Chinese clients at soapland

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I am sure there is certain percentage of rough Japanese clients as well but those Chinese clients are insane.

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20181204-00000006-pseven-cn

Basically the article says some Chinese clients at soapland have very bad manner such as putting their feet with their shoes on on a table at waiting room, don’t use ashtray although is provided, trying to rip girls cloth off literally as soon as they enter the play room, grabbing girls’ hair and arms, tossing cigarete ash onto girls head (!), negotiating their rate like three clients for the price of two yet they wear a lot more expensive looking cloths and shoes than Japanese. Geez.

The shop staff says “loosing our girls due to rough clients hurts our business the most. We may have to be more cautious with accepting foreigners.”

This. I am sure you guys on TAG treat girls nicely but when more than a few guys treat girls badly, it may cause other serious foreigners, especially ones who work and live in Tokyo, trouble and give local Japanese community wrong idea of foreigners....

(Yes, I am bored. I am waiting my turn at a hospital for almost two hours. All I want is 20 tablet of Zomig!)
 
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I think we may see establishments requiring Japanese ID for foreign clients in the near future. The tourist trade is troublesome for most places that allow it.
 
Well, even if you have money doesn't mean you have style/manners/respect. Eventually they will just ignore anyone that's in specific groups if this keeps going on. Good or not, I can't say, but since you can't ban individuals separately, wide net bans that catch innocent and trouble-free customers will happen.
 
I am sure there is certain percentage of rough Japanese clients as well but those Chinese clients are insane.

https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20181204-00000006-pseven-cn

Basically the article says some Chinese clients at soapland have very bad manner such as putting their feet with their shoes on on a table at waiting room, don’t use ashtray although is provided, trying to rip girls cloth off literally as soon as they enter the play room, grabbing girls’ hair and arms, tossing cigarete ash onto girls head (!), negotiating their rate like three clients for the price of two yet they wear a lot more expensive looking cloths and shoes than Japanese. Geez.

The shop staff says “loosing our girls due to rough clients hurts our business the most. We may have to be more cautious with accepting foreigners.”

This. I am sure you guys on TAG treat girls nicely but when more than a few guys treat girls badly, it may cause other serious foreigners, especially ones who work and live in Tokyo, trouble and give local Japanese community wrong idea of foreigners....

(Yes, I am bored. I am waiting my turn at a hospital for almost two hours. All I want is 20 tablet of Zomig!)
Thanks for sharing the report and sorry to hear that you are waiting so long for such a simple task. Hope it's settled by now...

I've met some really decent Chinese people and a lot of them can't stand their own country (and people). But China as a whole just has a severe lack of manners when it comes to being a tourist in other countries.
Every single country where I've been, there has been nasty tourists from China mainland... spitting, dumping trash, pushing, yelling, pissing on sidewalks and just overall gross. The women are no better if you think I'm just talking about men.

Seriously though, no offense to the educated Chinese folks who understand the world outside of China.
 
Every single country where I've been, there has been nasty tourists from China mainland... spitting, dumping trash, pushing, yelling, pissing on sidewalks and just overall gross. The women are no better if you think I'm just talking about men.
The really horrible ones like that are usually from the industrial areas away from the cities, and they’re just acting exactly as they do at home. They’re the Chinese equivalent of Saitama border town people.
 
Doesn't matter where people come from, they should remember they are a guest in Japan and should learn some manners. I guess where some of these people come from though they'd behave the exact same way in somebodies home they are a guest of and have no respect for the host. Some parts of the world have that 'law of the jungle' mentality where they only care about themselves. I have some good friends in Japan that are from Hong Kong and Taiwan and they always say they hate to be roped in with mainland Chinese because their attitudes are so different.
 
In discussing this kind of thing with friends from China, this kind of behavior seems to be a hallmark of the generation that was born in the 60s-70s. They grew up in a society where there was not a lot of exposure to the rest of the world, and domestically, you had to hustle for everything you had, everybody else was trying to do the same to you. Compound that with sudden wealth, and you have spoiled brats. Fortunately, it seems that the younger generation (those in their 20s) seem to be a bit more better behaved. Although even they still have some issues, as their generation was raised under the one-child policy.

It's still annoying as hell when you are confronted with such behavior. So, I'm not trying to excuse it.
 
I am not in defense of the bulk herd of rude and arrogant Chinese tourists, but there is something in this article that just doesn't make sense...

As far as I know, the majority of rude Chinese tourists just don't speak either Japanese or English to be linguistically capable of confronting any shop...and I doubt they have the ability to independently find any meaningful information about Yoshirawa shops in the first place. They never use Google, and the only search engine they can use will at best give them some sort of paid advertisements of some Chinese touts.

As far as I can tell, when they need to use adult service in Japan, they seldom go to a shop by themselves. Their most likely access is to talk to the tour guide/group leader (as their almost only way to come to Japan is in huge tourist groups); the tour guide/group leader then make arrangements with local Chinese middlemen (who often in involvement of some triads); the middlemen will send them one of Chinese providers pretending to be Japanese. Those providers come to Japan on short tourist visa and manage to speak a dozen of Japanese phrases. Their main clientele is their fellow Chinese tourists. Thus, for most p4p transactions in Japan that cater for Chinese tourists, no real Japanese provider is involved.

When those rude and arrogant Chinese tourists do insist on going to a soapland or even meeting up some sort of JAV pornstar, they will have to pay hefty amounts to the tour guide and middlemen, and get enough instructions on how to behave appropriately before being brought to the shop. When they misbehave, the middlemen will make things pretty ugly.
 
That's aweful...

I meet so many Chinese clients throughout a year via TAG, they are nice guys and fortunately, never met bad manner types. I guess those types ghost during sending inquiry and never get to meet so far...
 
I have some very sweet regular clients who are of Chinese origin and one of them treats me like I am a delicate flower. Our personalities click and we never run out of topics during the downtime. Then again, there are Chinese clients who send me rude inquiries and expect me to appear out of thin air in their hotel room within 45 minutes. (Not possible because I simply don’t live in the basement of their hotel I guess?) The country has a population of nearly 1.5 billion and Japan is close by, therefore the quantity of bad apples exceed other nationalities.. just like the British sex tourists cause a lot of trouble in the Red Light District in Netherlands because it’s more accessible to them.

I have some doubts about this article. When I was doing night club work, the Chinese customers would be brought in by a mediator who spoke Japanese. The customers almost never spoke a word of English or Japanese and we had to resort to using our body language & google translate. Some of them expected sex would be on the table because they were ordering a bottle of champagne, but most were okay. China has a unique history, the people weren’t open to interacting with foreign cultures for a long time and the difference between the older & younger generation is very noticeable. As far as I know if you can’t speak Japanese certain girls will be out of the menu in soaplands, and I’m not sure what happens if you don’t speak English either?
 
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ust like the British sex tourists cause a lot of trouble in the Red Light District in Netherlands because it’s more accessible to them.

I was thinking about how it used to be the British at the top of the Worst Tourists list followed closely by the Germans but now they just dont even come close to ranking top.
 
What? Another area where America is not No. 1?!? Very bad deal. Just horrible. I won't stop until the US is no. 1 again!! MAGA!!!

Im a bit pissed off too. I thought it was the French. But we are currently too busy making mayhem in our own country I guess.
 
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I won't stop until the US is no. 1 again!!

The US was #1 in this area for a brief time in the 60s back when Europe was still licking its wounds from the last time they went on a massive spree of trying to kill each other. They were all so fucking poor that there really wasn't much outbound tourism.

I thought it was the French.

France being relatively big, almost as big as Texas, seems y'all do most of your tourism domestically. Handy since it doesnt put anyone in a position of not having to speak French.
 
Guys, calm down.
I didn’t create a thread to make fun of one specific country (I occasionally meet Chinese clients, they are gentlemen and I have never met even single Chinese guy who is similar to those tourists in the article) or inflame your patriot.

So whose passport has the largest number of countries their holders can travel to visa-free?

Japanese!! ;)
 
Yeah, like, they can go to Cuba and Iran and you can’t? :D
Hey, Iran is a beautiful country :)

Btw it absolutely sucks that Iran and Lebanon denies entrance if you have a stamp for Israel in your passport.
 
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Hey, Iran is a beautiful country :)
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Certainly and I would love to visit it in fact.
I was just made fun of the « most valuable passport » thing coz Im not sure it gives that much more access than the US or French one. Maybe not even Iran nor Cuba. I dunno, maybe the Japanese just signed agreements with a few extra micro-countries we don’t even know exist.
 
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Btw it absolutely sucks that Iran and Lebanon denies entrance if you have a stamp for Israel in your passport.

Get two passports from your home country. Just tell them you need to travel to Iran and Israel and they will grant the extra one.
 
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Hey, Iran is a beautiful country :)

Btw it absolutely sucks that Iran and Lebanon denies entrance if you have a stamp for Israel in your passport.

Israeli officials no longer stamp on your passport at entry or exit. The problematic case for those countries is a missing entry or exit stamp of Jordan. Jordanian officials stamp on your passpor at entry/exit at Amman airport, but they don’t stamp at the King Hussein border crossing. As long as you travel through Tel Aviv both in and out, it doesn’t affect your subsequent travels.