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Service and/or Provider's Name:
Kirari Cafe - Eriko

Date of Encounter:
December 2018

Contact Method:
http://cafe-kirari.com/store_info/?sid=1

Appointment Length & Costs:
27 minutes, 6.3k to Kirari, 6.8k to LH, 20k to girl

Type/Location:
Ueno branch

Language Notes:
Japanese Only

Details of the Encounter:
The events below occurred about a month and a half ago. I wasn’t going to post about it, but one reason I decided to share this review is that by sharing the bad ones along with the good, it can give the users of this site a more complete picture of what’s out there. The other reason I’m posting this now, is the that it is the eve before the session I have booked with the awesome Alice in Wonderland for tomorrow morning. I have absolutely no doubts that my experience with her will be the opposite of the one I am writing about below.

There are other reviews on this site which detail Kirari’s business model, process, so I won’t go into that here. I went to the Ueno Branch. It was a Sunday evening. I signed up and paid the one time signing up fee of 2,100, giving a fake name for them to put on the back of my member’s card. I also paid another 2,100 for the day pass to be able to use any of the chain’s shops for that day. I walked up the stairs from reception and entered the room for men to view the girls through the one-way mirrors. There were 10 girls waiting for customers. I was surprised by the fact that most of them were young and very pretty. I guess I was just lucky since I doubt the choices are normally as good, from having read other reviews. After looking at the girls, I looked at the board where the numbered cards with the girl’s photo, name, age, and checkboxes for the things she’s up for are written. By “up for”, I mean choices for Karaoke or dinner, etc. I didn’t see a checkbox for Sex, but from the reviews I’d read here, I knew they were probably all available for sex at the right price; that price usually being 20k.

I pulled out the card for “Eriko, 19, Student” which corresponded to the number above the seat she was in. She wore a fluffy sweater over her blouse and a knee-length skirt. She was thin with breasts that were large for her petit frame. She had a very lovely ‘resting bitch face’ as another TAG contributor so aptly described it. Lol. She was typing blazingly fast on her mobile, presumably texting with a friend, which is a reasonable activity to engage in when you’re waiting for who knows how long while the ecchi ojisans on the other side of the one way glass silently size you up.

I went downstairs to reception and gave them Eriko’s card along with my members card and the day pass. They told me to wait in booth 2 and would have her come talk to me. These booths are just large enough for two people to sit next to each other and a curtain closes them off. Eriko arrived only a few seconds later. I guess they must have a light at each seat or something to notify a girl to come down. She smiled and sat down as I heard the beep of the timer she was holding starting. Apparently, they give you X minutes (5?10?) to talk with a girl before you must either make an arrangement with her or send her back and go up to pick another to talk with. Even though she was smiling and was polite, it was more the smile and politeness the waitress at the local Jonathan’s gives you as you order since they’re paid to do that.

And now comes my mistake. I will explain why it was a mistake later on. I was direct and said I would like to have sex with her at a local love hotel and would she agree to it for 20k. She readily agreed, and so in under a minute I was back at the reception desk, while she went upstairs, and paid another fee; this time 2,100 to finalize the girl accepting the arrangement and leaving with me. I got back my membership card and the day pass and waited in the stairwell until she came down with her jacket and bag.

Upon leaving the building to go to the love hotel a few blocks away, she said she was surprised I could speak Japanese well. I let her know it was because I’ve lived in Japan for many years. To prevent walking awkwardly in total silence, I asked her some more general questions. But she either didn’t answer or mumbled out something indistinct. I was fine with that part since I respect the fact that in her situation, she might not want to reveal much of her personal life. But the main reason she wasn’t talking was that 97.6% of her attention was directed towards her mobile’s screen, typing away to whoever on the other end. I was surprised she could walk and concentrate on typing like that at the same time. But on the other hand, in Tokyo I’m surrounded daily by teenagers walking around with their phones as if the Zombie Apocalypse has already occurred but no one noticed.

I decided to try not to let it irk me, since I was paying her for sex, not for her conversational skills. We arrived at the love hotel which was called “Le Chic.” I paid a little less than 7k for the room and we went up. She immediately sat on the sofa at the foot of the bed and told me I could take a shower while she picked up her phone to immediate continue typing away. I had sort of been expecting to take that together. I just assumed I was not her first client of the day, and she had already showered earlier after her last session. After I came back from the shower, she got up and said she was going to take one. I was not that phased by it, since even though showers together with a pretty girl is a nice activity, the main event would happen soon enough.

I was laying in bed and she came out with a towel wrapped around her and got under the covers with me as she slid her towel off. It had been a few decades since I’ve been in such proximity to a naked 19 year old, and never with one who had as body as great as hers; nice curve to her ass, slim waist, nicely shaped perky breasts which were large for her frame, and tiny cute nipples. My fingertips traced various patterns over and around her breasts as I asked her if there were any things she liked when having sex. She said, “Nope.” I thought, “OK. Fair enough, it might not be easy to pinpoint something you like.” So I asked the more important question, which was, “What things do you not like, or are not willing to do?” since I most definitely like finding that out ahead of time in order to avoid awkwardness later. This time she had an answer. “I don’t like kissing (on the mouth), and I don’t like kissing down there (i.e. giving blow jobs). Well, OK. I guess. Even though I do like BJ to get me hard, if I am not already, before penetrative sex, She was young and cute and had an awesome teenage body, so I was prone to accept whatever at that point.

I asked if I could give her a massage, since I find that is a good way to help a woman relax and slowly get aroused. Foreplay is very important to me, and massages are a good starting point. But she said, “No.” I had never encountered a woman before who didn’t want a massage, especially from a man she was getting paid to fuck but who wanted to volunteer to do that anyway as the clock was ticking. I asked her why, and she said it would hurt. I offered to do it gently, but still she refused. I tried to get her to turn over so that I could brush my lips over her back and ass at least, but she kept saying, “Kutsugutai” (ticklish) and turned back onto her back. “OK. Moving on, then,” I mumbled to myself. I asked her if I could eat her out. Thankfully, she agreed. So, I kissed and licked her nipples which seemed to arouse her a little (Finally!) and then kissed down her flat tummy. But she said “ticklish” again. I asked, “what about kissing your neck?” Again, “Ticklish”. I got down to her neatly trimmed bush and proceeded to kiss around it and lick up her inner thighs, being stymied at every front by the damn ticklishness. Finally, I circled her clit with my erect tongue tip. She seemed to be responding to it with some soft moans, but after only a minute, she suddenly sat up and said, “That’s enough of that.” Well, it loses something in translation. In Japanese, it was a little more indirect. Basically, she was telling me to just get on with the sex part, already. She motioned me to scoot up next to her and then proceeded to tug away at little Willy. I was pretty bummed out by now. I’ve posted before about my deep need to make the woman I’m with cum, or at least get really turned on via foreplay before sex. But Eriko wasn’t having any of it. She just wanted to yank enough to get me hard enough to hurry up and pop inside her so she could leave.

After minute of her trying to un-cook a limp spaghetti noodle, she was getting impatient, “It’s not getting hard, is it. What’s the matter?” At this point, I decided to tell her. “Well, can I ask you a personal question? Can you achieve orgasm with a man during sex?” “No,” was the reply. “Do most of your clients just have you lay there without foreplay and fuck you in Missionary position?” “Yeah, I guess,” said hesitantly. “So you don’t like to be kissed, don’t like giving blow jobs, don’t like receiving massages, don’t like being eaten out, can’t cum, and you’re asking me why I’m not getting hard?” I said in frustration. “Well, what should we do?” she asked blankly, like she didn’t give a shit either way since she already got paid. I lay back and said, “Maybe we should just forget about this.” Since there is no way I can have sex and cum with a girl who isn’t also into it. I cannot think of a pretty girl as just a living sex doll to lay their stiffly and cum into.

As soon as I said maybe we should forget about it, she immediately said, “OK, can I take a quick shower before we leave?” and got up and went into the bathroom. I sighed and got up and dressed. I waited for her to come back from the shower and get dressed. And the exact second her clothes were back on, her mobile was in her had and she was back to Zombie Mode. Obviously, I’m not the type of guy to ask for the 20k back (even though she did absolutely nothing for that money except 45 seconds of noodle yanking.) We returned the room key and left. She briefly Lifted her eyes off the mobile screen to say, “Well, bye then,” and turned and started the Zombie Shuffle back towards Kirari Café to wait for the next guy who is also a sucker for a nice body and face. I actually walked past and in front of her since I decided to go back to Kirari and find someone else since I still had the day pass and an hour and a half left on the room. I arrived back in the lobby of Kirari and the guy behind the counter looked surprised to see me after only a half hour. But he wordlessly took my membership card and day pass and I headed upstairs as I realized I’d just returned the room key, and I’d have to fork out another 20k to the next girl. I looked around the dim room, the ecchi ojisans sitting around, silently eyeing the pretty girls on the other side of the glass, and I felt like, what the fuck am I doing here? I went back downstairs and the guy behind the counter was surprised, yet again, that here I was leaving so soon, a second time. I didn’t say anything to him about Eriko’s service, since I knew it wasn’t his, or Kirari’s problem. As I was going to exit, none other than Zombie Eriko shuffled in, eyes so glued to her phone that she did not even notice the guy who just paid her 20k plus love hotel fee some minutes ago to not get fucked was standing right in front of her. I walked around her without her seeing me and exited the shop with a tank of unused Libido at the Full mark and an almost 30k lighter wallet.


What I took from this experience:

1) Looks don’t mean shit when it comes to sex.

2) Number one above is a lie. Looks do matter, but what matters more is if the woman is into it as well.

3) The big mistake I referred to at the beginning was that when the two of us sat down to talk at the beginning, I should have not only negotiated a price, but should have been much more specific as to what I expected to receive for that money, such as asking her:

a. Do you like giving blow jobs?
b. Do you like receiving massages?
c. Are you ticklish, and if so, does your ticklishness ever prevent a man from doing something sexual to you?
d. Can you achieve orgasm from being eaten out? From penetrative sex?
e. Are there any sexual activities you particularly enjoy/want?
f. Are there any sexual activities you don’t like/not willing to do?

4) Print out a questionnaire with the questions above and bring to the booth with a pen and have the girl fill it out during the 5 minutes we have together.

5) Tear up paper questionnaire and just ask her verbally when she starts backing out of the booth upon seeing said questionnaire.

Review Independence: Was this review requested by the provider/agency?:
This review was written freely without a request from the agency/provider.

Final Thoughts:
Not Recommended.

Closing Comments:
I am sure some guys find great girls via Kirari and their system is very useful for them. But I am not one of those guys.
 
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Yes, this precisely describes the experience I posted about momo cafe a year ago.

I had one middling experience there (SImply because the girl was so utterly beautiful, not the service) and one utterly awful experience very close to yours.

There is no customer control (Which is why you have to vet as in your steps), no training and the girls I've met just seem to take it as putting themselves as a hole.

Would not be surprised if that girl was looking for other customers.

I've been in the cafe when there are like 25 JP customers in very busy times and some stay there for hurs
One protip: I notice other JP customers avoid like the PLAGUE any girl that comes back even if it is hours later. Girl had a 11 people doing a drawing for her first time, 2nd time nobody got her until a few minutes later when I decided to give it at ry...
 
Yes, this precisely describes the experience I posted about momo cafe a year ago.

Thanks for your comment and the advice. I’m sorry you’ve have similar, less than awesome, experiences using that system, as well. And what you just described was probably exactly the case for me. I didn’t mention it in the review, but I actually saw Eriko coming into reception when I was registering. Maybe that’s one reason why when I got upstairs, she caught my eye. The fact that none of the other guys were checking out her card, even though she had just come up and was stunningly beautiful, even compared to the other girls there at the time, should have been a red flag to me if I had known any better at the time. So more than likely you’re right that the other guys had seen her come and go more than once that day and had put two and two together.
 
This is the exact same experience I had at the same location, I bet it was the same girl. Totally sucked.

Thanks for the comment. Hopefully, we’ve all just been unlucky, and the majority of girls are ok. But sadly, its starting to look like a not uncommon experience. As I type this, I see a link below for your own Kirari review. I’ll go read it now.
 
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Kirari is the pits. Most people go there once and never return.

Bearing in mind, the rough looking Johns who frequent the place. And that the ‘ladies’ are just going there for a quick buck because they probably couldn’t even keep a job at a regular adult-orientated business - it seems pretty obvious that Kirari is a STD hotspot. I’m sure the raw-dog brigade appreciate its services.

Ironically, the OP might have dodged a bullet by not getting full service.....
 
Kirari is the pits. Most people go there once and never return.

Bearing in mind, the rough looking Johns who frequent the place. And that the ‘ladies’ are just going there for a quick buck because they probably couldn’t even keep a job at a regular adult-orientated business - it seems pretty obvious that Kirari is a STD hotspot. I’m sure the raw-dog brigade appreciate its services.

Ironically, the OP might have dodged a bullet by not getting full service.....

True. While I’m sure there are some nice girls who work through there for good reasons (for example one my friend spent some time with who was a sweet girl, into the sex, and doing that work to earn money to help with her best friend’s wedding), I’m sure you’re right that an even larger number are there with the sole purpose of earning as much money as quickly as possible, whether or not they give any value for the money they receive. And your point about the heightened risk of contracting an STD is one I’m glad to be warned of. That only strengthens my resolve not to use such places again and stick to the wonderful escorts reviewed favorably here in TAG, such as Alice, Manami, and Shimonka. Thanks for your comment.
 
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Yup... Mongering can be risky. But like you say, classy ladies like Simonka and Manami negate risks as much as possible so their clients don’t need to stress.

I’m thankful to TAG Managememt for creating and maintaining this platform and to you and the other people who contribute meaningful content. If it wasn’t for TAG, I never would have known about awesome people like Alice, Manami, and Shimonka. (^_^)
 
There is no customer control (Which is why you have to vet as in your steps),
Basically this. There are definitely nice girls there, but nobody makes them be nice.
Deai cafes have as an advantage that you can see the girl first, so i think its about what you value, looks vs service (service at a shop where girls get fired if there are many complaints).

I don’t see why it should be such a red flag if a girl comes back hours later. I think guys just don’t pick her because they like to think they are the first one that day usually.
 
Basically this. There are definitely nice girls there, but nobody makes them be nice.
Deai cafes have as an advantage that you can see the girl first, so i think its about what you value, looks vs service (service at a shop where girls get fired if there are many complaints).

I don’t see why it should be such a red flag if a girl comes back hours later. I think guys just don’t pick her because they like to think they are the first one that day usually.

Ah. I see. Thanks so much for your reply and your viewpoint. I greatly value it because you’re not only a great person, but you are in a position to know exactly what your talking about in regards to issues like this. (^_^)
 
Basically this. There are definitely nice girls there, but nobody makes them be nice.

9 out of 10 reports of these girls are negative so it depends on your definition of ‘nice’.

‘Nobody makes them be nice” - you mean the clients are rough. Well, the Johns looked like homeless guys - so not surprising.

The bottom line is the girls who go to Kirari tend to have some ‘issues’. Guys who tend to go there go there because they know they can be more abusive and aggressive than at a delivery place or a pink salon.

There is nothing ‘nice’ about Kirari. It is the bottom of the barrel. A flea pit. The girls are more desperate than ‘nice’.
 
9 out of 10 reports of these girls are negative so it depends on your definition of ‘nice’.

‘Nobody makes them be nice” - you mean the clients are rough. Well, the Johns looked like homeless guys - so not surprising.

The bottom line is the girls who go to Kirari tend to have some ‘issues’. Guys who tend to go there go there because they know they can be more abusive and aggressive than at a delivery place or a pink salon.

There is nothing ‘nice’ about Kirari. It is the bottom of the barrel. A flea pit. The girls are more desperate than ‘nice’.

I know the reply was directed to Alice, and I’m sure she’ll add her two cents to it. But well, while I agree that there are many desperate girls there and your right that the men they attract can get away with being meaner than other places where there are controls in place. But there are some nice girls there if you’re lucky, such as the sweet one my friend found who was making some money to help with her best friend’s wedding. And in another post’s comments, Alice let us know that in the past she herself has used Kirari, albeit as more of a place to kill some time but has offered her services there. So while it’s like finding a diamond in a haystack to walk in and see an angel like Alice sitting there, it’s not impossible to find a nice girl there. But I agree that generally speaking, because of the lack of training or any sort of controls in place, as well as the greater risk of STDs, that I will probably not frequent such places again. Especially, since via TAG I was able to learn about the existence of women such as Alice, Manami, and Shimonka, all of whom make the desire to go to a deai cafe disappear when I can be in the presence of any of those three instead. (^_^)
 
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9 out of 10 reports of these girls are negative so it depends on your definition of ‘nice’.

‘Nobody makes them be nice” - you mean the clients are rough. Well, the Johns looked like homeless guys - so not surprising.

The bottom line is the girls who go to Kirari tend to have some ‘issues’. Guys who tend to go there go there because they know they can be more abusive and aggressive than at a delivery place or a pink salon.

There is nothing ‘nice’ about Kirari. It is the bottom of the barrel. A flea pit. The girls are more desperate than ‘nice’.

I have never visited Kirari ( or an equivalent) but find the concept very interesting....possibly uniquely Japanese(?).

How many times have you visited Kirari? The conclusions that you draw, suggest you have visited numerous stores on numerous occasions.
 
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Not directed at me but of the 4 times I took a girl out of Kirari (plus another time or two when nothing doable on offer at realistic prices and once that I just needed a dinner date) 3 of those were mediocre maguro experiences, one was outstanding.
 
How many times have you visited Kirari? The conclusions that you draw, suggest you have visited numerous stores on numerous occasions.

I have been one and a half times. The ‘half time’ was when I went up in a stinking elevator with the Kirari crew and did a u-turn.

You can find less than positive information on Kirari on the Internet. Kirari is what it is. There is no reason to dress it up as something different. It is a seedy hole.

Try it once for the experience.
 
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I know the reply was directed to Alice, and I’m sure she’ll add her two cents to it. But well, while I agree that there are many desperate girls there and your right that the men they attract can get away with being meaner than other places where there are controls in place. But there are some nice girls there if you’re lucky, such as the sweet one my friend found who was making some money to help with her best friend’s wedding. And in another post’s comments, Alice let us know that in the past she herself has used Kirari, albeit as more of a place to kill some time but has offered her services there. So while it’s like finding a diamond in a haystack to walk in and see an angel like Alice sitting there, it’s not impossible to find a nice girl there. But I agree that generally speaking, because of the lack of training or any sort of controls in place, as well as the greater risk of STDs, that I will probably not frequent such places again. Especially, since via TAG I was able to learn about the existence of women such as Alice, Manami, and Shimonka, all of whom make the desire to go to a deai cafe disappear when I can be in the presence of any of those three instead. (^_^)
Yep, i have tried it and honestly, the men who do strike a deal (not the trolls who call girls over and offer 10.000 for bbfs) are normal and not mean at all. They usually make a point to confirm if kissing and bbj are on offer because they know a good part of the girls are maguro. I’d say i have fond memories of the people i have met in deai cafe but sadly the standard price is a bit lower than what i hope for so I only really go in cases where i think it may be busier than usual and something interesting could happen, or when i’m in a different neighborhood than usual and have time to kill and want a free place to hang out. I have met very nice women in deai cafe as well, but most of them are not particularly into men and not interested if the guy has a good experience or not. I met a girl who seemed highly sexed but she was pochari. So i’d say maybe go for the less popular girls since they probably don’t expect to be called again so don’t feel a need to rush back.
As for diseases, thats true, if a girl uses only deai cafe she likely does not get tested. Japanese girls are not the most sex ed conscious, to stereotype. Monthly Testing is mandatory for soaplands as far as i know. For delivery health, i think the more legit places (like jk style i’d guess) demand it, the smaller ones maybe don’t. Also they might not demand bloodtests. As for TAG indies, we are not forced to test but afaik all do it for our own peace of mind. I’d say pink salons are probably still the scariest for diseases.
 
Anyway, as long as girls don’t even offer bbj, i think its a bit unfair to say they’d be “high std risk”

They say that people who have active sex lives can be in more risk. But I guess if these girls just lay there then the risk is lower? :eek::D