Hello from a perplexed an quite disenchanted newbie...

[comradecanis]

Hi to all TAG members!

After having read a lot of threads while lurking in the shadows, I finally decided to introduce myself in order to participate in a more actively way.

I am a mid 30 guy who is quite accustomed to Japanese culture. I had two Japanese girlfriends in the past years, and I usually go in Japan twice per year, both for fun and for business matters. I have a basic conversional level of proficiency in Japanese.

I have not tried yet the Japanese p4p world (well, neither in other parts of the world), but I am quite curious, since I love the beauty of Japanese girls! So, for my next time in Japan, I would like to try something.

But...why I am perplexed and quite disenchanted? It is because I have tastes which are very different from the average customer who is determining the supply/demand equilibrium in the p4p market, and I think it will be very difficult for me to find something I like. Yes, because, for what I have understood by reading the very useful threads of the TAG forum, almost all services are based and centered on things like HJ, BJ, CBJ, BBBJ, CIM, COF, receiving massages, and so on. However, I am really not interested in such kind of things, I prefer far more exploring the female body, giving DATY, fingering, appreciating female masturbation, oshikko kanshou, and other stuffs who are less focused on the male penis.

Well... disenchanted or not, in any case I will continue to read more threads on the forum, maybe I will findsomething which can be of my tastes, hope is the last to die!

 

[User#8628]

I don't think you have a "very different" taste, a lot of the guys on here seem to like giving oral.

Also a lot of shops allow you to do these things to the girls, you'd just have to find a provider who appreciates it. (Also for oshikko play you might have to pay a little extra in some cases).

I think a delivery health would maybe be your best bet for those experiences since its intimate and private but not focused on FS.

Maybe the other members here have some advice on girls who truely enjoy to receive. Dont worry, it may not be the most common thing, but there are definitely many other guys who do enjoy the same as you.

 

[krdxgm69]

Welcome.

It is because I have tastes which are very different from the average customer

Until you discover a lot of people are sharing the same tastes.

I prefer far more exploring the female body, giving DATY, fingering

Welcome to the club.

 

[Lukes]

Welcome to the group. I think you'll find that there's a lot of potential for the kind of play you're into. I would recommend DH or going with independents, depending on the exact nature of your request. this, as an example, has a masturbation appreciation option for some of its girls.

Keep digging into the reviews. There's a wealth of info to be found.

 

[faboo2001]

Unfortunately I can't provide any links, but I've definitely seen shops/providers websites that offer such play. So just look around and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for. Good luck!

 

[Wwanderer]

Some of the TAG indies either VERY much enjoy receiving DATY and other such stimulations or are much better actresses than Meryl Streep!

-Ww

 

[comradecanis]

Thank you for the welcome and the suggestions!

By saying that "I have a different taste compared to the average guy" I didn't want to say that I am special or something else... It was only a bit of ignorance from me about this matter
It is because most of the reviews I read and the few Japanese providers / DH websites I saw were mainly centered about such kind of services I am not really interested in.

But from what you are saying it seems that with some "study" I can find what I am searching... good! Since my next trip to Japan will be this autumn, I have a lot of time for digging into your reviews and becoming more cultured about that matter. When I reach a sufficient level of knowledge, maybe I will ask some suggestion in the Q/A portion of the board...

cc

 

[wraithfive]

In my experience, most providers love being caressed and played with, DATY, ect. and I love doing those things to them

However, fingering is one thing where YMMV. Some girls don't allow it at all, some may allow it but very very shallow ect. Just wanted to call that one out as I've found it really does vary widely between providers when it comes to fingering. Actually, I should say it varies pretty widely with women in general now I think about it.

 

[krdxgm69]

However, fingering is one thing where YMMV.

Length and cleanliness of finger nails is an important factor too.

 

[MikeH]

Length and cleanliness of finger nails is an important factor too.

Yep, some guys are idiots and cuts down there can prevent girl from working in addition to being really painful.

 

[wraithfive]

Yep, some guys are idiots and cuts down there can prevent girl from working in addition to being really painful.

Not only that but they really don't understand the concept of lubrication so I'm told. If your not gonna use lube in a bottle then for god sakes make sure the girl is really turned on and ready before you just shove your finger in.

 

[comradecanis]

Unfortunately I can't provide any links, but I've definitely seen shops/providers websites that offer such play. So just look around and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for. Good luck!

Sorry for the dumb question, but... how are the rules of this forums about external links? Because in other sections of the forum I saw people which provided external links of shop and providers.

Maybe there is a thread about the rules of this forum, but I haven't seen it yet ;P

 

[faboo2001]

Sorry for the dumb question, but... how are the rules of this forums about external links? Because in other sections of the forum I saw people which provided external links of shop and providers.

Maybe there is a thread about the rules of this forum, but I haven't seen it yet ;P

Oh it should be fine as far as I know! I just meant that I don't have any links to share with you since I don't recall which shops offered what you were looking for.

 

[Lukes]

External links are posted here all the time, usually for shop webpages, girl profiles/ad's, etc.

 

[scorpioni6ths]

Sorry for the dumb question, but... how are the rules of this forums about external links? Because in other sections of the forum I saw people which provided external links of shop and providers.

Maybe there is a thread about the rules of this forum, but I haven't seen it yet ;P

as mentioned links are ok ... if your link doesn't show ... then you've linked one of the Unmentionables ... there are some sites banned here AFAIK it's a short list so don't worry too much.

use your common sense. there's hardly any topic not discussed here. maybe only politics and religion are the bad topics. if a topic does get out of hand a mod usually locks it to prevent it from spiraling to chaos.

go to each section of the forum ... if you find a stickied post (red highlight) ... read it.

 

[comradecanis]

Oh it should be fine as far as I know! I just meant that I don't have any links to share with you since I don't recall which shops offered what you were looking for.

lol, sorry, I had misunterstood your previous answer!

 

[User#8628]

Not only that but they really don't understand the concept of lubrication so I'm told. If your not gonna use lube in a bottle then for god sakes make sure the girl is really turned on and ready before you just shove your finger in.

Thats very true. A bit of DATY before fingering can make it good wet there with spit and other fluids.

 

[krdxgm69]

A bit of DATY before fingering can make it good wet

And girls are demanding on oral. It is damn good when oral sex is done simultaneously.

 

[comradecanis]

Length and cleanliness of finger nails is an important factor too.

Yep, some guys are idiots and cuts down there can prevent girl from working in addition to being really painful.

Not only that but they really don't understand the concept of lubrication so I'm told. If your not gonna use lube in a bottle then for god sakes make sure the girl is really turned on and ready before you just shove your finger in.

Ok, it seems that there are a lot of customers who are really idiots who do not care about the girl who is providing the service. Well, I think that on this regard I am a really naive guy, since until now I never exploited a p4p service and I didn't know these kind of behaviors. But if there are customers of this kind... I understand very well the hesitation of allowing fingering!

 

[wraithfive]

Ok, it seems that there are a lot of customers who are really idiots who do not care about the girl who is providing the service. Well, I think that on this regard I am a really naive guy, since until now I never exploited a p4p service and I didn't know these kind of behaviors. But if there are customers of this kind... I understand very well the hesitation of allowing fingering!

Oh yea, there are definitely plenty of mongers who fall into the "idiot" category by my definition. Same goes for Sugar Daddies. The providers on TAG don't seem to talk about the idiots too much, at least not in public forums, who knows what is said in private areas, but spend a little time following ladies on twitter and you'll hear about plenty of idiot clients. However, most of those don't get past screening, in the US and other areas where screening is common at least.

But as in most interactions with ladies, be it P4P or otherwise, the basic rule of "don't be an asshole" will get you far. Don't expect a lady to do something she isn't comfortable with just because she is a sex worker and treat her like a human being and you'll find that most of the time YMMV will tend to be in your favor. Maybe not immediately, after all trust is something that usually takes time, but on repeat visits things become more natural for both of you. At least that's held true for my experiences.

Just the other day one of my more recent sugar babies, we've only been seeing each other a month, gave me what was just about the highest compliment her experiences so far with sugaring had lead her to come up with. "You aren't an asshole".

 

[scorpioni6ths]

Ok, it seems that there are a lot of customers who are really idiots who do not care about the girl who is providing the service. Well, I think that on this regard I am a really naive guy, since until now I never exploited a p4p service and I didn't know these kind of behaviors. But if there are customers of this kind... I understand very well the hesitation of allowing fingering!

some men are just mimicking what they saw in porn without knowing any better. porn stuff doesn't work much of the time in the real world!

 

[MikeH]

porn stuff doesn't work much of the time in the real world!

Yeah, that's strange as all the non-porn movies are so realistic! Like the other day when I had a minor car accident and knew my car would explode in a second I just grabbed the landing gear of a near-by helicopter with one hand and then I was able to fly to safety.

I mean how could those guys know porn movies are different!

 

[GPunto]

Me likee what TS stated too and believe in showing our appreciation of the female form being presented, usually with TLC unless she says she likes it rough lol

 

[User#8628]

The providers on TAG don't seem to talk about the idiots too much,

I don't have many idiot clients to be honest. Some guys might be over enthusiastic or inexperienced so they hurt me that way, but I think its never a bad intention.
I'll warn other girls if a guy is dangerous or troublesome or a timewaster, and if a girl is gonna see a guy i have met before, i can give some feetback. I dont really like to gossip about guys specifically but if there is a really funny story i might share it in person with friends without naming the client.

While i may give some general do's and don'ts to guys in the forum (but of course this is very personal) i'm not someone who's gonna rant all the time about "bad" things her clients have done to her.

 

[wraithfive]

I don't have many idiot clients to be honest. Some guys might be over enthusiastic or inexperienced so they hurt me that way, but I think its never a bad intention.
I'll warn other girls if a guy is dangerous or troublesome or a timewaster, and if a girl is gonna see a guy i have met before, i can give some feetback. I dont really like to gossip about guys specifically but if there is a really funny story i might share it in person with friends without naming the client.

While i may give some general do's and don'ts to guys in the forum (but of course this is very personal) i'm not someone who's gonna rant all the time about "bad" things her clients have done to her.

Which is why you are easily in my top providers list despite my only having one opportunity to see you so far. You come across as someone who genuinely enjoys what you do and focuses on the positive aspects and positive experiences rather than ranting about the, hopefully rare, negative experiences.

So many girls have removed themselves from my list before I've ever visited them just because of negativity they post lol.