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Yes, I have read all the posts to date but things change over time so... if anyone is currently using UC I would be very interested in your current perspective. I am thinking of checking it out. SA seems more of a cyber adventure which I don’t have the interest, time, or energy for. If you are using UC can you let me know how it is working out for you?
 
Sorry, I can't really help I'm afraid but this is a question that I would also be interested in knowing the answer to as well.

On a slightly different, but related, note I was just reading another earlier thread started by Wwanderer where he mentioned that were some other alternatives to UC that worked in the same way:-

1 - I agree that UC is in the upscale part of the Tokyo market (though not at the top)

Emphasis added

And I was just curious to know, given the prices that UC charge, what other services there are in Tokyo that might be actually "at the top"?
 
Sorry, I can't really help I'm afraid but this is a question that I would also be interested in knowing the answer to as well.

On a slightly different, but related, note I was just reading another earlier thread started by Wwanderer where he mentioned that were some other alternatives to UC that worked in the same way:-



Emphasis added

And I was just curious to know, given the prices that UC charge, what other services there are in Tokyo that might be actually "at the top"?
Well, there are other "kosai clubs" in Japan that are even more fancy. They often dont have any foreign members, either because they dont accept them or because they are not trying to actively recruit them.

I agree that with paying the member's fee, the date setting fee and the girl's fee, kosai clubs may look like the most upscale service. But if you find one SB and stick with her, the whole deal would likely be cheaper than visiting a high end soapland several times a month.

As for UC, i still have a profile on there and from what i know, some things have changed but the general idea is still the same. However, since i'm on the other side of the picture, i'm not sure if its still exactly the same for guys. I think someone mentioned on TAG that more and more girls are not the "want to proceed on the first date" type, and their introduction of the "looking for marriage" category struck me as kind of weird. Who's gonna look for a wife that way, thats pretty sure to attract gold diggers.
 
Well, there are other "kosai clubs" in Japan that are even more fancy. They often dont have any foreign members, either because they dont accept them or because they are not trying to actively recruit them.

Thank you. I've come across that term before but didn't realise what it meant. After doing a bit of searching, I googled the term 交際 クラブ and it came back with 700,000 results. I didn't realise there were quite so many websites that either are or that talk about kosai clubs!
 
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i'm just wondering....
can any woman sign up to this 'club' ?
do guys get to see face pics before meeting?
I heard higher membership level gives you access to 'higher tier' women... who ranks the women?
 
i'm just wondering....
can any woman sign up to this 'club' ?
do guys get to see face pics before meeting?
I heard higher membership level gives you access to 'higher tier' women... who ranks the women?
Yes. Only the male club members can see the face pictures, but the girls generally have clear pictures of their face on their profile, unless they are famous.

The staff who register the women rank them, although as a woman you can request being places in a higher rank (although it most likely means getting less dates). Ranking is mostly based on conventional attractiveness. Being famous usually gives top ranking.
 
Being famous usually gives top ranking.

There are four rankings. There are quite a few former AV actresses in the two middle rankings, a couple idols in the lowest ranking, and former gravure models in the higher middle ranking.

Some of TAGs favorite [Redacted] girls are in the second lowest ranking and one [Redacted]/AV actress in the second highest.
 
There are four rankings. There are quite a few former AV actresses in the two middle rankings, a couple idols in the lowest ranking, and former gravure models in the higher middle ranking.

Some of TAGs favorite [Redacted] girls are in the second lowest ranking and one [Redacted]/AV actress in the second highest.
I stand corrected. But maybe then again, they could have requested a lower ranking because they didn't get enough dates for their liking. Like i said, the management chooses, but the girl has some say in it.

I'm second highest ranking, never made a request to change it up or down. :)
 
Really? I thought it was visible on the girl's own profile, but i havent logged in for a while. Anyway, some guys are not ashamed to mention how much they paid to set up a date.

The guys are told firmly to never show the girls their profile or the website. The girls do seem to be clueless about their profiles. The reason given by the club is to protect the girl’s egos, not the guy’s.
 
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I've been a member of UC for 3 years and I can tell you that there have been some changes as follows:
1. Dating Type change - they removed the number system which showed you what the girl expected for her "room" fee as it was too much like escorting "D" class was the one.
2. They changed "E" class to marriage minded when in the past it used to be Straight Up escorting - so I think this hurts the girls in this level unless they are really serious about finding a potential marriage partner
3. They made the men change profile names to fake names.
4. There used to be a feedback system for the girls to comment on the guys, but guys don't have access so I never saw it.
5. Recently - last year - the number of D class has dropped while B and C have increased - which means more dates or "chemistry" if there is a chance for intimate encounter.
6. Seems the quality level of girls has reduced as well - just my opinion.
7. I was hard sold to upgrade to the Black Class for 200.000JPY and was told all the benefits, but to be honest, I can no see the value and return for this other than just feeling special and UC providing some special stuff like concierge and a private bar you can go to during the day to hang with free drinks
8. I've been on a few dates... over the past 3 years - some great and some terrible... after paying a setting fee, you need to pay for the evening - which is expected and not an issue, you need to pay the girl a transportation fee from 5,000 - 10,000JPY but there is no indication on what it is. Would be nice to know this in advance. I had one date flake out in Osaka - because it was raining... They told me they cancelled her membership after that.
All in all, I would say I've had an overall good experience, but the staff changes are continual and you have to get re-introduced each time... Tells me there is a management issue with the higher than expected turnover in their International Division.
I've made some suggestions to them to help improve the service but not sure they will be implemented. For example, if the girl says she can speak English regardless of level, then have a English video of her and English profile
If the girl has kanji characters for her name it means she is not foreigner friendly told by a staff member to me.
I haven't had much success on SA as well...
So if you are looking for a SB arrangement on UC I think you have a little bit better chance since they have been screened, but to be honest not sure how well that would help.
Their video's are shot the first visit by the girl, I suggested that they call them back so the girl is not so nervous.. I mean she is there to sign up and they say we shoot a video now, so you can tell that some are really nervous on this which is not a good representation of the girl IMO.

For the girl, she has no idea what the guy she is meeting looks like so it's a bit of a gamble on her part as well.
I think the photo's they take could be improved dramatically, lots of bad lighting or White outfit with white background - hard to see clearly... looks a bit amateurish.

Hope the above helps... If you have a crazy schedule and it's important to arrange a date when you are free, then this is a great service - providing the girl doesn't cancel or request a reschedule.
The Also have some meet and greet events but at 50,000JPY I think they are a little steep, but you can get many girls contact details so it saves setting fees - at least that is the appeal of this.
 
The guys are told firmly to never show the girls their profile or the website. The girls do seem to be clueless about their profiles. The reason given by the club is to protect the girl’s egos, not the guy’s.
You can log into your own profile, we all get a code for that. Cant see other profiles of girls and guys, but can see your own and write comments and post selfies.
 
I was just reading another earlier thread started by Wwanderer where he mentioned that were some other alternatives to UC that worked in the same way

Afaik, UC is the only one that explicitly caters to the English-speaking community, both the SBs and SDs. For the others you'd need to be fluent in Japanese at least, but even then many (all?) of them might not accept non-Japanese. So, for the most part, UC has a monopoly on the market represented on TAG. (To be clear, they also have an operation devoted to Japanese people.)

-Ww
 
I don't think all of them.
I have signed up for some other ones in the past and there were definitely a few glad to have me. One did ask me if i was ok seeing non Japanese guys so I assume that some are glad to have any business as long as they are able to communicate with the clients.

The thing with those clubs is that they are hit or miss when signing up (for example i didn't get any dates from the other one who asked if foreigners where ok for me), and that most of them go inactive after a few years, even if they have a very decent run at the start.
Universe Club is definitely one of the more stable ones.
 
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I have met and sugar dated some truly wonderful women I met via SA and others via UC. The former takes much more time while the latter takes much more money. Yet another example of “ time is money”,

In this context, it’s best to not “settle” on a potential SB when arranging a setting using UC. Although the number of members is daunting, it’s probably best to pick a single person that’s your type (looks/job/age/personality etc.), with a detailed profile that “ticks your boxes” and with the guidance of the staff, if necessary. By being extremely picky rather than taking a shotgun approach, you can reduce the financial investment and have more fun on average.

In contrast, the TAG members that found a great partner on SA screened many potential SBs themselves through online chatting and first dates.

One other significant difference seems to be that UC could be better to meet Japanese people with Japanese mindsets for Japanese style dating. SA might be better for a more western mindset.
 
you need to pay the girl a transportation fee from 5,000 - 10,000JPY

Probably best to give the girl 10,000 very discreetly almost immediately after meeting to leave her with the best impression, considering there might be a future relationship.

the number of D class has dropped while B and C have increased

It’s probably just as easy to have a relationship with B and C class SBs as it is with D class. D class SBs are less likely to be looking for an emotional connection and consistently ask to meet (1-2 times per month) in an almost pushy manner if things are going smoothly.
 
I've been a member of UC for 3 years and I can tell you that there have been some changes as follows:
1. Dating Type change - they removed the number system which showed you what the girl expected for her "room" fee as it was too much like escorting "D" class was the one.
2. They changed "E" class to marriage minded when in the past it used to be Straight Up escorting - so I think this hurts the girls in this level unless they are really serious about finding a potential marriage partner
3. They made the men change profile names to fake names.
4. There used to be a feedback system for the girls to comment on the guys, but guys don't have access so I never saw it.
5. Recently - last year - the number of D class has dropped while B and C have increased - which means more dates or "chemistry" if there is a chance for intimate encounter.
6. Seems the quality level of girls has reduced as well - just my opinion.
7. I was hard sold to upgrade to the Black Class for 200.000JPY and was told all the benefits, but to be honest, I can no see the value and return for this other than just feeling special and UC providing some special stuff like concierge and a private bar you can go to during the day to hang with free drinks
8. I've been on a few dates... over the past 3 years - some great and some terrible... after paying a setting fee, you need to pay for the evening - which is expected and not an issue, you need to pay the girl a transportation fee from 5,000 - 10,000JPY but there is no indication on what it is. Would be nice to know this in advance. I had one date flake out in Osaka - because it was raining... They told me they cancelled her membership after that.
All in all, I would say I've had an overall good experience, but the staff changes are continual and you have to get re-introduced each time... Tells me there is a management issue with the higher than expected turnover in their International Division.
I've made some suggestions to them to help improve the service but not sure they will be implemented. For example, if the girl says she can speak English regardless of level, then have a English video of her and English profile
If the girl has kanji characters for her name it means she is not foreigner friendly told by a staff member to me.
I haven't had much success on SA as well...
So if you are looking for a SB arrangement on UC I think you have a little bit better chance since they have been screened, but to be honest not sure how well that would help.
Their video's are shot the first visit by the girl, I suggested that they call them back so the girl is not so nervous.. I mean she is there to sign up and they say we shoot a video now, so you can tell that some are really nervous on this which is not a good representation of the girl IMO.

For the girl, she has no idea what the guy she is meeting looks like so it's a bit of a gamble on her part as well.
I think the photo's they take could be improved dramatically, lots of bad lighting or White outfit with white background - hard to see clearly... looks a bit amateurish.

Hope the above helps... If you have a crazy schedule and it's important to arrange a date when you are free, then this is a great service - providing the girl doesn't cancel or request a reschedule.
The Also have some meet and greet events but at 50,000JPY I think they are a little steep, but you can get many girls contact details so it saves setting fees - at least that is the appeal of this.

I’ve also been a member of UC for close to 3 years, and BB0523 describes the club, recent changes and my own experiences perfectly.

Membership of UC continues to work for me, and I’ve met some wonderful women, one of which has become a long term SB, but I do feel the club has sacrificed quality for quantity in recent times.
 
This is a timely thread. Guess I'll stick to SA for now. Thanks, all!
Me too. SA is more leg work but worth it if you manage to find just one great connection as I did.
 
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First off, thank you to All (esp. BB0523) for the interesting and educational info. I have been considering joining UC and might check it out thanks to this info.

I am sure this is in another thread, but let me ask here. What is the lure of getting a SB? Is it to find someone famous or an ex AV idol/actress?