Full time jobs a Japanese woman can get without a 4 year degree?

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So my Japanese wife often complains about her job and she works even less than part time, but every time I tell her to try talking to her boss about getting more hours or switching to full-time, she just says they usually don't do that in Japan?

She said that the people working full-time were hired as full-timers directly and didn't switch from part-time?

I know that she is a little lazy and hates working but I hope I can help her find a full-time job she would actually enjoy.

She does an acting class for fun and enjoys that but that is a competitive career to get into.

If I have her go to a staffing agency to look for more stable work, will literally all these jobs require a 4 year college degree?

What types of work opportunities does she have (aside from jobs at combinis and fast food restaurants)?
 
If I have her go to a staffing agency to look for more stable work, will literally all these jobs require a 4 year college degree?

What types of work opportunities does she have (aside from jobs at combinis and fast food restaurants)?
Without some networking, of course your initial options will be limited since most decent jobs use the degree as a entry ticket to the interview. (Starting point)

I'm sure there are opportunities out there. What about some sort of self-starting business? Don't rely on others... build your own. (Just an idea...)

If she goes to something like Hello Work or a staffing (private) agency, they should have something available for non-degree holders.

People that complain but don't take action are usually disappointed on their own accord for a lack of motivation to actually do something with their lives.
Yet, they blame everyone else, in some cases.

She does an acting class for fun and enjoys that but that is a competitive career to get into.
Is she really good enough to be more than an extra in any casting arrangement? Start getting headshots and looking for a talent broker if she's confident enough. Though, the pay and time investment is shit when you're at the bottom of that industry.
 
I’m sorry but it almost sounds like you’re talking about your teenage daughter. Are we talking about a grown up woman here?
 
I’m sorry but it almost sounds like you’re talking about your teenage daughter. Are we talking about a grown up woman here?

Unfortunately, yes we are...I do believe she needs a few more years or life lessons to grow up more.
 
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Remember that old saying about leading a horse to water?

But you can't make them drink...yep.

I can only help her so much, but lately I have been focusing on starting my own projects. I just finished a website for my English school and working with my brother and a good friend on another project.
 
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If I remember correctly you have a rather complicated relationship with your mother-in-law. Is she taking any part in supporting your wife?
 
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If I remember correctly you have a rather complicated relationship with your mother-in-law. Is she taking any part in supporting your wife?

Well, my wife is still living under her roof, so she is still supporting her in that way, but I'm paying half of their rent and helping out with insurance and food money each month.
 
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I suppose thats very broad and depends on her interests.
Of course most things need an education. Maybe not university but some job school to learn the skill which also takes a few years.. those are often possible to combinate with the work, but the pay of the work can be very low because the person is “just a trainee”.
 
Of course most things need an education.

Despite Japan being a very education focused country still less than half of the population over 35 years of old have bachelor degree from university (so in effect if they were not Japanese by birth they would have a hard time getting visas to move in :p)

And we having this discussion in TAG I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the fact that the various sex shops don't care if you have a degree or not. I have personally met several high school drop-outs that way too. :eek::D
 
Well, my wife is still living under her roof, so she is still supporting her in that way, but I'm paying half of their rent and helping out with insurance and food money each month.
I believe many of us are curious: your wife is living with her mother, while you live with another woman. That sound pretty much like separated, even if not formally divorced. You pay part of your mother-in-law’s rent. Isn’t that the woman that hates you and doesn’t want anything to do with you? And you are trying to find your wife a job. Is there a master plan?
 
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And we having this discussion in TAG I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the fact that the various sex shops don't care if you have a degree or not. I have personally met several high school drop-outs that way too. :eek::D

That was my first thought as well, but you beat me to it. ;):LOL:
 
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I believe many of us are curious: your wife is living with her mother, while you live with another woman. That sound pretty much like separated, even if not formally divorced. You pay part of your mother-in-law’s rent. Isn’t that the woman that hates you and doesn’t want anything to do with you? And you are trying to find your wife a job. Is there a master plan?

Well, even though my wife's mother hates me I don't mind helping her mother out financially because that in turn helps out my wife.

Even if we don't love each other anymore, I still care about her and don't want to just cut her off completely knowing that it will have a major negative financial impact on her life.

I hope to successfully relocate to Tokyo with the roommate, find more stable full-time work (which will be A LOT easier in Tokyo than here in Shizuoka) and start saving up money. I want to keep helping them out financially in moderation of course as I have to support myself as well.

I also plan to have a lot of money saved up for when my wife's mother passes away (she is healthy now but not young). I want to have enough money saved to help afford the ambulance ride, hospital bills (which should mostly be covered by the private insurance I will help them with), funeral and burial costs.

I know this is all an expensive process but she doesn't make good money and there are many situations in Japan where poor peoples' parents die and they don't have enough money to pay for all of these things and they are supposedly arrested...I plan to research more into this myself but this is what my wife told me.

I believe that the police would most likely just detain not arrest people unable to pay for everything and maybe have the children of the deceased parent explain the situation rather than put them behind bars.

Anyway, the master plan is to keep helping her financially and emotionally, while making sure that we divorce in the future in a civil manner...then there is the relocation to Tokyo which might happen sometime next year.
 
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Despite Japan being a very education focused country still less than half of the population over 35 years of old have bachelor degree from university (so in effect if they were not Japanese by birth they would have a hard time getting visas to move in :p)
Like i said I don’t mean a bachelor, i mean a semmon gakko education to be a specialist in the field.
 
Yes, I will definitely look into this with my wife...but wouldn't enrolling into a program like this cost tons of money?
There are places that let you work a few hours during the day time and study during the evening i think. The downside is that the pay is very bad as long as you have not finished the training yet.
 
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Like i said I don’t mean a bachelor, i mean a semmon gakko education to be a specialist in the field.

They are considered to be in similar category as universities; only difference is getting a diploma from senmon gakkou takes 2-3 years instead of 4 years in "normal university". Unfortunately the prices are comparable to private universities too; if I remember correctly around 1.3 million per year compared to 1.4 million in private university. Also the first year is even higher with all those entrance fees and other payments.

I would think there is one category of companies that don't care too much about degrees and that is the foreign companies in Japan. If you have skills they can use nobody would be digging too much in your titles or grades in school. For most Japanese that's bad news as their only real merit is their degree from a well-known university; the fact that they did nothing else there than drink cheap beer doesn't impress many foreigners but they will be still able to find employment from Japanese companies.
 
They are considered to be in similar category as universities; only difference is getting a diploma from senmon gakkou takes 2-3 years instead of 4 years in "normal university". Unfortunately the prices are comparable to private universities too; if I remember correctly around 1.3 million per year compared to 1.4 million in private university. Also the first year is even higher with all those entrance fees and other payments.

I would think there is one category of companies that don't care too much about degrees and that is the foreign companies in Japan. If you have skills they can use nobody would be digging too much in your titles or grades in school. For most Japanese that's bad news as their only real merit is their degree from a well-known university; the fact that they did nothing else there than drink cheap beer doesn't impress many foreigners but they will be still able to find employment from Japanese companies.
I think that’s the most depressing part for people who have completed their masters studies in Japan: the lack of motivation on the side of your fellow classmates. (Also, sadly sometimes racism or ijime from professors who accept foreign students to get more cash flowing to their lab or studio)

Alice’s suggestion is also nice but a bit pricey. I had met some hostesses who were over 35 already and they were going to Senmon Gakkou for fashion, hair and makeup for future job opportunities. If you don’t mind your wife working in these fields, I think working in Mizu shobai or fuzoku to save up for your education is a great idea. Gaining control of her finances could kickstart a new life for her and give her plenty of motivation. (And your romance could flare up after she rediscovers her sexuality) I am very serious by the way: Financial security has made me more motivated about other aspects of my life.
 
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I think that’s the most depressing part for people who have completed their masters studies in Japan: the lack of motivation on the side of your fellow classmates.

I haven't noticed that from people in graduate schools, but the undergraduates are a totally different species. Some of them haven't studied since entrance examinations. As one student put it "the only thing you need to do to get a degree after entering is not to die".
 
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Yes, I will definitely look into this with my wife...but wouldn't enrolling into a program like this cost tons of money?

If she is eager to find a job and also eager to be trained, I would suggest her to visit a "Hello Work" office to file a job-seeker registration. With the Hello Work's recommendation, she, as a registered job-seeker, may be able to receive a training for free at a public vocational training institution.
http://www3.jeed.or.jp/shizuoka/poly/kyushoku/index.html
 
I think that’s the most depressing part for people who have completed their masters studies in Japan: the lack of motivation on the side of your fellow classmates. (Also, sadly sometimes racism or ijime from professors who accept foreign students to get more cash flowing to their lab or studio)

Alice’s suggestion is also nice but a bit pricey. I had met some hostesses who were over 35 already and they were going to Senmon Gakkou for fashion, hair and makeup for future job opportunities. If you don’t mind your wife working in these fields, I think working in Mizu shobai or fuzoku to save up for your education is a great idea. Gaining control of her finances could kickstart a new life for her and give her plenty of motivation. (And your romance could flare up after she rediscovers her sexuality) I am very serious by the way: Financial security has made me more motivated about other aspects of my life.
I didn’t wanna suggest it earlier, but hostess or snack is actually a great job opportunity for women and its pretty non sexual except from some harassment but that could also happen in a office to be fair.
 
I didn’t wanna suggest it earlier, but hostess or snack is actually a great job opportunity for women and its pretty non sexual except from some harassment but that could also happen in a office to be fair.

Can take a toll on the health though with the crazy hours and the drinking.
 
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Well, my wife is still living under her roof, so she is still supporting her in that way, but I'm paying half of their rent and helping out with insurance and food money each month.
You are not living with them. You are eventually going to get divorced. You now have PR. I recall that the mother in law was not at all helpful in providing documentation to support your PR application. Why the fuck are you paying them any money at all? Next month when you normally mail them the rent and food money, I suggest you send them a fart in a bottle.
 
Can take a toll on the health though with the crazy hours and the drinking.
If its a legit and bigger club, the hours shouldn’t be that crazy because they have to close down at 1.00 by law.
Also the drinking isn’t that crazy. Often there is free time without customers, or the girls get weak or non alcoholic drinks. Only if guys order the most expensive stuff, the drinking gets really next level and there will most likely be some after party at a restaurant as well.