Getting Sex With Women At The Office

[RIDER 00]

Hi guys,

I'm always open to having sex with hot women, even if I have to pay for it.

I work at a Japanese company where there are a lot of single women over their 30s. I find a lot of them to be much prettier than the average girl on the street, and after talking with some of my co-workers, I am guessing that the reason they are still single is because from the Japanese guy point of view, they're either not attractive or have strong independent personalities that they find to be a major turn off. During drinking sessions, we often talk about who we'd like to take to a love hotel and bang and they always list up the young idol type OLs while I go more of the busty mature types.

It also is very likely that a lot of these women have high standards for who their "Mr. Right" is (like some pretty boy from ジャニーズ or Fukuyama Masaharu), so they won't let any of us "normal" guys touch them.

Now the point of this post is that I'm ready to make a move on some of the ladies in the office and see who'd be willing to become a fuck buddy, or, at the very least, at least a one night fling. As a white guy who speaks Japanese, a lot of these women have a good vibe with me and I know I could get a date with most of them pretty easily if I was still single.

Is there any advice on how I should broach the subject to any such lady during a drink party or a private dinner session? I'd be willing to pay them as much as I would for an escort, but can't really think of a way to make the offer without risk of a major backlash.

The lady I do have my sights on sits at the desk right in front of me and she is very busty and pretty for her age. She often wears these tight business shirts that show off her great cup size and nipple outline, and, as they're natural, she bounces a lot when she walks around the office. She also loves to go out drinking and talk intimately with guys including me. During one company barebque, she got so drunk that she was willing to give me a quick wet kiss to show how much she thought I was a great guy, which is extremelly rare in Japan especially in office settings.

Any advice or personal experiences you could share with me would be of great help!

 

[JaquesAfrog]

My personal rule is... no matter how hot or easy it would be to pick up anyone in my work environment... I don't. Even if I don't work for the company, but I am making an official visit... that makes the women off limits to me. It only takes one bad encounter... one looneytoon woman... one that had a bad experience with a foreigner... any reason... and, you quickly put yourself in a situation that could get ugly quickly... both professionally and personally. Women talk just as badly as men, if not worse. As a foreigner, you are highlighted more than the others in your work space. Let's just say you get lucky with this woman you are interested in. But, it turns out she liked by another Japanese male coworker and doesn't like the "dirty foreigner" fucking around with "his" Japanese woman.

You are better off keeping work and pleasure separate. Keep work professional. I've had a lot of offers and a lot of temptation during my many visits to various big name Japanese companies. One little indiscretion can ruin any professional reputation you have and can be used against you.

 

[Desktop]

I've known a senior guy fired for sexual harassment making a move. If it backfires it's on you. Not saying it will but you have to consider the risk.

 

[JaquesAfrog]

Example... a short term contract I had with a major Japanese company that makes electrical control boxes for locomotives. I was assigned a company translator... she was smoking hot! She wore tight, white business shirts... tight, thigh-high skirts... stockings... high-heels... dressed exactly as you might imagine. She was always making sure she was in my line of sight at all times. Served me the company lunches in a private company room. All too good to be true. I never once made a comment or suggestion or stared or made any type of innuendo. Trust me... I wanted to do this girl on the table during lunches!

After about a month, while still supporting the contract... I happened (maybe it was planned) to run into her on the train, after the day's work. This was the first time for me to see her off-site. She asked me if I would go to have a coffee with her. I hesitantly agreed. For some reason, she decided to be honest with me. She told me, while she was a company translator, she was also told to "spy" on me... to learn about my notes and reports... what I was recording. She was also told to do everything to put me in a compromising position... to include anything that could discredit me and the company I was contracted to. She said the only reason she was being honest with me was... I didn't hit on her... I didn't try to fuck her. I thanked her for being honest. I told her I was more than interested, but I also told her about my personal rule... and, that if we did anything, it could be bad for the both of us. She did give me her personal phone number and email.

That could have turned out really ugly... professionally. The following week... I ended up with a new translator. Yes... of course... she was a typical OL and rather unattractive. When I asked about the previous translator, I was told she was away on vacation. Uh... it wasn't Golden Week or Oban holidays.

After I finished the contract... I sent her an email. We met... we fucked... but, that was it. We really didn't have any interest in each other.

I've had other opportunities... it's better to find someone not connected to your company or work.

 

[RIDER 00]

Thanks for the words of caution but one point I think you missed in my post was that NO ONE in my office wants these particular ladies but me. When we share fuck lists that other guys laugh and say "You want to bang that old bitch? You should for her benefit!" and stuff like that. To them, for some stupid reason, these women are not desirable. So, effectively, I have an open shot at them if I could find a women willing to be a fuck buddy, and believe me, Japanese men go to 風俗 all the time so they are not opposed to the idea of open sex.

 

[RIDER 00]

After I finished the contract... I sent her an email. We met... we fucked... but, that was it. We really didn't have any interest in each other.

I've had other opportunities... it's better to find someone not connected to your company or work.

So you did end up fucking her. NICE! I know you're trying to warn me about fucking or making sexual moves in the office, but I'm talking more about being a smooth talker during drinking sessions/in the off hours and finding someone willing to have a quick fuck, like you eventually did.

 

[RIDER 00]

I've known a senior guy fired for sexual harassment making a move. If it backfires it's on you. Not saying it will but you have to consider the risk.

You'd be suprised at how much sexual harassment goes on in Japanese companies and nothing is done about it. Just the other day this guy was openly talking about how his co-worker was such a handsome guy and because he was being transferred to another department, all the OLs would be screaming and crying for many many nights. I could feel the sharp gazes of the OLs around me while they were wishing him to go to hell.

 

[R.O.B]

JaquesAfrog is also JaquesAsaint...
RiderOO if you fuck one of those women I can almost guarantee you that no matter how discreet you/you two are or whatever, it is get out and life will be very uncomfortable and maybe insidiously so. You have no idea of the relationships between the people you work with - who hates who etc etc., who is/was screwing who (how can you be sure the guys are telling you the truth?) etc. etc., and Japanese, particularly women are very astute at noticing subtle changes between people (you will unconscious change your non-verbal communication but it will be noticed). And, that is besides the paranoia. Then if things go badly...
Tell us how it goes...

 

[R.O.B]

You'd be suprised at how much sexual harassment goes on in Japanese companies and nothing is done about it.

I can hear the older Japan hands laughing their guts out.... No, I wouldn't be surprised. And try universities!

 

[RIDER 00]

I can hear the older Japan hands laughing their guts out.... No, I wouldn't be surprised. And try universities!

I went to a Japanese university and the social clubs at those places are literally breeding grounds for future rapists and gamblers. Even if it's suposed to be a sports club, the topic was always which girl club should we get to go drinking with us so we can try and fuck them. I've seen a few young girls pass out at these parties and have guys take them home. Who knows what happened to them in the end.

 

[JaquesAfrog]

JaquesAfrog is also JaquesAsaint...

Not really. I just value my professional reputation. My professional reputation keeps me in contracts that I can pick and choose. I don't work all the time... and, I don't have to take every contract... especially, when I know the job is crap or is dealing with more garbage than it is worth.

No... I'm a whore dog... and, I love to have my foreign tongue buried in Japanese twat at any given chance or moment. I've just learned the hard way about being extremely careful about it.

 

[JaquesAfrog]

You'd be suprised at how much sexual harassment goes on in Japanese companies and nothing is done about it. Just the other day this guy was openly talking about how his co-worker was such a handsome guy and because he was being transferred to another department, all the OLs would be screaming and crying for many many nights. I could feel the sharp gazes of the OLs around me while they were wishing him to go to hell.

No... not surprised at all. I've seen it. That is also why I always politely excuse myself from all after-work invites. I've been told it is "rude" to turn down such invites. No... I find it rude that I am expected to sit in a smoke infested room with a bunch of drunks that don't know when enough is enough. I find it neither relaxing nor entertaining.

You have to remember... you are a foreigner. No matter how much you try to integrate into Japanese society... learning the language, reading, understanding, following customs and traditions... blah, blah, blah... you are always a foreigner. There are generations of Chinese and Koreans here in Japan... born and raised here... they have never visited visited China or Korea... the Japanese still consider them "foreigners".

 

[RIDER 00]

JaquesAfrog is also JaquesAsaint...
RiderOO if you fuck one of those women I can almost guarantee you that no matter how discreet you/you two are or whatever, it is get out and life will be very uncomfortable and maybe insidiously so. You have no idea of the relationships between the people you work with - who hates who etc etc., who is/was screwing who (how can you be sure the guys are telling you the truth?) etc. etc., and Japanese, particularly women are very astute at noticing subtle changes between people (you will unconscious change your non-verbal communication but it will be noticed). And, that is besides the paranoia. Then if things go badly...
Tell us how it goes...

Yes, I agree with your point on noticing changes in behavior. This is why it is so awkward when they are inter-office couples dating or married. However, this is acutally quite common so there isn't a major stigma against it. Being married, however, I'd need to take extra precautions if any such relationship ever developed.

 

[RIDER 00]

You have to remember... you are a foreigner. No matter how much you try to integrate into Japanese society... learning the language, reading, understanding, following customs and traditions... blah, blah, blah... you are always a foreigner. There are generations of Chinese and Koreans here in Japan... born and raised here... they have never visited visited China or Korea... the Japanese still consider them "foreigners".

Not all drinking is in smoky rooms with rude loud men, just saying. Some of it can be really fun if there is a girl there you like and want to spend some private time with. Even going to Karaoke can have its benefits if you get to do a duet with a hot girl. I was lucky to do this once with the lady I am after and she was more than willing to grind her hips into my crotch and put he lips close to mine as we looked into each others eyes singing about love.

I find that being outed as a foreigner isn't such a bad thing. It excuses me from having to strictly conform to the 先輩・後輩 relationship or always using polite Japanese. Also, a lot of Japanese women are interested in foreigners, whether just for a chat or for a fuck. I enjoy being a way for them to fulfill their desires.

 

[JaquesAfrog]

Yes, I agree with your point on noticing changes in behavior. This is why it is so awkward when they are inter-office couples dating or married. However, this is acutally quite common so there isn't a major stigma against it. Being married, however, I'd need to take extra precautions if any such relationship ever developed.

"Being married"... you are best to keep our extra affairs far away from anyone's knowledge at your place of employment.

 

[R.O.B]

DANGER!!!, Will Robinson!

 

[R.O.B]

RiderOO - I wasn't refering to student-student at universities here. Profs of both sexes have incredible power over people on staff, in admin and in their classrooms. I know a lot of people in that line of work and the stories they tell!

 

[RIDER 00]

RiderOO - I wasn't refering to student-student at universities here. Profs of both sexes have incredible power over people on staff, in admin and in their classrooms. I know a lot of people in that line of work and the stories they tell!

The same thing is true for human resource staff at companies in charge of hiring new people. It's rediculous how many major companies (esp. banks) hire women based only on their cuteness/hotness. My previous Japanese company did the exact same thing. I've also heard stories of girls required to meet up with the recruiting staff for dates/fuck sessions in order to secure a job.

 

[Solong]

My personal rule is... no matter how hot or easy it would be to pick up anyone in my work environment... I don't. Even if I don't work for the company, but I am making an official visit... that makes the women off limits to me. It only takes one bad encounter... one looneytoon woman... one that had a bad experience with a foreigner... any reason... and, you quickly put yourself in a situation that could get ugly quickly... both professionally and personally. Women talk just as badly as men, if not worse. As a foreigner, you are highlighted more than the others in your work space. Let's just say you get lucky with this woman you are interested in. But, it turns out she liked by another Japanese male coworker and doesn't like the "dirty foreigner" fucking around with "his" Japanese woman.

You are better off keeping work and pleasure separate. Keep work professional. I've had a lot of offers and a lot of temptation during my many visits to various big name Japanese companies. One little indiscretion can ruin any professional reputation you have and can be used against you.

There is an old saying, "Don't shit where you eat."

It might look convenient and some Japanese might be doing it on the sneak, but it's very dangerous for foreigners. Even for Japanese, it can blow up and cause problems, where they are fired or transferred. And what you might think is a secret, can be gossip all over the office. Even rumors that you are banging girls or just trying to talk to girls in the office can cause problems.

If after all that, you still try it. I can only recommend you go for it the first 2 to 3 weeks of starting for a company. There is more leeway then, and try to exchange LINE or her PERSONAL mobile phone. AVOID e-mails if possible, and NEVER use work e-mail or her work phone if possible. LINE has audio, so for any incriminating conversations, call her or just use the regular mobile phone. If you are banging an office girl, tell her to never tell anyone in the office and you too. Don't show any affection in the office.

After the 1st month and you haven't pulled any side office-girlfriends, then completely give it up. It often means the girls in the office are not interested or they are problems. Your "new guy" image often wears off, and then you become more susceptible to sexual harassment accusations or HR looking into "rumors" about you.

 

[JaquesAfrog]

Unless someone posts something positive about fucking around in their office with a co-worker... so far, everyone is saying the same thing... don't do it.

 

[meiji]

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[Tokyo1447]

I said do it but they deleted my post
Thanks TAG your awesome

 

[Kegger]

Back in the early 90s I had couple of nights with a woman from the office. I'd worked there for a year or so and for some reason we were at the same event a couple of nights in a row.

One Friday night we were at some event and I'd had a few drinks, and hit on her. 100% total rejection. So I'm dreading the office on Monday.
Anyway next night for some reason we are both at another event. Feeling really stink as soon as I see her, so have a few more pints to knock the edge off.
I only have a quick word to her, but as I'm leaving she catches up to me and asks to talk outside. Seems she's done a 180, and is now keen.
So we head back to my place for a bit of hanky panky but she's at that time of the month and I'm not much of a Red Sea sailor.

So back to work on Monday and it is like nothing ever happened. We go through the whole week and as I'm leaving she's waiting for me in the car park. Straight ack to my place for tea and crumpets. We only did the biz that one time then it fizzled out.

The whole thing remained a secret.

But...

About 6 weeks later we were also at an event together and I thought she wasn't into it, but as I leave she started slamming car doors etc. I'm pretty sure it was directed at me as I had been ignoring her, but no one else knew that. Anyway a friend who know both of us was there and told me she was a bit of a lose cannon. She'd dated a few gaijins in her time and they usually ended badly, including once when the police had to talk to her after she slashed the tires on an ex's bicycle.

Dodged a bullet there, but left the job for a better one 3-4 month later.

If your job is worth keeping then be very wary. If it is just a filler until a better once comes along then I'd go for it.

 

[Desktop]

@Kegger being married & playing in the office plays a big role in most of our responses. Not sure if you are hitched or not. Single guys, the story might not spread & people might not care.

 

[Kegger]

Definitely. This is only some thing you do if you are young and single, and don't care too much about your job.

I was young and unattached at the time.