Anyone interested in an iPhone 11?

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I used to love watching Apple product events and couldn't wait to get the newest iPhone they announced. These days I honestly don't feel like there is enough innovation between say an iPhone 6 and the just announced iPhone 11 to justify and upgrade. I just ordered a new iPhone 11 not because I want one, but because my SB has an iPhone SE with a bad battery and cracked screen and wants an X. So I get the 11 and she gets my X.

So, anyone else even interested in this thing for it's own features?

I'm pretty locked into the Apple ecosystem at present but are there ANY phones that can be said to be innovative like the iPhone used to be that might be worth checking out?
 
The 11 Pro’s photo features have me drooling, but in my situation owning one is a pipe dream.
 
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wraithfive said:
So, anyone else even interested in this thing for it's own features?
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That 512GB, Midnight Green iPhone 11 Pro Max beckons, but I’m still on the fence. I need to check it out in the Apple Store. Maybe next weekend.
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Not sure... gonna go play with one and see how it goes. I’ve not even looked at iOS 13 yet, so have to catch up.

Edit: It seems that a Japan specific model isn’t listed like it has been in the past.
 
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The cameras are worth the upgrade for me. And my battery is shit.

I won’t go Max size though because people like to peak over my shoulder and I don’t need them to see me browsing TAG or the ‘working today’ pages on city heaven of whatever shop I’m interested in. Lol.

Price wise I don’t even care at this point. I mean, who am I to argue it’s expensive when I’m blowing 4-5man at a time for just 2 hrs of p4p with various providers. Haha
 
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The “live” photo option let’s you skirt the shutter sound, with a much lighter sound that doesn’t sound like a picture being taken.
 
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The “live” photo option let’s you skirt the shutter sound, with a much lighter sound that doesn’t sound like a picture being taken.
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If you use a camera app like line camera, there is no shutter sound at all.

I just recently upgraded from 7 to XR as there was a system bug which was disconnecting me from data constantly.
The new 11 looks really ugly with the 3 cameras in the back :confused:
Reminds me of this :ROFLMAO:
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iPhone has always been dragging behind with the camera and screen resolution. I have a iPhone X but will switch to a galaxy next year. No point in buying a overpriced phone.

I saw the unveil and I laughed. Umm this was released on a galaxy and Huawei two years ago already. This phone does nothing new. I doubt it’s as powerful as they say.

However, I always tell people this:
If you have two or three apple products, you might as well stick with apple.
If iPhone is the only thing, get off of it. They are not solid phones and galaxy always seems to have a edge.
Huawei has some pretty cutting edge phones, but with the trade war it’s useless to buy one.
 
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A loud camera shutter noise when you take a pic. :snaphappy:
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I seriously thought this was a joke until @TAG Manager posted his link. Now I'm worried that this "feature" will be on all models if there is no Japan specific one. On the other hand, maybe that will mean my US phone will work with Suica now and I can skip carrying that card around on my next trip.

MisterYoda said:
However, I always tell people this:
If you have two or three apple products, you might as well stick with apple.
If iPhone is the only thing, get off of it. They are not solid phones and galaxy always seems to have a edge.
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It's the integration between products that makes the iPhone so nice for me. Between that and the fact that I really hate the interface on Android I'll be staying with Apple for a while. Android just seems to be annoyingly difficult to use whenever I try it out and I've yet to see any hardware that brings enough of an edge over iPhone to make it worth putting up with the OS.
 
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Indeed. Long gone are the days when I actually was waiting for the next phone announcement so I could get me a new one. It's not only because I am old, it's also because every phone is just the same.

Never owned an iPhone myself, the last Apple item I have bought for myself was Macintosh SE/30 but I do understand the lure; easy to use, difficult to fuck up.

Which is quite funny as incidentally I am just right now trying to fix an iPhone owned by a lovely lady that is in reboot loop. Not the lady, the phone I mean.
 
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All the cool designs you can come up with a triangle but you end up designing Wall-e’s special needs cousin with a congenital disease..
 
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wraithfive said:
I seriously thought this was a joke until @TAG Manager posted his link. Now I'm worried that this "feature" will be on all models if there is no Japan specific one. On the other hand, maybe that will mean my US phone will work with Suica now and I can skip carrying that card around on my next trip.



It's the integration between products that makes the iPhone so nice for me. Between that and the fact that I really hate the interface on Android I'll be staying with Apple for a while. Android just seems to be annoyingly difficult to use whenever I try it out and I've yet to see any hardware that brings enough of an edge over iPhone to make it worth putting up with the OS.
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What version of Android did you use? Most companies have Android installed with lots of bloatware (pre-installed apps u dont want and cant delete unless root)

A clean version of Android with simeji keyboard is just as smooth as iOS. It requires some tweaking but after that it's all freedom.

Torrenting your favourite show/movie in 1080p and instantly play the mkv file? Yes that's possible on Android. On iOS you need to download on your PC, convert the files to .mp4 (or whatever ios uses) and then transfer it with iTunes (pure cancer)

iOS has a superior keyboard compared to Android's default Gboard. Switching between en/ja is smooth and it has no learning curve. It works right out of the box. But is that really worth 1k?

Slightly offtopic but I bought a MacBook Air 11inch for 1400 euro in Netherlands and it died after 13months. Because I didn't buy extra warranty (according to EU law every company needs to provide 3 years of warranty) they charged me 600 euro to replace the motherboard. Rip off plain and simple. Haven't bought an Apple product after my 5S

Tl;dr choose android and unless your phone died you better wait for a phone that supports 5G.
 
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A clean version of Android with simeji keyboard is just as smooth as iOS. It requires some tweaking but after that it's all freedom.
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I like vanilla AOSP or CM/LineageOS on my android devices. But really the fair comparison of a tweaked android device is a jail broken iOS device. I find so much is lacking on the command line level of vanilla android though, relative to iOS.
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Torrenting your favourite show/movie in 1080p and instantly play the mkv file? Yes that's possible on Android. On iOS you need to download on your PC, convert the files to .mp4 (or whatever ios uses) and then transfer it with iTunes (pure cancer)
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Or just stream the show/movie. Lol.
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Tl;dr choose android and unless your phone died you better wait for a phone that supports 5G.
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5G is only relevant right now if your network supports it in the areas you frequent and you need the cellular throughput. As for speed, as long as the streaming porn sites I frequent load fast enough to not interrupt the wanking when moving to the next vid, I’m good. What more speed can I ask for. Haha.
MisterYoda said:
iPhone has always been dragging behind with the camera and screen resolution. I have a iPhone X but will switch to a galaxy next year. No point in buying a overpriced phone.

I saw the unveil and I laughed. Umm this was released on a galaxy and Huawei two years ago already. This phone does nothing new. I doubt it’s as powerful as they say.

However, I always tell people this:
If you have two or three apple products, you might as well stick with apple.
If iPhone is the only thing, get off of it. They are not solid phones and galaxy always seems to have a edge.
Huawei has some pretty cutting edge phones, but with the trade war it’s useless to buy one.
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After decades of being free tech support for friends and family who’ve jumped to a ‘better’ device that they weren’t used to nor comfortable with (mac vs pc, palm vs wince vs blackberry, android vs iOS) , I now just recommend whatever they’re most comfortable with at time of phone replacement need. It’s easier on them and the people they use as tech support because realistically any current phone is good enough nowadays. It’s all just individual preference.

Any real power user would be running both Android and iOS on multiple devices anyway that an argument for either/or is rather moot.

And anybody who needs pixelpeeper measurebator levels of camera/lens greatness, they’re running real DSLRs and/or mirrorless cameras rendering phone camera comparisons rather frivolous. It’s like arguing what’s the best fami restaurant around but in the end it’s still a fami restaurant. :LOL:
 
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Lasagna said:
A clean version of Android with simeji keyboard is just as smooth as iOS. It requires some tweaking but after that it's all freedom.
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I'm a developer so I've messed with all that. But I'm at a point in my life where I want some things just to work well enough out of the box. I don't want to have to constantly tweak and research new tweaks for every update just to use my phone or TV. Also, I don't really have a problem with the AndroidOS as an operating system in general. It's great on my FireTV's and some other devices. I just don't like the way they did the UI for phones. It's not intuitive at all to me compared to iOS. The only thing I disliked more was BlackBerry back in the day.

Lasagna said:
Torrenting your favourite show/movie in 1080p and instantly play the mkv file? Yes that's possible on Android. On iOS you need to download on your PC, convert the files to .mp4 (or whatever ios uses) and then transfer it with iTunes (pure cancer)
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I haven't opened iTunes in years. Most other iPhone users rarely open it as well. For me personally, I can't think of a reason to ever want to torrent a show directly to my phone. I've spent 10 years building and improving an automated media management system at home. I won't go into full details here but any show or movie I like get's acquired and processed automatically and the content is served to any device I have either in home or remotely over the network. It will also sync content to devices for viewing offline on planes and such.

Lasagna said:
Tl;dr choose android and unless your phone died you better wait for a phone that supports 5G.
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Eh, I can't really think of a reason to need 5G yet either. Save for torrenting movies. See above.
Acid Burn said:
After decades of being free tech support for friends and family who’ve jumped to a ‘better’ device that they weren’t used to nor comfortable with (mac vs pc, palm vs wince vs blackberry, android vs iOS) , I now just recommend whatever they’re most comfortable with at time of phone replacement need. It’s easier on them and the people they use as tech support because realistically any current phone is good enough nowadays. It’s all just individual preference.

Any real power user would be running both Android and iOS on multiple devices anyway that an argument for either/or is rather moot.

And anybody who needs pixelpeeper measurebator levels of camera/lens greatness, they’re running real DSLRs and/or mirrorless cameras rendering phone camera comparisons rather frivolous. It’s like arguing what’s the best fami restaurant around but in the end it’s still a fami restaurant. :LOL:
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Pretty much this. Though I disagree on the DSLR's and mirrorless to a point. I have a great DSLR. But carrying it around Tokyo for a day of sight seeing is a pain. Back before camera phones got as good as they are I would have just not taken a camera at all. Now I can capture spontaneous moments in a way not possible before and they are good enough to display side by side with content made on a good DSLR or mirrorless.
 
Acid Burn said:
And anybody who needs pixelpeeper measurebator levels of camera/lens greatness, they’re running real DSLRs and/or mirrorless cameras rendering phone camera comparisons rather frivolous. It’s like arguing what’s the best fami restaurant around but in the end it’s still a fami restaurant. :LOL:
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Yep... the only serious upgrade to this model is the camera, and I've got a pro-grade DSLR and some serious lenses.
 
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iPhone 11 is great for people who wants to enter Apple eco-system or existing iPhone users who don't have X/XS, but personally I would go for iPhone 11 Pro at least. With iPhones at least you get OS upgrades for much longer than Android ones, even Google Pixel ones. Whether you should always upgrade OSes because of the "planned" slow downs caused to the upgrades or not is another debate.

I don't play games or watch movies on my iPhone so all that CPU power isn't really needed but hey, at least the powerful CPU will pick up the slack when the OS upgrades demand more of it, and the camera. I don't have any DLSR or mirrorless so my phone is pretty much my camera, thus why I would go for at least iPhone 11 Pro.

FeliCA/SUICA support on all new iPhones just means one less card to carry whenever I travel to Japan. Dual SIM through eSIM/nano SIM means I can have my primary cell carrier on my eSIM at all times and use regional SIMs wherever I am traveling to. Some might say dual phyiscal SIM slots are better but at least you don't have to find the right models to have all these. They are all standard options since iPhone XR/XS.

5G isn't gonna be common place for another few years, not to mention first gen 5G chipsets are not great. By the time 5G is available to areas where you live/work/travel often, why pay the premium that you can't even take advantage. Let the bleeding edge adaptors buy those 5G phones. Same with folderable phones, wait for the second gen or third gen.
 
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I think I will. My current phone is getting old and the battery barely makes it through a day.

My experience with Apple is, if you do things their way, they work pretty well. But if you disagree with anything in how their computers or devices work, it's gonna drive you crazy. I'm content to follow the Apple way for the most part.

Does Apple Pay work well in Japan? Can you use it overseas too? Can you just mash the phone on a subway IC reader thing like a Suica card and it'll pay it automatically?
 
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