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Crazy 3rd time breakup with a working girl.

split said:
. I'm not worried about divorce. It would never happen.
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Famous last words I've heard a hundred times.
split said:
The wife has no clue how to initiate, or is willing to spend such time in, given the complexities of the laws, her nationality, the process required
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And there isn't a lawyer on the face of the planet who wouldn't? "Complex" just means more expensive for the loser. Yeah, the loser, raise your hand over there.
 
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ShowaJidai said:
Famous last words I've heard a hundred times.

And there isn't a lawyer on the face of the planet who wouldn't? "Complex" just means more expensive for the loser. Yeah, the loser, raise your hand over there.
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She makes her own money, and money to her, is not worth trips to America or even a short visit to a lawyer available in Tokyo over the time with our child. if I died tomorrow that's another issue.
 
.,.and your wife doesn't have any man-hating, feminazi friends who would orgasm hooking your wife up with a similarly-minded female lawyer on-line who would handle this case just because she hates men?
 
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.,.and your wife doesn't have any man-hating, feminazi friends who would orgasm hooking your wife up with a similarly-minded female lawyer on-line who would handle this case just because she hates men?
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None. At all. She's in fact very private. Friends are really just acquaintances with her. It's not worth the headache for her. She's not American btw and she's against American/Western feminism.
 
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To a lot of girls, especially Japanese, the work is just that, work. Its called "warikiri" for a reason and there are no feelings involved for her, which is why she justifies working while she is very jealous of your, still sexual, relationship with your wife, i think.

I wouldn't call it unreasonable of her to be sad and jealous that the man she loves is treating her like some side dish, and i wouldn't find it unreasonable for your wife to be furious would she find out either. One doesn't have to be a feminist to be upset by their partner's betrayal.

I wouldn't say this is an open relationship either because she has not been honest about sleeping with other people herself, and she was angry when you told her you are married after hooking up with her and seems to have never accepted it. Plus your wife doesn't know anything about the triangle.

Easier said than done but i'd maybe make my apologies to her again and then really stay away from her, block her, remove messages unopened. This relationship isn't good or fair to anyone involved. And i don't think "open relationships" or relationships with sex workers always have to be that way. I'm personally always honest about my ways when i'm dating someone.
 
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ShowaJidai said:
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

And I believe seeing pictures of her husband on a Carribean beach with a prostitute will bounce the needle well past "scorned" in the mind of any being which possesses a vagina.
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Fortunately, my face is cut off from those Carribean pics. It's the Valentine's pic of us back in Tokyo together with our names engraved in caramel on a candied heart she ordered at a restaurant she's eating that would be an issue. At that point in time after our trip I felt comfortable enough to allow my face in her pics.
 
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run and run fast.

i was in a similar situation but i took her to Cuba for a month instead. the girl was hot then cold. emotional then normal... i found out after that she was bipolar. before i left her (for good)... she tried to ruin my life on one of her downswings. she sent our porn video to my parents and my work. she called police on me for rape. (even tho she was in the US at the time! lol) 2 months after i dealt with all that drama (and silence from her) she was back messaging me like nothing hapened.

Run, my friend. plenty of SANE pussy out there for the taking
 
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After reading more about the situation and consulting with Dr. Freud's spirit, I've come to the conclusion,

If you play with fire...

You want to get burned!!!


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Possibly totally irrelevant anecdote: a couple of companies ago, one of my star sales guys came to me in confidence with a problem. He was engaged, soon to be married, and a hostess he used to be involved with years ago was taking it as an opportunity to work with local yakuza and extort him. They printed disparaging fliers and stuffed mailboxes in his neighborhood, contacted us at work, emailed his fiancée and her family, etc. Several highly expensive lawyers later the problem was finally and not cheaply resolved.

Tldr; do not put your dick in crazy.
 
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User#8628. Thanks for the advice. I contacted her to apologize, mainly to leave on good terms and make clear that I don't like a crash landing (true). She didn't accept anything I wrote. Basically "any more excuses?" Fine with me. She's angry for whatever reason (I'm married, she won't share me with my wife and she should be the only one in a man's life, every Japanese girl's dream right). I have no issue swallowing my pride even when I know I'm not solely at fault. Just to learn the complexities of women no matter how perverse (self and inter-relationship-wise), or how devastatingly destructive they are. Why not get some insight? I got the feeling she relished off of my apology. As long as it relieves her stress (and I told her that) and minimizes my future reprocussions while clearing my conscious for my own needs, I'm fine with that despite how selfish it may sound. She was still very hateful toward me I could tell. Damn, what is it that I do, I say, that makes these women this way?
 
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ShowaJidai said:
It's not so much you as it is the voices in her head. You can't change that.
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Yeah, romanticism is either alive or dead, at this point dead, even after seeing the hundreds of Line chats since June after re-adding her deleted Line this week. It's weird to imagine that we actually spent that much time texting, trading pics, icons, etc in under a year.
 
Maxblack said:
Possibly totally irrelevant anecdote: a couple of companies ago, one of my star sales guys came to me in confidence with a problem. He was engaged, soon to be married, and a hostess he used to be involved with years ago was taking it as an opportunity to work with local yakuza and extort him. They printed disparaging fliers and stuffed mailboxes in his neighborhood, contacted us at work, emailed his fiancée and her family, etc. Several highly expensive lawyers later the problem was finally and not cheaply resolved.

Tldr; do not put your dick in crazy.
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What is the basis of her blackmailing? Almost all businessmen in Japan go to clubs at some point, (usually in groups) and all the pretty girls work in these establishments for cash. Men are not hesitant to give their meishi's to the girls. You can't just blackmail someone solely for going to hostess clubs?

I have a guess..
 
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So, 2 weeks ago, bad, prolonged breakup over several days of bashing each other. I never deleted her Line as that would be three strikes your out (of deleting her). She calls me a 'middle-aged miserable' man and asks who would be interested in me if I weren't a white English speaker in Japan.... basically, misconceptions about who I really am at the core. Anyway, two weeks no contact. She's not interested in a married man with a kid and won't share me with my wife. After I expressed my feelings had grown for her (especially after the trip), her accusing me of using cheap words (my words were always honest despite here tell me to go to hell from her own heart), and subsequently that I would not contact her anymore, she stated she won't regret the decision she made. So, I thought "what's done is done, it was terribly painful, she's hardcore, hot and drop type."

Then comes my birthday after 2 weeks. She suddenly contacts me, wishes happy B-day and sends pictures of herself at home in her daily life, a video of her writing my name with a sharpie on a banana, peeling and then sucking it. Then, another video of her and the twin wishing happy b-day. Small talk ensues over the past 2 days, and she tells me they (her and the twin) are suddenly returning from their foreign host country to move back to Japan. That was really a surprise. As I understood, the long-term plan was to stay in their host country. I really didn't know how to approach this (even more so, get my emotions involved in this again), as she also had uploaded more photos of herself to our shared Google Drive on the same day.

So, I ask a few short questions, being cautious with my questions. I get very short answers. In western culture, this is seen as indirectly closed-off. But I'm not quite sure in Japanese culture. All the responses to my questions were blunt and not inviting to further conversation (no further information given on her behalf). She's also into the ebb and flow of Tango dance if that puts things in perspective. So, I tried to find more about why they suddenly decided to return to Japan. Again, general answers. "there's nothing more here." Wow. That's was entirely different to the goals she had told on our trip to T&C.

Over the day, I tried to make it clear that I wasn't trying to pry into her personal life too much by being too invasive with my questions. She seemed ok with that and suddenly sends me a video of her doggy-style ass where her sister used a marker to draw a bunny on her ass. Ok. this has gone from -5 to +1 in a matter of 24 hours. I ask some questions about why she chose that city in Japan and we discuss the differences in the thinking of Japanese people in both cities. She mentions that even though she lived in Tokyo for several years, she never had a close friend here. I told her that is the same for both natives and foreigners.

Then suddenly she says "To be honest, I hope to see you again." I told her I thought she hated me. She said "I like you except you are married to a (nationality here)," + "anyway, I will arrange my schedule around you. Is that ok?". We exchange some pictograms, and she comments "I'll take your stress away," "I like you," + "All that you do I will accept." (with a humble pictogram referring to her job as an S&M slave), "you can be sexy in front of me, I like you a lot" and then sends one last photo of her being bent over with her twin nearly touching her doggy style pussy lips. I responded by saying 'you girls are wild' and she says 'I'm not.' Finally, she sends a personal video of her going to bed.

This girl seems all sex and no desire to get deeper than that but yet just 2 weeks ago, she was telling me she will find a better man who is single (I was trying to genuinely encourage her to do that but in retrospect I think that she wanted me to answer in another way).
 
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jhingy567 said:
hmm... Do you think, by any chance, that she is a member of TAG ?
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Ha ha. I get your point. But a very direct question she had asked me told me she had never heard of TAG nor was a member. Little does she know and others here as well. I can't say anymore than that.
But yeah, I imagined that banana b-day peel wasn't the first video.
 
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Penis, meet blender.

You already know what is going to happen if you start it again so I for one won't be having any compassion for you later.
 
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