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Can Anybody Explain These Behaviours? Mentally Challenged Or Just Plain Jerks?

sorry for digging up an old thread, I just saw the first post in this thread and realized I have met with the same guy from Craigslist before, a few years back. That Japanese dude who is ALWAYS posting a huge number of ads. Some of them are like the way you describe but others that he posts are completely different but you can tell by the writing style it's the same guy.
He often talks about wanting a younger blonde girl for either "just dating" or a "serious relationship" looking to get married and have mixed kids. On the opposite end of the spectrum, he posts about wanting to go to a love hotel, or wanting to try some kinky shit, or looking for a tattoo'd/pierced "gyaru" girl,sometimes just for dating, sometimes just for sex, and he posts other ads looking for a Japanese woman.
Well, I didn't realize this at first and I did meet up with him once as he responded to an ad (non-p4p) that I posted. It was VERY different than I expected because he talks about wanting to go shopping, nice dinner, go to Disneyland, himself being wealthy and generous and cosmopolitan, etc.
First up, yes that guy does look "homeless," not dirty per-se, but very unkempt and quite possibly lacking in the personal hygene department. He doesn't have a typical Japanese appearance at all which also really threw me off from the way he described himself. His messages also said he had very nice long hair but it was pulled up into some kind of scruffy man bun when we met and his clothes were like, not really sure how to describe, but just his appearance didn't look nice. But hey, sometimes there's a diamond in the rough out there, so I was friendly to him and tried to chat. He didn't talk much at all the whole time. He took me to a cat cafe and I was cool with that because it could be a light-hearted way to break the ice. It was actually kinda fun but way overcrowded and we couldn't talk much, and then after that he asked if I would like to go for dinner. For dinner he tried to take me to this super cheap 1000yen-all-you-can-eat bread and "western food" kind of place that didn't look like I would like much of what was on offer, I insisted on a different place but he seemed nervous the whole time about what/how much I was ordering. I felt pressured to order minimally and no alcohol :( Again, during dinner, tried to chat, but he was pretty quiet, and the "date" ended after dinner. He seemed almost peeved that my total order was like 1300yen.
I thought at first maybe I wasn't his type and he simply wasn't interested, but at the same time, I described my own physical appearance as accurately as possible before meeting whereas he described himself very differently than how he really is. I really wonder what he is thinking when he posts those ads looking for a young, blonde Swiss or Danish model type and saying he can support her financially and with a visa, take her shopping, etc. The way he presents himself does not give the impression that he could or would do those things for someone.

There's also another total nutter on Craigslist, he sometimes posts ads looking for P4P or responds to ads for such services. I think he is American or British, can't remember. Claims to be mid-late 30's. Asked to meet up, requested that I be really aggressive "like a tiger" with him which is fine for me. His rate offer was a little bit cheap but not ridiculously low and offered "bonuses" if I could make him cum more than once. The guy was REALLY persistent asking for pics though, and even started asking for nudes. I do not send out full nudes to people. I took pics in the level of nudity I was comfortable with, sent them, kept my face out of those pics though but otherwise proved their authenticity. He had my face pic separately anyway. He asks me first to meet him at this rather obscure location in Shibuya, I looked it up on Google Maps and went there. Waited for like 15+ minutes and nobody around. Then he texts me that he was still "stuck in Ebisu" for a meeting that went late (strange, when he had been messaging me before, he made it seem like he was already in Shibuya) and he asked if I could meet him at a certain ticket gate at Ebisu station. I figured it's not too far, I'll just go there instead of waiting around longer. I went and showed up, but I did not see anyone fitting his description. There WAS a foreign man waiting at the ticket gates for quite a while who was eyeing me but he looked much older than this guy had claimed to be (I'm talking 15+ years older) and the way he was dressed didn't quite match the way this guy described what he was wearing, so I didn't approach him, but that guy sure was awkwardly looking at me but doing his best to avoid actual eye contact. Waited around a little bit and then just left, I don't have time to deal with these idiots. Lo and behold, a few weeks later, he posted on Craigslist using MY pictures (without the face) posing as a woman looking for a lesbian/bisexual woman for either a lesbian encounter or a 3 way with her "husband" or something like that. I swear the guy is just collecting pics but going through some strange effort to get them.

And this is why I very quickly gave up on using Craigslist in Tokyo.
 
just saw the first post in this thread and realized I have met with the same guy from Craigslist before, a few years back. That Japanese dude who is ALWAYS posting a huge number of ads. Some of them are like the way you describe but others that he posts are completely different but you can tell by the writing style it's the same guy.
He often talks about wanting a younger blonde girl for either "just dating" or a "serious relationship" looking to get married and have mixed kids. On the opposite end of the spectrum, he posts about wanting to go to a love hotel, or wanting to try some kinky shit, or looking for a tattoo'd/pierced "gyaru" girl,sometimes just for dating, sometimes just for sex, and he posts other ads looking for a Japanese woman.
Well, I didn't realize this at first and I did meet up with him once as he responded to an ad (non-p4p) that I posted. It was VERY different than I expected because he talks about wanting to go shopping, nice dinner, go to Disneyland, himself being wealthy and generous and cosmopolitan, etc.
First up, yes that guy does look "homeless," not dirty per-se, but very unkempt and quite possibly lacking in the personal hygene department. He doesn't have a typical Japanese appearance at all which also really threw me off from the way he described himself. His messages also said he had very nice long hair but it was pulled up into some kind of scruffy man bun when we met and his clothes were like, not really sure how to describe, but just his appearance didn't look nice. But hey, sometimes there's a diamond in the rough out there, so I was friendly to him and tried to chat. He didn't talk much at all the whole time. He took me to a cat cafe and I was cool with that because it could be a light-hearted way to break the ice. It was actually kinda fun but way overcrowded and we couldn't talk much, and then after that he asked if I would like to go for dinner. For dinner he tried to take me to this super cheap 1000yen-all-you-can-eat bread and "western food" kind of place that didn't look like I would like much of what was on offer, I insisted on a different place but he seemed nervous the whole time about what/how much I was ordering. I felt pressured to order minimally and no alcohol :( Again, during dinner, tried to chat, but he was pretty quiet, and the "date" ended after dinner. He seemed almost peeved that my total order was like 1300yen.
I thought at first maybe I wasn't his type and he simply wasn't interested, but at the same time, I described my own physical appearance as accurately as possible before meeting whereas he described himself very differently than how he really is. I really wonder what he is thinking when he posts those ads looking for a young, blonde Swiss or Danish model type and saying he can support her financially and with a visa, take her shopping, etc. The way he presents himself does not give the impression that he could or would do those things for someone.
I think we met the exact same guy. This guy calls himself Osamu and told me he love trains. Densha otaku. We were together for only about an hour for a meal, which I paid for, coz he told me he was unemployed and just takes care of his sick mom. Though in the internet he tried to appear different. The moment I saw him, I was like, Oh my ghad! What have I gotten myself into. Does he really think looking like a homeless (not dirty homeless) would be appropriate to meet a girl he promises to take out shopping or go to disneyland with, lol. He was never pushy or pervy. Actually I found his personality weak, which was good coz if he try to act pervy on me, I might have kicked him in the balls considering I paid for the meal (which is a topic that was high debated here and you guys know my stand).

Overall, I passed that encounter as a learning experience. I was 2000-3000 poorer but oh well. My conclusion was, he was probably just delusional. Mental sickness, which isn't too rare apparently, even around here, there's so many of that. Charge it to experience ^_^

Ps: He sent me a photo of himself before meeting. Just facial photo. Hence I know exactly his face, but not his homeless appearance.
 
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Craigslist is so creepy.
I looked a bit on there and posted one kind of ad once but never met someone because of creepy mails and stuff.
I might have talked to Osamu, the name sounds familiar from my early visit time in Japan, but fortunately i never met up with him.
 
Okay, I've been trying to put myself out there and trying to meet people and I got three different experiences that I considered are the worsts. I will start from the least annoying.

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You gotta understand that a LOT of guys want to get as much bang for their buck as they can. When you understand that its easier to weed out the ones who will jerk you around like that. Thing is it may take some time, and if youre in a tight spot money wise then youre probably going to have to deal with a lot more people like you dealt with.

When youre in a better spot and can afford to turn down a LOT of clients, you gotta make rules that the client has to follow before you even agree to meet to make sure he is legit (there are a few guys out there that are legit) take what youve learned from those cliets that were terrible and make some sort of rubric that new cliets have to follow so that you can weed out the ones wholl waste your time. For example, guys that live in places that will take you a long time to get out to are a NG(No Go. . .I think thats what it means anyway.) Things like that. Keep doing that and youll be able to build yourself a nice client base.

A lot of people do this on Elance too, same tactics apply really.
 
You gotta understand that a LOT of guys want to get as much bang for their buck as they can. When you understand that its easier to weed out the ones who will jerk you around like that. Thing is it may take some time, and if youre in a tight spot money wise then youre probably going to have to deal with a lot more people like you dealt with.

When youre in a better spot and can afford to turn down a LOT of clients, you gotta make rules that the client has to follow before you even agree to meet to make sure he is legit (there are a few guys out there that are legit) take what youve learned from those cliets that were terrible and make some sort of rubric that new cliets have to follow so that you can weed out the ones wholl waste your time. For example, guys that live in places that will take you a long time to get out to are a NG(No Go. . .I think thats what it means anyway.) Things like that. Keep doing that and youll be able to build yourself a nice client base.

A lot of people do this on Elance too, same tactics apply really.
Thank you, but I wasn't seeking escort- client type of relationship. And my search has been very fruitful after those horrible incidents.
 
Thank you, but I wasn't seeking escort- client type of relationship. And my search has been very fruitful after those horrible incidents.


Oh I see, I think the above methods still apply though in the future, for many types of services, it could help a lot.
 
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How many dic pics did you receive or did stop counting after the first 50?
 
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You gotta understand that a LOT of guys want to get as much bang for their buck as they can. When you understand that its easier to weed out the ones who will jerk you around like that. Thing is it may take some time, and if youre in a tight spot money wise then youre probably going to have to deal with a lot more people like you dealt with.

When youre in a better spot and can afford to turn down a LOT of clients, you gotta make rules that the client has to follow before you even agree to meet to make sure he is legit (there are a few guys out there that are legit) take what youve learned from those cliets that were terrible and make some sort of rubric that new cliets have to follow so that you can weed out the ones wholl waste your time. For example, guys that live in places that will take you a long time to get out to are a NG(No Go. . .I think thats what it means anyway.) Things like that. Keep doing that and youll be able to build yourself a nice client base.

A lot of people do this on Elance too, same tactics apply really.
It's not that bad though.
Especially if you charge a bit higher rates and make sure to remind people what your rates are and dont discount (too much), you naturally weed out the bad ones.
A lot of guys dont just try to pop a lot but take their time for cuddling and conversation.
 
Sugar babe gets something, then gives something. It could be just talking or it could be sex. However, if the man quit giving, the woman would drop him like a bodybuilder drops 100 lb Dumbbells. There are the one's that are into married men in a fetish kind of way. Again, they are getting paid or using the man to get something. Now a player uses the woman as a sex toy. Notable cases where this ended very badly. Mutual sugar baby arrangements, benefit the man and the woman, but it is still a form of prostitution unless no money or gifting took place. Sure bonds result from spending time together, but at the moment money is in play or living quarters are in play, things get as fuzzy as a gal after drinking 10 fuzzy navels. I am still confused. I am off to get my sugar daddy lesson from a Madame. I will find out what she thinks. The French must have the answer.

When I was in my 20s and first came to Japan, I met a much older guy who made had SD/SB relationships with younger women and made no secret about it. When other guys in their 20s would criticize this and put him down, he would ask them if their pretty girlfriend would stay with them if they went to McDonalds for dinner instead of a nice restaurant, or if they didn't buy the girl a nice birthday present or Christmas present, or if they taught English instead of working at a bank. To the married guys, he posited that he spent far less on jewelry in 5 years than they did in one.
Who's in it for the money?
 
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When I was in my 20s and first came to Japan, I met a much older guy who made had SD/SB relationships with younger women and made no secret about it. When other guys in their 20s would criticize this and put him down, he would ask them if their pretty girlfriend would stay with them if they went to McDonalds for dinner instead of a nice restaurant, or if they didn't buy the girl a nice birthday present or Christmas present, or if they taught English instead of working at a bank. To the married guys, he posited that he spent far less on jewelry in 5 years than they did in one.
Who's in it for the money?
Hm, call me crazy but i believe in something called "love"...
Its a big thing, and in the mean time relationships with someone who can take you on fancy dates can be good.

In the end i really wouldn't care about money or jewels and mcdonalds or fancy restaurants but passion and ambition is very important to me. Maybe rather a teacher than a banker than because i have met more passionate teachers than bankers in my life.
 
passion and ambition is very important to me

Some people take this too seriously and spend their lives following their ambitions and forget their relationships along the way.... a good balance is healthy. :)

A little sugar never hurt anyone. ;)