Complaints From Escorts

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  1. RIDER 00

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    Hey Guys,

    Just some feedback from the escorts I am seeing, so please go through it if you have the time.
    I'm just passing along a message so please understand that I don't personally have much of an opinion on this matter.

    1) Some male customers have very large equipment, sometimes much too large for Japanese women. I know that because you've paid the escort, you're expecting a good deal of service, but, if your cock is the size of a 500ml plastic bottle, don't expect the women to be able to give you BJ/FS to your satisfaction. This escort in particular said she begged the guy to accept a HJ and partial BJ, but he insisted on DT and as much could fit in her in MS. This resulted in her bleeding from the area and soreness for 2 weeks after, which was not appreciated.

    2) Some men have the gift to be able to cum multiple times in one session, a few, apparantely, can even cum every 5 minutes of a 90 minute session. This is perfectly fine, but having the women eat every last drop and continue to provide FS is going a little overboard, don't you think?

    3) It is helpful to tell the escort before the session what gets you off (S, M, anal play, etc.) because some customers say nothing and don't even get an erection for most of the session until the escort does a lot of experimenting, which can be a turn off and waste of valuable service time.

    4) Escorts and their agencies check all current review boards such as this one and 2ch for customer reviews, even those in English. With the amount of details given, it is very easy to tell which particular customer wrote a review, so be careful of what you write.

    5) If the escort you want to reserve always seems busy, it's probably because she has to juggle a lot of other reservation requests and can't spare a lot of time. In these cases, it is helpful to make the reservation a week in adavance to ensure she makes time for you.
     
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    The old joke is that if an escort complains about having sex with you being unpleasant or taking too long etc, then she is giving you a very authentic GFE! (By posting this joke, I do NOT mean to make light of the problems you list, especially #1...which I know causes many escorts quite a lot of pain and suffering, not to mention the associated psychological stress and worry. The problem is not restricted to Japanese or asian or small women either.)

    -Ww
     
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    Treat the girls right, guys. They are (sexy) service providers, not pieces of meat to abuse.

    1&3) Some Japanese providers tend to be a little passive about things and will do stuff that customers want even if it hurts or makes them uncomfortable. This is not an invitation to abuse the privilege. I consider my first session to be a 'get to know you' session, and generally don't start asking for anything out of the realm of 'ordinary' until the 2nd session (I wouldn't consider DT to be ordinary, especially if a guy is large).

    Doing something like that is a good way to lose access to providers. I read a review of an AM girl a while back (it might have been on a different board) where the girl refused to see the guy after a 2nd session because he kept forcing her to deep throat even though she never complained. Some girls love DT and will do it without even me asking for it. Oral sex isn't illegal in Japan. You are free to ask the agency "do you have any girls that like DT?"

    I have to admit I was disappointed with some Japanese providers because they were really passive and I never asked them if they could be a little more active.

    2) same as #1. If you want a marathon fuck session, you might want to talk to the agency or the girl first and say 'will this girl be okay with non-stop action?'

    4) I highly recommend not putting specific dates on reviews for this reason (It possibly could also get you in trouble with the SO or others if they know what to look for). I'll usually put "3rd week of August in the afternoon", which is enough to know that it's a timely review and the time of day we met, but not enough to be super-specific. You probably also might want to be somewhat discreet about other specifics as well. Sharing info is a delicate balance.

    5) I love to plan ahead, even for meeting a provider, so I generally book multiple days in advance. It's frustrating in some places that only have same-day booking (lots of asian places in the US are this way), because all the super-popular girls get booked up in like 20 minutes.
     
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    That's a funny joke.

    Yes, this problem is certainly not restricted to a particular size or race of women. I have been with "tight" women who actually like the pain of an oversized penis, so it's really up to the particular escort and her preferences.
     
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    That's good advice.

    The reason an escort told me this info is that she was explaining how escorts/agencies don't really mind a bad review as long as the info provided is true. This is because many escorts see an actual spike in their reservation number with either a good or bad review. (The escort said a lot of men just want info on body type/reliability, so even with a bad review, curious men will still make a reservation)

    On the other hand, if you write a review full of bs/slander or just plain nasty, it will most likely be the cause an escort/agency drops a particular client, so the more anonymous the review, the better.
     
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    1) I find this complaint about size dubious and Japanese cultural oddness. Is it not a case of a P4P woman wanting to do the minimum, but get the maximum money?

    A) If you say Japanese men have a small penis, there will often be a line around the block arguing that isn't true. So if the penis size of Japanese guys are the same as those as foreigners, a Japanese escort shouldn't be complaining, right?

    B) I've been to other countries in Asia, and this preoccupation with penis size causing immense damage to the vagina, is very Japanese. I wonder why Chinese, Korean, Thai, and Filipina women don't seem to make this complaint like Japanese women?

    Furthermore, many gynecologists would dispute a 2 week sore vagina, unless she had an STD.

    C) A pro would be having sex often enough that some variation in penis size should make NO difference. Unless the guy had a donkey size 9 inch/22.25 centimeter or bigger penis, which is EXTREMELY RARE and like 1% of guys, the variation in penis size among guys is usually within 3 inches or 7 centimeters. 90% of men are between 4 inches/10 centimeters and 7 inches/17.75 centimeters.

    Again, most gynecologists would dispute that the vagina of a pro prostitute would be broken by a 7 inch/17.75 centimeter or so penis.


    2) If the guy paid for 90 minutes, why can't he get the full value of what he paid for?
     
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    As I said in my post, the complaint was towards a guy with a dick the size of a 500ml bottle, basically donkey size.

    Also, 90 minutes of service doesn't mean you can turn the escort into your sex slave for the whole 90 minutes. If the girl says no, stop what you're doing. If you don't like it, don't repeat.
     
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    lol... wtf? :stop:

    That's all I could muster when I read that line.... o_O
     
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    A 500ml bottle = 20 cm or 7.5 inches. Only around 5% of human males have a penis of this length or longer. By the way, that's how long that I am, so I'm very aware of how this size works with women.

    Length wise, 7.5 inches or 20 cm isn't that long. The vagina of women who are of average height can easily handle a penis that long, WHEN sufficiently stimulated and wet. Only women who are very short, would have a problem. This would likely be women who are around 150cm, 4 feet and 11 inches, and shorter. This is very short, even for Asian and Japanese women.

    Nearly all human males, even if their penis is 20cm/7.5in or longer, would NOT have a penis as thick or wide around as a 500ml bottle. That would be less than 1% of human males with a penis that thick. It would be an extremely rare event, maybe once in a life time, that a woman would meet a man with a penis as thick as a 500ml bottle.

    A Japanese woman of average height is perfectly able to do an excellent BJ on a penis of 7.5in/20cm.

    Now your point about deep throat (DT), which few women take the time to learn the skill can be an issue, but she can put the head in her mouth and use her hands. I agree that guys bigger than average shouldn't demand DT.

    I'm wondering if the P4P provider in question is a/are unusually short women? Very short women are likely to encounter more issues.

    On the flip, a guy who has a bigger than average penis, should likely be advised to seek service from taller than average women. 165cm and taller.
     
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    Fwiiw, I am pretty confident that the correlation of height with length of vagina is only a quite rough one with lots of "scatter" (i.e., variations from the mean), just like the correlations of the sizes of other body part sizes. Just look around on the street or wherever and notice how many people have hands, feet, heads, legs, arms, ears, noses etc that are a bit too small or large compared to the rest of their bodies. Genitalia are no different. We all know that men of the same height or body size have penises of a wide variety of lengths.

    -Ww
     
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    This thread is good for a laugh. Its like an alternate world where well hung men commiserate about the misfortunes of being gifted with salami-sized cocks.

    Japan is one of the few countries where men might be happier to have a tiny to normal sized tool! Less complaints from p4p providers!
     
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    You are only partially correct. If you are talking about breasts, you would be correct. Like penises, breasts size doesn't directly correlate with height. That's because you are talking about protruding flesh.

    However, the vagina does correlate to hip size. Taller women would tend to have a greater capacity than smaller women.

    It's not to say there isn't exceptions or a woman couldn't develop abilities, but it is to say there is a correlation because of the greater size of the hip bone and greater corresponding volume. Bigger hip bones means more space.

    We are talking about bone being involved. It's not controversial to say taller people would tend to have bigger feet than smaller people. Yes exceptions will be plenty, but generally the trend is clear. This is because the bones are supporting greater height and size.

    I of course know people want to be politically correct and some women like to impress men by claiming they have super tiny mini vaginas, but sometimes there is no escaping reality.
     
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    Imo you are also only partially correct. Internal flesh is not that much better correlated with bone structure than external/protruding flesh, and vaginas are flesh, not bone (thank god!!! :D ). Ask your friendly neighborhood surgeon how much the size of internal organs in general varies among individuals of the same height, for example.

    Even the relative proportions of bone sizes can vary quite a bit; ask your friendly neighborhood tailor! For example, I am a bit "long bodied" above the waist and a bit "short bodied" below; I usually wear shirts sized for "extra tall" and need the legs on my pants well on the short end of the usual range.

    Anyway my main, nearly only, point is what you say in the part of your post I've made bold in the above quote. Basically you will end up causing some of your taller partners considerable pain if you have a big dick and assume that they have a deep vagina based on their height.

    -Ww
     
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    @Ww

    So, if we go into a NBA (basketball) locker room, we can expect all of them to have small feet? Ah, no... Is the reality that all those basketball players are running around with tiny baby feet or big feet?

    If a tall woman has a small vagina, what else is occupying the extra space? Hmmm.... Exceptions happen, but they wouldn't be the general rule.

    Let us also not forget the primary objective of the vagina. Last checked, fully developed babies don't come out finger sized. The vagina was made to stretch and expand.

    And lastly, don't rule out things like STDs, lack of sexual practice, or insufficiently wet as problems for a woman accommodating male penis sizes. For example, a woman with a STD like chlymida, can have issues with tears, the vagina being easily damaged, and problems with wetness.
     
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    Whether a woman's vagina is long or short for her height, there is a lot of other "stuff" in her pelvic region than her vagina...no shortage of tissues to take up the "extra" space. Isn't there some gynecologist in the house who can address the issue more authoritatively?

    True enough, but if you have ever been with a woman in labor (as I have), you may have noticed that all of that stretching and expanding is MOST DEFINITELY NOT a pleasurable or comfortable experience for her...to put it VERY mildly.

    I agree that these are other likely causes of female "discomfort" (as medical types like to call pain) with large penises, but it doesn't change the fact that there is a problem and there is real pain and sometimes injury. In fact it is easy to imagine that escorts may have more trouble in sexual activities with their better endowed customers than they and other women do in those with their "real" lovers exactly because they are often not aroused and thus not wet, relaxed etc. But again, that does not change the reality of the problem for them.

    -Ww
     
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    Well, I'm not going to discuss my profession, as it would be a little identifying, but it has been quite conclusively proven that a person's height has no significant relationship to the size of their genitalia, male or female. Further, the vaginal canal is not of a static size. When a woman is less aroused, the vaginal canal is contracted and the cervix descended. When she is more aroused, the cervix retracts and the vaginal canal tents, becoming longer, while the vaginal opening loosens and the vaginal walls become more elastic. Typically, the more aroused a woman is, the more accommodating her vagina will become.

    Quite often, issues with vaginal accommodation are more a question of inadequate arousal and/or inadequate lubrication than of physical limitations.
     
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    @Sudsy

    Thank you very much for what strikes me as an authoritative and very plausible explanation.

    Among other things it indicates why escorts are more likely to have problems accommodating "large" men than the romantic or purely lustful partners of the same guys...namely, the escort is much less likely to be aroused.

    -Ww
     
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    Because, of course, men know more about women's bodies then women do.

    (Sorry- just had to poke the bear)

    Ha!
     
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    Men can possibly have sex with many women. Actually, look at and be in the vagina of many women.

    A woman may have no idea whatsoever about other women in terms of sex. She might only know about her own vagina, not those of other women.

    Information about women can also come from scientific studies, and an individual woman rarely ever studies her own vagina to that extent.

    Think deeply about it. It may be enlightening.
     
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    As a tangent, brought to mind by Solong's comment, it has often struck me as odd and ironic that I have much more knowledge of and experience with how women have sex, what they like and don't like, how they react etc etc than I do men...even though I am (obviously) a man. The reason is that my sexual experiences have involved a fairly large number of women but nearly (not quite...due to some group activities, mostly in the distant past) no men other than myself. And, of course, for many/most women, the situation is just the opposite...they mostly know about male sexuality.

    -Ww
     

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