Another silly hang-up / grievance about SBs

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  1. Frenchy

    FrenchyFrenchy is a Verified Member Peace, Love and Camembert

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    Ok so again I use TAG for free psychoanalysis purposes I guess... Sorry in advance

    those girls, really... (and I mean absolutely all of those I dated , no exceptions) ... do they think they fool anyone when posting on their Insta or FB about the nice places SDs bring them to, or gifts they received?

    it is more than obvious that there are sponsors behind all this (sometimes even taking the pic), yet it doesn’t seem to hit their minds that people will know it, and probably look down on them as just lucky , spoiled sugar bimbos

    Now this is where I need a shrink : I’m pissed off that I am NOT on those pics (like, I paid so it should be my right or something, at least a little thank you mention wouldn’t hurt, lol...).

    ... but I’m also pissed off in the (very rare) occasions they want me on it . To be honest it happened only once : the Brazilian SB whose philosophy was « the allowance is just a donation, for the rest it’s like we are real GF/BF » (she didn’t last long :D)

    WTF is wrong with me?!
     
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    I've never had a SB nor will ever have one but if you're not an actual boyfriend I think it's strange for you to be in the pic with the gift whether it's a thank you mention or something more
     
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    Discretion I think is the best way to explain it. Papakatsu has been going on here wayyy longer than you and I have been playing the game. How do you think 95% of high school girls get LV bags???
    Don't let it bother you is my advice. It it affects you that much then stop playing unless it's like a paint thinner habit
     
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  4. Frenchy

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    yes: « simple » solution, get a true companion I don’t need to pay, who doesn’t mind having me on the pic, and vice versa
    Even better , no social media at all :)
     
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    FrenchyFrenchy is a Verified Member Peace, Love and Camembert

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    Of course its strange, I agree with that. So why it bothers me (in both cases) is beyond me :hungover:
     
  6. MikeH

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    Would you like to have the full list right now? :p
     
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    Abridged version please
     
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    It’s worse for guys that starts dating a girl here who finds out none of the photos of him & her ever reach her social media profile.
     
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    Why do you even care?

    And why on earth do you even check your SB social media. Any connection on Soc Med is another connection back to you, one that needs to be deleted once the inevitable break up comes.

    With my SB I have their Line and phone number only. We contact by Line only. I don't want to know anymore.
     
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    FrenchyFrenchy is a Verified Member Peace, Love and Camembert

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    Well, after a week or month its still too soon, after a year together it starts to be a tad insulting , but after 20 years of marriage its totally normal again :ROFLMAO:
     
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    true, I have probably this weird mindset that memories spent with me (and , to be clear, spent BY me) are in a way ... copyrighted or something like that. Hard to explain. It doesn’t have much to do with the girl herself, or what she does when Im not with her. It all has to do with my neurotic fixation on not being screwed (in a bad way), dismissed, disrespected, taken advantage of etc
     
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    You need to be more cynical. Cut through all the BS and delusion....it is all about money and sex.
     
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    Lol... if so , then I spent wayyy too much money (and/or didn’t get enough sex) :D
    No , I still get the concept of paying for companionship which is sexual but not only that, I’m fine with it. And obviously I’m not the only one.

    But you make a good point about being more cynical. Not with the girls (I’ve been awfully cynical with many of them). With the money. Thats harder for me. I should not think it has some kind of magickal value giving some kind of access to stuff which can’t be measured monetarily (and no I don’t mean the L word ... but all the stuff around respect, friendship, intimacy, honest communication, gratitude and such ... including keeping the travels and gifts I paid completely private)
    Not sure I’m clear. But what it means basically is that I can pay less and expect less of that stuff that can’t be bought anyway , and its all the better.

    Current dates with my Filipina sweetheart cost 20k. Less than half what I paid to others. She stays overnight coz she wants it, I don’t even ask her. Sex is great. And I don’t give a shit about her social media presence.

    Ok end of therapy. Now I know the mistake I made. Thanks everybody!
     
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    Actually I’m really pissed off at people who share high tea photos on their Instagram.

    Here is an example from Google images:

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    It’s nearly impossible to finish this set because there are just too many calories. I’ve actually once asked a hotel staff if there’s anyone who was able to consume everything on display, he laughed and said “no ma’am”. I couldn’t help but ask him what they do with the leftovers and he said they simply throw them away.
    What a waste.

    In recent years there is a lot of focus on social media and influencer culture. A lot of teenagers nowadays dream of becoming an influencer but personally the more you scream “I’m an influencer” the less credibility you have. I don’t have anything against creative people being trendsetters and having original ideas, but a lot of young people are just systematically copying poses, posts, outfits and lifestyle. As if there’s a template for social media success the same plate is served again and again. Posting expensive designer items or taking pictures in luxurious places can get you attention on social media.

    Escort business on the other hand: I only post my “escort” dinners and “escort” gifts on Switter and occasionally on TAG, where everyone already knows what I do. Yeah perhaps it’s a bit cringeworthy for some people but I’d like to show gratitude for my generous clients and marketing wise I’d like to be seen as an active escort. (Some potential clients look for an online presence before booking a companion. I can’t highlight that enough. )

    I would never post lavish dinners or gifts on my social media because my friends are intelligent people who could put two and two together ;) Maybe some ladies are open about their secret life so it’s not a secret anymore, but I still have a conservative social circle.

    Tbh it’s a bizarre request to ask to be on those photos :) A lot of clients seek discretion and I can’t think of anyone who’d be happy to be posted on my switter. I’m even careful to not include any personal items in those photos to protect the identity of my client.
     
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    Thanks! Very sensible answer. Also I didn’t know about Switter, first I thought it was just a typo. Will check it out.

    of course I never ask to be on those pics , and when the Brazilian SB asked me I accepted reluctantly but didn’t like it. So here you go, another case of Frenchy cognitive dissonance ! :D

    I really can’t pinpoint what pisses me off here ... maybe the fact that since I paid for those memories I kinda « own » them (silly , I know) so either they should remain private , or at least I should not be made to feel like the shameful dirty secret who’s just here to pay for everything, take the pic , and have no say on how it’s used. Completely neurotic I know, but I noticed more than once that putting this type of ramblings on TAG and get everyone’s feedback often helps me to clarify the issue.

    I guess I just don’t like people who boast about stuff which at the end of the day is just due to their benefactors’ efforts and generosity
     
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    Good answer. From my perspective, seeing little gifts like chocolates, gift cards, etc posted by the escort make her seem 'classier' to me. But posting really big tips/gifts (well over $200) kinda throws off the classy vibe, idk why.
     
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    From an escort’s purely marketing point of view , I can get the idea though.
    It’s not so much about bragging to the whole world « hey look at the cool dress/ hotel room/ dinner etc I have » out of pure vanity .
    Its more like, for a targeted audience only, « some clients splurge this on me so I must be worth it , wink wink» . Which in my book at least, is much smarter (not necessarily more « moral » but hey, we’re on TAG, not a Christian Values forum)

    Also don’t underestimate the MALE vanity. How many times I had silly thoughts like « ok this guy brought her to X restaurant, I will bring her to Y which is much better because Im better than him ». Typically my train of thoughts re. the Ukrainian model SB. Sick ego-shit nonsense I know, but on some competitive guys it works. I hate myself when I get down to that level by the way.
     
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    I think guys are even worse than girls; because they try to pretend they don't care about what the other guys do but fail so bad.
     
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    Sad but true :( . And some ladies are really good at playing those chords.
     
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    That's true too though I think with our competitive minds we usually do it all to ourselves. Girl just need to make a passing reference to something we think they did with some guy previously and we go to full crazy mode. :p

    Girl: "Yeah, I was once there, the food was good" after she has visited a restaurant with a female friend
    Guy in his head "I am going to take you to a restaurant that is five times more expensive!"

    Girl: "Once I came so hard I felt dizzy" and forgets to say "alone with my toy"
    Guy in his head "I am going to fuck you so hard you will die!"

    :ROFLMAO:
     
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    ah ah, spot on
    It started at a very early age for me
    Like ... 4 or 5 year old, still in kindergarden
    Another boy and I were in love with the same girl
    He gave her a 5 francs coin
    So to beat him I tried to steal one of my mum’s rings (she caught me doing it , which led to a very awkward confession)
    Eventually my mum erupted in laughter when I told her which girl it was: the local head of police’s daughter.
    that was my first , failed and traumatic, attempt at P4P I guess :D
     
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    Well, you got that first attempt over in an early age which should give you a great advantage! :p

    My first was in much more advanced age and I guess she was not a daughter of a cop as she stole my monies. Maybe she should just have told me how much she stole from the guy before and I would have gone "I can get more stolen from me" :ROFLMAO:
     
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    I'm curious. Maybe @Frenchy could be just excellent in nampa for which he doesn't have to pay even a yen. Why does he have to be a SD who are supposed to be "generous" in a relation dynamics by definition?

    I have to be a SD because otherwise I am super unattractive...I appreciate that SBs just meet me even if it doesn't involve sex...yeah, this is a rant of a 4th-tier player.
     
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    Oh come on.

    Seriously guys.

    I’ve left you a sympathy like Ken :p But pls pull yourself together.
     
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  25. Frenchy

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    Thats what your mind tricks you into thinking ... and even if you’re not young / don’t have a 6- pack / don’t look like Brad Pitt or whatever ... truth is you probably could find a « normal » partner anyway. But if you’re honest with yourself , you don’t just want a « normal » partner, you want the young and beautiful and sexy one, right? :D

    As for me I made peace with wanting to be with ladies who are way more attractive than me and getting to be with them by paying them. But it’s not only that. Yeah I could probably nampa . In fact I even still get « nampaed » by women from time to time. And men too.
    I’m still looking OK. Would be better with 10kg less but I also like good food...

    But first even in a « nampa » context , as the man, you are still expected to pay , often more than a few yens (dinners, trips, gifts etc). My Chinese/Aussie SB who did not want cash for herself ended up being one of the most expensive (had to fly her from Sydney, for a start)

    Second you’re expected to somehow « perform ». And as I sometimes subtly hinted here (ok... I talk about it half of the time! :)) I have size issues and increasingly erection anxieties... plus Im a lazy selfish motherfucker who enjoys it when the lady has to impress me, not the other way round. And sometimes I want kinky stuff that a normal partner may not be willing to provide. Or being able to talk dirty without risking to lose the relationship etc etc

    Finally normal relationships are harder to break if the lady (or myself) becomes a pain in the ass. With P4P its simple, just say you’re broke, they will leave you alone quickly and without a fuss :) (Ok it has often not been that simple but purely because I wanted to inflict pain when I felt wronged... and yes such nasty emotions can happen with SBs too)

    I could think of other reasons why I prefer to pay , but currently I also have more and more reasons not to... so yeah I may end up in a normal relationship again. Which also means at some point of time to get this fucking divorce done...
     
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