our dates these days, with delicate touches and gentle tongues. It's a huge turn on NOT to have your face eaten alive!

A closing thought on this reference to 'making love' which keeps cropping up hereabouts, particularly with regard to GFE. Are you kidding, or have you simply never 'made love'? We pay for SEX - discrete, no strings, no questions asked, SEX - with a little pleasant chit-chat and female companionship thrown in. Then we each return to our separate lives. It has nothing to do with 'love', which is an over-used and thereby under-appreciated word.

Sure, we're all different, but seriously guys, can you not tell the difference between a lifelong labour of love and a once-a-month hobby? Jeez!
 
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A closing thought on this reference to 'making love' which keeps cropping up hereabouts, particularly with regard to GFE. Are you kidding, or have you simply never 'made love'? We pay for SEX - discrete, no strings, no questions asked, SEX - with a little pleasant chit-chat and female companionship thrown in. Then we each return to our separate lives. It has nothing to do with 'love', which is an over-used and thereby under-appreciated word.

Sure, we're all different, but seriously guys, can you not tell the difference between a lifelong labour of love and a once-a-month hobby? Jeez!
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With due respect, *you* pay for what you just described. I pay for what *I* just described. I am paying for an erotic interlude, preferably with someone I can really connect with. Trust me, it really can be more than just disconnected, no strings attached sex. I agree that this is not love, but it is certainly more than impersonal sex, which leaves me feeling empty and unsatisfied. And yes, this does seem to be quite different from what you want.

There is no criticism intended in my reply, so I hope you don't take this the wrong way. I still admire some of your exploits :) And I figured out a long time ago that you are looking for something quite different than I am. That's fine. No worries.

The good news is, we both seem to be finding what we are looking for in many cases. Onward!
 
To make an obvious point, our mileages vary not only because different guys like different things but also because different guys often receive different services and attitudes from the same escort. In other words, what happens depends on who you are as well as who she is. There are obvious extreme examples of this, such as guys with poor hygiene or disrespectful behavior, who are not treated as well by an escort for obvious reasons. (To be clear, I am NOT NOT NOT suggesting that anything like that is involved here.) But there are also a host of more subtle and often difficult to perceive ways in which the interaction between an escort and her customer can go better or worse, can produce a warmer and better p4p experience or not. And they often have nothing to do with bad or improper behavior on either side of the bed; it is more like the commercial sex version of chemistry or "clicking" in np4p relationships or, for that matter, ordinary friendships. Sometimes you just don't mesh with another person easily, making everything feel awkward, and other times it is graceful and natural feeling.

-Ww
 
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This is why it's good to have reviews from various perspectives. Some will have the same tastes as some reviewers and others will have radically different expectations.

The more the merrier, which paints a more honest picture of the provider being reviewed. We appreciate those that share their experiences, thank you!
 
kitsune said:
Rather than go into all the details, here are the problems:

- totally passive, would not take the intiative on anything
- won't kiss
- hands at side, stiff and detached in bed
- when I asked what was wrong, she said all first dates are like this (?!)
- when I said it wasn't going to work and got up to get dressed, she got nasty with me

I can see, in retrospect, that the failure had in part to do with my own (apparently unrealistic) expectations. If I'm paying a girl for GFE, I want her to participate willingly, enthusiastically, and skillfully. If she doesn't like me, I get it, sometimes you just don't click. I'd prefer she just say that up front, and we can go our separate ways before any damage is done.
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No, I don´t think you pay for GFE, and neither can you. Legally you pay for her being there. Implied, you pay for the sex. The GFE is great if it happens, but I don´t think it is something you can buy. That is why people talk about clicking. Sometimes, two people click, and sometimes they don´t. I think that is just something you have to live with.

I am curious though what you mean by "she got nasty with me". Nasty how? From all the descriptions I have read here, she is petite, quiet and rather timid. What kind of nastiness are you talking about?
 
This will be my last post in this thread, just wanted to tie a few things off. First, I almost always have really nice GFE experiences with AM girls, and in the rare case that I've had a complaint (like this one), Dave went out of his way to be fair, to try to make things right. I've also had really nice GFE interactions with a few independents (Sayuri, Kitty, Manami). You can tell me what I can't buy, but (thankfully!) that won't stop me from buying it :)

Second, I've said in a previous thread that I think these girls have a very difficult job, and that we can't expect them to click with everyone. And, as Ww points out, chemistry varies by client. It might even vary by day, depending on what is going on in both of your lives. A meeting is a snapshot, a single data point. If we don't like what we see/feel when the girl shows up, we have the right to cancel (typically for a small fee). I only wish the girls could cancel if/when they are not feeling it. I guess the complexities make that unrealistic.

Finally, as Chris noted, and as I noted in my original response: every reviewer is looking for different things, so being aware of that provides us with more information, a more honest picture. That's the whole point of posting/reading here. And that's why I said what I said about my preferences above. If you don't keep this in mind when you are reading, you (like me) might miss subtle evidence of what may be show-stoppers for you.
 
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kitsune said:
This will be my last post in this thread, just wanted to tie a few things off.
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OK, but can you just explain what you mean by saying "she got nasty" with you? I just trying to understand. You mean she started arguing? Throwing things? Just seems so strange.
 
I've seen Sora a few times and the experiences were extremely varied. One time she was very friendly & passionate, though admittedly passive. Another time she was clearly having a bad day and not much fun at all. However I did think her English was quite good. Kissing was definitely sub par, which is sadly common in Japan.
 
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