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Sorry I would like to add that I mainly refer to the following part of Solongs posting:
On this statement about nampa...

And if the hotel, married women and college students tend to be fine with short stays (2 to 3 hours), which can be 4,000 (40 dollars) or less. For working women, they are often fine with short stays at the hotel on weekdays, if there is some reason not to go to your place or hers. So dinner and short hotel stay where ONLY the guy paid would be around 12,000 yen (120 dollars) or less (often less). Less than 10,000 yen (100 dollars) if she offsets the cost a bit.

Time wise, it's actually almost the same for searching on the Internet. Sending chain e-mails to various Internet dating sites is about the same as looking for attractive women on escort websites, once you have created a template message and/or setup a profile. Sometimes women message your profile...

Street nampa, once you have skill, isn't difficult once you lose the fear of rejection. You would talk to women on your way to and from work. So not really putting a burden on your time.

Even if you travel around looking for women, where it might cost you time, the money spent is none to little. So nampa is more about effort, than expense.

How do you talk these married women, students, or others to the above? What is the Magic template and/or Profile? How do I get the skill of street nampa? In Tokyo everyone rushes from A to B, in the Trains noone talks. How to get from the friendly sotou to a Hotel room? btw. I am 40.

Thank you for advice!
 
Sorry I would like to add that I mainly refer to the following part of Solongs posting:


How do you talk these married women, students, or others to the above? What is the Magic template and/or Profile? How do I get the skill of street nampa? In Tokyo everyone rushes from A to B, in the Trains noone talks. How to get from the friendly sotou to a Hotel room? btw. I am 40.

Thank you for advice!

It would be way too complicated and long to try to explain pick up technique here.

However, it's not as hard as it seems. You have to primarily RID yourself of the FEAR of REJECTION and being overly self-conscious (feeling easily embarrassed) in public.

There are 2 sources that I can vouch for to help you:

1. www.japanlair.com

You may want to use their forum and e-book.

2. www.justinwaynedating.com

Justin Wayne is among thee most realistic and practical pickup masters out there. He has done more than "talk" or "lay out just another theory", but gives video proof of what he does.

His methodology (particularly Domino Effect) is very similar to my own. It explains physical, verbal, and geographical sexual escalation. I was very surprised to see such a concept out there. The more old school and hard core swingers understand this theory, though their wording can be a bit different.

I think things that work (like the wheel) are often discovered and rediscovered by many different sources.

If those 2 sources don't bring you up to speed, I don't think anything can.
 
You have to primarily RID yourself of the FEAR of REJECTION and being overly self-conscious (feeling easily embarrassed) in public.

Precisely so imo also.

Easier said than done, of course, but really not all that hard.

-Ww
 
@Roderick

It may help you to understand escalating interactions towards a mutual sexual encounter.

1) Physical (KINO)

It's seeing if a woman likes you by "touch testing". Hugs, holding her hand, kissing, etc...

It seems simple, but many guys fail to realize that going from talking at dinner, then trying to have sex is a huge jump. Such a big stressful jump, that many guys (and women) have huge problems getting over it and starting a physical relationship. Especially in Japan, as many Japanese are excessively shy and are "stiff" in public. And besides being Japanese, Westerners can have huge social-religious-fear issues that make physical connections difficult.

2) Verbal Escalation

Verbal means to interject sex in some form in the conversation, so that it enters her sub-conscious or conscious mind.

It's about making the jump from a nothing platonic relationship to romantic one. If a woman thinks you are just a pal or has the wrong mindset about you, like a another girlfriend or a business associate, they don't want to have a romantic relationship (except to take your money).

You make tasteful sexual (emphasis on tasteful, but still clearly sexual) comments or tell a fun sexual story. If you are really good, you can make women horny, feel comfortable about getting horny with you, OR be aware that she is horny.

3) Geographical Escalation

It means going to someplace that you can have sex. Maybe a club bathroom, your car, a hotel, a swinger club, her/your house, etc...

Many guys make the mistake of letting a woman talk them into going on a date to someplace they don't know. Even if the date goes well and they are kiss making out with her, no place to go, so WASTED chance. Many guys plan dates very poorly. So go to the movies in a no-where place, go home, and it ends up the girl never sees them again or they become a "buddy".

Geographical, works with physical and verbal. You are moving the interaction towards a romantic-sexual connection and a place that you can have sex at.

Why is it important for guys to have some understanding of this?

Women have a "secret" they try to hide or dismiss the importance of. They have MASSIVE sexual oppourtunity that men usually do NOT have and can do "sex on demand." Many women can get sex whenever they feel like it.

Because men have testosterone, there is always some "thirsty" men willing to "orbit" around women for weeks, pay them money, even marry them in the mistaken belief that this will allow them to get sex regularly (HUGE mistaken belief).

By learning skills, men give themselves more oppourtunity with women. In this way, they have more options in general.
 
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@Roderick

It may help you to understand escalating interactions towards a mutual sexual encounter.

1) Physical (KINO)

It's seeing if a woman likes you by "touch testing". Hugs, holding her hand, kissing, etc...

It seems simple, but many guys fail to realize that going from talking at dinner, then trying to have sex is a huge jump. Such a big stressful jump, that many guys (and women) have huge problems getting over it and starting a physical relationship. Especially in Japan, as many Japanese are excessively shy and are "stiff" in public.

2) Verbal Escalation

Verbal means to interject sex in some form in the conversation, so that it enters her sub-conscious or conscious mind.

It's about making the jump from a nothing platonic relationship to romantic one. If a woman thinks you are just a pal, like a girlfriend or a business associate, they don't want to have a romantic relationship (except to take your money).

You make tasteful sexual (emphasis on tasteful, but still clearly sexual) comments or tell a fun sexual story. If you are really good, you can make women horny, feel comfortable about getting horny with you, OR be aware that she is horny.

3) Geographical Escalation

It means going to someplace that you can have sex. Maybe a club bathroom, your car, a hotel, a swinger club, her/your house, etc...

Many guys make the mistake of letting a woman talk them to going on a date to someplace they don't know. Even if the date goes well and they are kiss making out with her, no place to do, so wasted chance. Men guys plan dates very poorly. So go to the movies in a no-where place, go home, and it ends up they girl never sees then again or they become a "buddy".

Geographical, works with physical and verbal. You are moving the interaction towards a romantic sexual connection and place that they can have sex.

Why is it important for guys to have some understanding of this?

Women have a secret they try to hide or dismiss the importance of. They have MASSIVE sexual oppourtunity that men don't have and sex on demand.

Because men have testosterone, there is always some "thirsty" men willing to "orbit" around them for weeks, pay them money, even marry them in the mistaken belief that this will allow them to get sex regularly.

By learning skills, men give themselves more oppourtunity. In this way, they have more options.
I figured you had advanced pick up knowledge. If I may indulge ( may need to be split off into a new topic- my apologies for the derailment but this is great info), two questions:

1. How much alpha game, vs. beta game is needed in Japan. In my experience, too much alpha has scared women away. More beta game needed?

2. In p4p, it's more or less a done deal, but I'd imagine even providers are attracted to a little bit of alpha. What's the level needed for maximum enjoyment there?
 
It's not so much about personality or disposition, but about understanding how to move the interaction towards sexual-romantic.

Beta hurts you, in the long run, because women often abuse such men for money, disrespect them, and/or cheat on them. Arguably, many women have a sexual-instinctual attraction towards alpha, but find betas useful like "tools".

On p4p, it wouldn't usually matter unless it's a sugarbaby situation, because natural attraction can be factor.

I think men should give themselves options, so p4p or pickup is a choice you make and not being forced to do something because you don't have a choice.
 
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It's not so much about personality or disposition, but about understanding how to move the interaction towards sexual-romantic.

Beta hurts you, in the long run, because women often abuse such men for money, disrespect them, and/or cheat on them. Arguably, many women have a sexual-instinctual attraction towards alpha, but find betas useful like "tools".

On p4p, it wouldn't usually matter unless it's a sugarbaby situation, because natural attraction can be factor.

I think men should give themselves options, so p4p or pickup is a choice you make and not being forced to do something because you don't have a choice.
I wonder if "Alpha" and "Beta" translate the same way there as here. When I try to push the whole " alpha" thing in an American context, " swag" comes into play, which seems like it could hurt you in Asia, if only because you are giving local males reason to AMOG you big time. Plus an alpha there might have what would be considered beta traits here, like working long hours to provide.

I don't know - I'm always searching for wisdom regarding Japan and romantic success. I think it's because the "just be yourself" approach really breaks down due to culture differences here. For example, in western/Latin countries humor has always been part of my charm. I've found Japanese humor unfathomable and my own humor seems completely unintelligible to Japanese women. I can make guys laugh with slapstick. That doesn't endear one to women though.
 
What does "AMOG" mean?

-Ww

This is part of hardcore pickup lingo. AMOG = Alpha Male OF Group

This is a guy that may BLOCK or CHALLENGE you when talking to women in his group, in his area, his ethnic group, or his race. It's part of male territorial behavior.

These types of guys can be far from Alpha, but really Beta male orbiters (like a satellite orbits Earth) (also known as SIMPS and lame). These are males that hover around and befriend women (who DON'T like them romantically or sexually) with the hopes/dreams of eventually winning her over to get sex OR who look to take advantage of her at any weak moment. Like if she gets drunk, depressed from breaking up with her boyfriend or husband, etc... They often don't have the balls to talk to women directly OR they are overly obsessed with a particular woman who hasn't shown the same interest back.

Usually, the women that AMOGs, ORBITERS, SIMPS, etc... are going after DO NOT have romantic-sexual attraction to them, thus they are trapped in the "FRIENDS ONLY" zone. And such women may ABUSE such men for favors or use them to BOOST her EGO, knowning they are "thirsty" or "orbiters".

Hardcore pickup types have all kinds of tactics to get around, befriend, or "disable" these AMOGs, orbiters, SIMPS, etc... guys FROM INTERFERING with them while trying to talk to a specific woman they like.

It's primary about the guy getting past people that want to interfere and block him.
 
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I wonder if "Alpha" and "Beta" translate the same way there as here. When I try to push the whole " alpha" thing in an American context, " swag" comes into play, which seems like it could hurt you in Asia, if only because you are giving local males reason to AMOG you big time. Plus an alpha there might have what would be considered beta traits here, like working long hours to provide.

I don't know - I'm always searching for wisdom regarding Japan and romantic success. I think it's because the "just be yourself" approach really breaks down due to culture differences here...

I wouldn't get overly caught up in definitions of masculinity, so much as FOCUS on your OBJECTIVE of talking to women and establishing romantic-sexual relationships.

Japan definitely has a different thinking of what masculine is, in comparison to the West. Especially younger Japanese, that are far more effeminate than older generation Japanese men. However, there is a global trend of males being afflicted with being more effeminized, metrosexual, and bisexual in general.

Be that as it may, there are many ways and styles to be successful with women. Guys who are macho or metrosexual can both be successful. There are always women that will be attracted to different types of guys.

The key, is more on how you approach and establish romantic-sexual relationships. Your individual style and characteristics can be fine, as long as you are clean, hygenic, and dress in fashions that highlight you (not give you a bad appearance). Being dirty, smelly, and sloppy doesn't usuall go over well.

Many guys mess up, because they are too afraid of rejection, don't know how to move the date interaction towards sex, and/or plan the date/meeting very poorly. It's often their methodology that is a total mess, in addition to cowardice.
 
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D0n't know if it is true or not but I've heard that it can be very dangerous to date a married woman in Japan since the husband has the right to sue you which could incidently make you lose your visa.
Can someone confirm?
 
Majimekun if this is the case then there would a LOT of suing going on with Japanese husbands to Japanese husbands.
 
D0n't know if it is true or not but I've heard that it can be very dangerous to date a married woman in Japan since the husband has the right to sue you which could incidently make you lose your visa.
Can someone confirm?

I'm pretty sure this is at least partially true- I've certainly heard stories of the people getting sued for adultery, but generally that's a matter of 'loss of reputation' than the actual cheating part. I don't think you can lose your visa over a civil action, although many legal situations result in your employer or other visa sponsor being made aware of your mis-doings, which can certainly affect your employment.

Regardless, much like in the States you can minimize your exposure to such things by minimizing the amount of real information about you as possible, i.e., don't give out your full name, only use LINE or Google Voice instead of your real phone number, etc.
 
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This is part of hardcore pickup lingo. AMOG = Alpha Male OF Group

This is a guy that may BLOCK or CHALLENGE you when talking to women in his group, in his area, his ethnic group, or his race. It's part of male territorial behavior.

These types of guys can be far from Alpha, but really Beta male orbiters (like a satellite orbits Earth) (also known as SIMPS and lame). These are males that hover around and befriend women (who DON'T like them romantically or sexually) with the hopes/dreams of eventually winning her over to get sex OR who look to take advantage of her at any weak moment. Like if she gets drunk, depressed from breaking up with her boyfriend or husband, etc... They often don't have the balls to talk to women directly OR they are overly obsessed with a particular woman who hasn't shown the same interest back.

Usually, the women that AMOGs, ORBITERS, SIMPS, etc... are going after DO NOT have romantic-sexual attraction to them, thus they are trapped in the "FRIENDS ONLY" zone. And such women may ABUSE such men for favors or use them to BOOST her EGO, knowning they are "thirsty" or "orbiters".

Hardcore pickup types have all kinds of tactics to get around, befriend, or "disable" these AMOGs, orbiters, SIMPS, etc... guys FROM INTERFERING with them while trying to talk to a specific woman they like.

It's primary about the guy getting past people that want to interfere and block him.

The thing I hate most about simps is how even though they have absolutely no chance to win a girl's affection, they will still somehow have uncanny ability at ruining it for a guy who can.

In situations in which you are a foreigner, you can get AMOGed pretty hard just by some little simp/ white knight throwing out a few racist/ nationalistic talking points. You can kiss breaking through an Asian girl's last minute resistance goodbye if there's a super thirsty guy around to try and make them feel like race traitors.

A funny story explaining the term AMOG. One time in Spain I was in a bar. I was taking a break from quite a long period of continuous work, when this Italian woman started up a conversation while ignoring her boyfriend and his friends. The boyfriend was Scottish, so I talked with her about a Scottish band I liked, demonstrating that I understood they were an item and I was not interested. He walked by us, and when she asked him what he thought, he said "They're shit." In an angry voice. I shrugged it off and went back to a pleasant, totally platonic conversation with someone I was not interested in in the least. I go to the bathroom. I return and they are gone, and they apparently left a drawing of a penis with the words " cockblock" on it. I didn't care as it was obvious how thirsty those dudes were. Damn that guy handled all of that wrong.

The boyfriend takes a non- attractive woman on a trip to a foreign country, probably paying out the ass, she ignores him, she talks to a friendly, non- interested stranger, and then he acts as if he cockblocked me, when what really happened is that by exposing his insecurity he ended up cockblocking himself, probably fatally so. Just crazy how beta that fool was.
 
D0n't know if it is true or not but I've heard that it can be very dangerous to date a married woman in Japan since the husband has the right to sue you which could incidently make you lose your visa.
Can someone confirm?

I've seen situations of my friends, foreigners, and Japanese acquaintances getting sued. I was dating married women, when I got "scared straight" after seeing what happened to a few pals. The common theme and problem was getting involved TOO LONG and in a TOO OBVIOUS way with a married person, and the married person NOT protecting the information of their lover.

Usually the married couple are having severe relationship problems, that often involve sex, money, kids, physical distance/separation, and/or emotional neglect. Due to disagreements between them, REVENGE and SPYING become primary motives to "find something" on their spouse.

Suing is NOT so common in Japan, BUT it does happen. And there are many "out of court" settlements. Many guys just agree to PAY, and avoid court.

Japanese wives tend to sue because they see a way to get money. Japanese courts are not infected with feminism and bias towards women (like in the West) in nearly always rewarding child support and alimony to just women. Japanese divorces are more no-fault types where if you both agree to divorce, and you can make money and child custody deals among yourselves (NOT the court).

Consequently, if the wife smells a way to get cash as the relationship heads towards divorce, some will go for it. As custody, alimony, and child support are not guaranteed to Japanese women.

For husbands, they may want to embarrass and humiliate the cheating wife, and put themselves in a position to get FULL custody of the kids (unfit mother). In Japanese culture, humiliation and public shaming is particularly painful, especially in front of her family and job. And which the husband may make sure to do, while also putting the guy she was with in any kind of "hot water" too.

Don't underestimate that a private investigator won't be hired or that distance is protection. One of my pals had a wife in Okinawa and a girlfriend in Tokyo. His GIRLFRIEND and HER PARENTS, still got sued by his wife. He was living with his girlfriend.

If you are going to "play" with married people, you may want to do the following:

1) Meet 1x or a FEW times and LEAVE. Give minimum information and do NOT take her to your house or in your car. Never go to the married woman's house. Even in Japan, the husband might knife you and get away with it.

Go the love hotel route.

A few times, you can use the "I didn't know she/he was married" defense. But if they dig up e-mails and it's clear that the wife or husband told you, then you could be toast.

If she is saying she is married and clearly talking about her husband in e-mail. Pull you are shocked she is married or didn't tell you she was married, and RUN! Keep in mind that the spouse can use e-mails as PROOF.

2) Consider swinger clubs, swinger parties, and swinger couples.

Married women that go or that you take to swinger clubs and parties are not usually going to run their mouths and often HIDE everything about themselves and what they are doing.

Even if a private investigator follows the wife, he must become a MEMBER at the club or known at the party (which can be very hard), and it's difficult to identify a particular person. They will be forced to make a generalized report, which can still be embarrassing for the spouse, but PRORECTS the lover from a lawsuit.

Also MARRIED SWINGER couples are usually SAFE. They both are in agreement and open-minded about sex. Because they are swingers, the judge is unlikely to even hear the case or award either of them anything.

3) If you get involved in any type of long term relationship with a married person, be VERY CLEAR that it's SEXUAL ONLY (particularly with women) and that they are to PROTECT their own and your information.

Act as if you are being followed. There shouldn't be any phone records, detailed e-mails, her at your apartment, etc...

Some cheating married people are very smart, and they will usually make that clear in their actions. While others will act like the person they are cheating with is going to be the NEW husband or wife. They then splash your information and name everywhere, until it catches the attention of the spouse. Even they can purposely leave it around to make their spouse jealous in an insane game that you may not want to be involved in.

Be very clear about the mental state of the married person and outright ask about how they are protecting your information.

VISA

The foreigners that I saw get busted had Permanent Resident VISAs and SOFA (special American VISAs). Japanese immigration couldn't touch them. However, Americans under SOFA (military) can be subject to very old-fashioned and strict rules against adultery and may get fired or punished.

However, if it goes to Japanese court, it will be something that can be used against you in Japan. If you are under a Japanese Work VISA, I would advise to be very careful and avoid going to court. Your court records are something that Japanese immigration CAN SEE and may hold against you. It may also prevent you from getting a Permanent Resident VISA later.
 
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Majimekun if this is the case then there would a LOT of suing going on with Japanese husbands to Japanese husbands.

Many Japanese don't want anything to do with going to court or public shame, so more likely there has to be clear motives like money, child custody, revenge, etc...

Foreign men cheating with Japanese wives, may not understand ways to keep it down-low or the right type of Japanese women. Suing isn't all that common in Japan, but I've seen it enough times to be wary of it.

There are plenty of SINGLE women, including women that will date married men. From what I've seen, it's SAFER for a married man to date a single woman, than a single man with a married woman.

The married man can CONTROL and PROTECT any information getting to the wife, short of her hiring a private investigator on him (rare).

However, the single man CAN NOT control the married woman from LEAKING his information to the HUSBAND. Women are often better at hiding when they cheat, but the situation is different if the lover is a foreigner.

As a guy, married or single, I think it's better to go for single women over married women. This way, you are responsible for protecting your information.
 
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Geez! I thought the US had cornered the market on foolish litigation, but as far as I know (not that I've checked it out...I could definitely be mistaken) you can sue your spouse for divorce, basically breach of contract, for adultery in the US, but you cannot sue the person with whom your spouse is cheating. More generally, if A and B have a contract, I don't think that either of them can sue C, who had no part at all in the agreement, for helping/allowing one of them to violate the provisions of the contract; it is entirely the responsibility of the parties who made the arrangement.

-Ww
 
I HAD been looking for a married woman for quite some time via Metropolis. After some successes and more fails I have given up and decided if I need to get my rocks off I might as well P4P. Why? Over half of any answers to ads really were not sure they wanted to actually follow up and contact dropped off quickly. Very annoying. Some of those were women who found out their husbands had side orders and thought they would as revenge. No follow up. A good number of women were actually Chinese even though I specified I wanted to meet Japanese. Another set wanted a sugar daddy and 5-star treatment. In the end it was just all too much trouble and hit-and-miss. The recent thread here of legal implications is also true. Japan may not seem like an overt litigation society and generally confrontation is avoided - instead you will hit with monetary compensation if you are found at fault.
 
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Geez! I thought the US had cornered the market on foolish litigation, but as far as I know (not that I've checked it out...I could definitely be mistaken) you can sue your spouse for divorce, basically breach of contract, for adultery in the US, but you cannot sue the person with whom your spouse is cheating. More generally, if A and B have a contract, I don't think that either of them can sue C, who had no part at all in the agreement, for helping/allowing one of them to violate the provisions of the contract; it is entirely the responsibility of the parties who made the arrangement.

-Ww

The Japanese laws are partially why married Japanese women have to be even more sneakier than Western women. On the one hand they are a large source of possible sex, but you have to avoid putting yourself in a position where the husband can sue you (for damages).

A guy should be very careful and understand how to manage relationships with married women.

Luckily or unluckily, women are much harder to catch when cheating and husbands can be totally oblivious to whatever their wife is doing behind his back.

In the cases of people I've seen get caught ( 4 married men and 2 single men over a space of 10 years), the married guys got busted by the wife. 2 Japanese men and 2 foreign men. The wives sued the girlfriend and/or her parents too... 0,0

The 2 other single pals (1 Japanese and 1 foreign guy) were caught by the husband. 1 husband used a private investigator to follow the wife and busted the Japanese guy. My foreign pal was totally sold out by the wife. She was nuts and trying to make her husband jealous, so PURPOSELY put him into the middle of the dispute.

Only 2 went to court, as they were divorcing and it involved child custody too. The others settled out of court and paid. One pal (foreigner married and divorced a Japanese woman), disclosed that he settled out of court and paid about $30,000 dollars. He paid $15,000 dollars and his Japanese girlfriend's parents paid the other $15,000 dollars... 0,0

Mathematically, even spread out over 10 years, that's a high number to know about.
 
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D0n't know if it is true or not but I've heard that it can be very dangerous to date a married woman in Japan since the husband has the right to sue you which could incidently make you lose your visa.
Can someone confirm?

Absolutely true. Like Solong, I've seen a number of acquaintances end up on the receiving end of these suits. Some were discovered by private investigators, most were given up by the cheating spouse in a last ditch attempt to avoid divorce.

It's generally a slam-dunk, and the damages are set at three million yen plus fees. There is a statute of limitations, though - the suit must be filed within three years of the last incident of adultery. If you end up on the receiving end, you're generally better to settle - it keeps you out of court, and you're not on the hook for the legal fees.

I've also heard of scam cases where one spouse will seduce various men, get "caught", and then the other spouse will sue - at three million a head, an industrious couple can make some pretty fast bank.
 
@Sudsy

Single Female Scam

There are number of scams that SINGLE women (and sometimes their real boyfriend is an accomplice) do in Japan, that are somewhat related and follow a similar theme.

PRETEND she was sexually harassed on the train (or in public... doesn't have to be train as too popular), then SUE the guy or ask for money to drop charges under threat of him being jailed.

The setup is she physically backs up against the guy or she initiates getting inappropriately physical, then screams if he reacts positively to her advance. Sometimes the boyfriend rushes in to help apprehend the "pervert". She then asks for money before or after going to the police.

HOWEVER, the Japanese cops are now aware of the scam (though it took them YEARS to catch up) and question women very hard that appear suspicious. So the con artists will favor getting money to not call cops OR they go for the BIG money using a female the cops don't know and against a guy that appears to have lots of money.

Variations of this scam is to meet and SEDUCE STRANGERS. Act like she is willing for sex or really likes the guy, then suddenly go nuts and scream sexual harassment and pervert.

The key difference between this and nampa/pickup, is that SHE INITIATES by obviously flirting and advancing with the guy. The guy thinks she likes him and is pulled in. The woman will often look mentally off, oddly scared, or she may be making side glances/eye contact with her male accomplices nearby.

In nampa/pickup, the GUY should CHOOSE the woman to talk to, NOT the other way around, to avoid this trap. And the guy should choose the location to take her to, to include location of any follow up dates.

Again, her nearby boyfriend or male accomplices can come in to "help save" and apprehend the guy. They can ask for MONEY, before or after going to the police. Depends on the location, witnesses, and willingness for guy to pay.

These scams work by abusing the Japanese cultural tendency to settle out of court. The Japanese court system is arguably backwards and draconian in some ways. The courts often make up their mind before hearing the case and have a 95% conviction rate. Therefore the only way to get out of trouble is usuall NOT to go to court, convince the Japanese cops you are right beforehand, or settle with the other party (very popular).

Another variation is the secret hostess that have deals with bars in places like Roppongi, Shibuya, Shinjuku, etc... They pretend they like the guy, check if he is drunk, and push to make him buy 30,000 yen ($300 dollar) champagne at the club/bar.
 
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@Sudsy

Single Female Scam

There are number of scams that SINGLE women (and sometimes their real boyfriend is an accomplice) do in Japan, that are somewhat related and follow a similar theme.

PRETEND she was sexually harassed on the train (or in public... doesn't have to be train as too popular), then SUE the guy or ask for money to drop charges under threat of him being jailed.

The setup is she physically backs up against the guy or she initiates getting inappropriately physical, then screams if he reacts positively to her advance. Sometimes the boyfriend rushes in to help apprehend the "pervert". She then asks for money before or after going to the police.

HOWEVER, the Japanese cops are now aware of the scam (though it took them YEARS to catch up) and question women very hard that appear suspicious. So the con artists will favor getting money to not call cops OR they go for the BIG money using a female the cops don't know and against a guy that appears to have lots of money.

Variations of this scam is to meet and SEDUCE STRANGERS. Act like she is willing for sex or really likes the guy, then suddenly go nuts and scream sexual harassment and pervert.

The key difference between this and nampa/pickup, is that SHE INITIATES by obviously flirting and advancing with the guy. The guy thinks she likes him and is pulled in. The woman will often look mentally off, oddly scared, or she may be making side glances/eye contact with her male accomplices nearby.

In nampa/pickup, the GUY should CHOOSE the woman to talk to, NOT the other way around, to avoid this trap. And the guy should choose the location to take her to, to include location of any follow up dates.

Again, her nearby boyfriend or male accomplices can come in to "help save" and apprehend the guy. They can ask for MONEY, before or after going to the police. Depends on the location, witnesses, and willingness for guy to pay.

These scams work by abusing the Japanese cultural tendency to settle out of court. The Japanese court system is arguably backwards and draconian in some ways. The courts often make up their mind before hearing the case and have a 95% conviction rate. Therefore the only way to get out of trouble is usuall NOT to go to court, convince the Japanese cops you are right beforehand, or settle with the other party (very popular).

Another variation is the secret hostess that have deals with bars in places like Roppongi, Shibuya, Shinjuku, etc... They pretend they like the guy, check if he is drunk, and push to make him by 30,000 yen ($300 dollar) champagne at the club/bar.
Sounds like this scam plays to male egos. Thanks for the info.
 
interesting thread...I'm a married 42 yo guy who has only lived in Tokyo for 3 months, but it seems
I'm completely ignored by women, even though I'm extremely handsome and look practically like George Clooney.
I try to initiate interest by looking at women, particularly older sexy ones....I'm not to picky, I just want to be with someone
who is kind and speaks a little English (I am just learning Japanese, so I can hardly say anything). Besides women staring at
me in the beginning when they see a westerner on the Seibu Shinjuku line, that's it. When these women look at me like that, should
I initiate conversation, or is that considered rude? What do I do?, I am so sexually and emotionally frustrated and isolated here.
Besides my wife (who is cold and mean since we are now in her country) and children, I have no one to talk to....
I really want to meet a nice JP woman, for conversation and friendship, if nothing else......
 
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OKCupid perhaps or sugar dating if you are willing to spend some money...lots of options discussed in various TAG threads.

-Ww