How do you think of Sugar datting site(Ko-sai club)?
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Personal opinion, good option for people that have trouble meeting people in social circles. Maybe meet someone that they wouldn't' have normally met... but at the end of the day, it's still paid date...
If it works for you, then great... but it's not for everyone.
Different expectations and goals among all of us.
If it works for you, then great... but it's not for everyone.
Different expectations and goals among all of us.As a girl, i like the posh atmosphere they put on it, although it may end up a bit more time consuming and less profitable than escort, it kind of makes me feel like a princess.
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From what I understood about the concept, it's really not a thing for me.
I don't enjoy dating (even for free) and I'd never pay for it. I've always seen it like a tax-like spent time with the GF, a duty quota to reach to have a little of peace because it's something she needs, something that proves (according to the movies) that you're caring about her.
I don't enjoy dating (even for free) and I'd never pay for it. I've always seen it like a tax-like spent time with the GF, a duty quota to reach to have a little of peace because it's something she needs, something that proves (according to the movies) that you're caring about her.
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You need to find more interesting people to date
. It used to be like that to me too and I thought dating is the price for later fun but nowadays I only meet girls who are interesting to meet and talk even without the sex part. Well, that was a lie. There is still this one girl who I meet only because of her boobs
. In my defence they are really nice boobs .
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Jees @MikeH ! We are from the same cloth. My thoughts exactly!You need to find more interesting people to date
Well, that was a lie. There is still this one girl who I meet only because of her boobs
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My some what limited experience in the Sugar bowl has been 1 success, 1 OK experience, and several (and some major) flops.
The one success more than made up for the flops, as it lasted for about 8 months, and really made me happy.
Part of the success was that it was more than just sex. We had dates, went shopping, traveled together etc. I could discuss some of the issues in my life with her (work, family stuff etc), and she also let me into her life (her past, issues she had etc)
I learned a lot from her and I hope she learned something from me.
And while it didn't end well, I'm very thankful that I met her.
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the most interesting girls I met don't do dates. instead of dating the american and japanese movies way (which is worst) we have fun the same way friends have fun (indoor or outdoor).You need to find more interesting people to date
Well, that was a lie. There is still this one girl who I meet only because of her boobs
by the way the word "date" doesn't exist in french or in my native language. there is "rendez vous amoureux" as a definition (which is not 1 word) or we can say "rencard" in slang but it's not the same concept and it's square and from another age. French people here can confirm or invalidate.
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I've done quite a lot of sugar dating over the past half dozen years or so, and what you describe is rather representative of my experiences as well - successes, OK experiences and various degrees of flops are all common enough, and the successes are what make it all worthwhile.
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Sounds like my kinda thing! Is there a website? Is it event based meetups or something?? The idea of picking up SB's at some kind of pre-organised event is very appealing to me, as the web based part (SA) is a bit of a drag, and often a waste of time when you finally realise when meeting in person that the chemistry/attraction is just not there.
Nah, its not like that. Kosai "clubs" are mainly dating services with online profiles as well.
Universe Club DID have an event where they invited a few girls and guys (wasn't cheap for the guys) and they could kind of speeddate. It wasn't very succesful though, as far as i know.
Have you tried going to R2 supperclub in Roppongi? Its supposed to be a good place to meet sugar babies.
Thanks Alice for the clarification, and tip about R2. Definitely interested in that. Not really keen on going to clubs on my own but have done it and maybe will give it a go there. (Can't think of a suitable wingman unfortunately, from my limited set of expat friends). Are wannabe SBs going by themselves or its more just like a normal club vibe (ie people in groups)?
Its not like a dance club, more of a bar vibe but its quite big. Just people sitting and drinking. I think its mostly small groups of people, but some girls might go by themselves and if you wanna leave with someone its maybe easier to be alone anyway.
I've only been there once so i cant comment a lot on if its good or not. Its supposed to be famous for "sugar babies", but there are also often freestyle escorts and Roppongi girls who want to take you to their strip club, hostess club or drinkback bar, so be careful not to have some savvy girl trick you into the general Roppongi scams.
The vibe is international as far as i know, many foreign men, some foreign girls and some Japanese girls with quite good English.
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All correct (of course) based on my own experiences at R2 and on what I've heard from a few of my SBs. Different SBs seem to have different amounts of success there, but my impression is that it is far from a "sure thing" for either SBs or SDs...kind of "hit or miss".
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It's a bit "faux posh" if you see what I mean. Sometimes I stop there for a drink but I wouldn't make it the goal of a Roppongi excursion (which tend to be very rare as I get older and found nice SBs on SA + Nice agency escorts anyway). Also I always find it a bit awkward to talk to a lady and not know in advance why she's here. And who should make the first "proposal" etc
Sugar dating: avoid at any cost... I'm not an ATM card with a penis...
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That's marriage (and the ATMcard is used way more often than the penis)
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That's a STANDARD marriage (in Japan at least)
... but as you could probably guess, I'm biased
Try China, dude... where there's simply no end to how ugly a marriage can get...That's a STANDARD marriage (in Japan at least)
... but as you could probably guess, I'm biased
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I agree that there are often somewhat awkward transitions to navigate in that regard. It is a bit like SA without profiles; there are women and men there looking for a wide range of very different outcomes and no easy and graceful way to find out who wants what. If you are in the mood, that just adds some edge to the game.
Of course, to be fair, I have the advantage that no lady taking an interest in my company is after a partner with good looks or a sense of style...so that eliminates some of their possible motives.
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You might attract ladies who are looking for a man with good shoes though!
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Oh come on you are too harsh on yourself . Some ladies love the wizard look, I'm sure
I know I am late to the thread... Just joined SA, but not so impressed with what's on there so far. I know User#8628 mentioned I may have the wrong idea about Sugar Dating - so please clue me in... I basically think it is where you meet someone - go on a few dates (you give her money for her time) and if there is a spark/connection/etc. then proceed to a more intimate relationship - albeit compensated like monthly allowance or pay per meet which ever suits the two people. I guess my main question is .... I assume there will be intimacy - but there are lots of girl profiles that say platonic... SO they are looking to hang out with SD to be able to enjoy a different lifestyle that they are not able to acquire on their own which makes sense but don't want intimacy..
The comment about ATM with penis made me LOL... Cheers for that.
As for the comments about wives and sex...and relationship good or bad... each couple makes their fate...
R2 is a bit of a sausage fest last time I was there... although some women come in, but I think the are fishing as mentioned earlier.. I've met a couple of women there, but they flashed out really quickly... no depth to them and flaky... like Grandma's biscuits....or maybe my tolerance for rubbish continues to get less and less...
Anyway... just some thoughts...
The comment about ATM with penis made me LOL... Cheers for that.
As for the comments about wives and sex...and relationship good or bad... each couple makes their fate...
R2 is a bit of a sausage fest last time I was there... although some women come in, but I think the are fishing as mentioned earlier.. I've met a couple of women there, but they flashed out really quickly... no depth to them and flaky... like Grandma's biscuits....or maybe my tolerance for rubbish continues to get less and less...
Anyway... just some thoughts...
Oh... one more thought... If you are really into the girl... isn't making her feel like a princess what's it's all about anyway ? I'm not just talking about nice dinners or shopping, but what ever makes her feel like a princess... from stimulating conversation, walking in a park, or a picnic...etc... ? ? Maybe I'm too old fashioned or too much of a romantic ? ? That excitement you see on the girls face when you do something you know she wants, takes her to a place she wants to go, etc... The appreciation you see and experience is amazing.. so that's why I'm making the statement... ? ? ?
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It appears to me that you have the right general idea of what might be called a "normal sugar arrangement" (a bit of an oxymoron, I realize), and they are most definitely SBs on SA looking for that sort of thing within reasonable variations. However, there is essentially no filter; there are also SBs looking for platonic relationships, for purely transactional ones, for future marriage partners, for investors in their business initiatives, for customers for their cam girl shows, for rescue from evil wizards or fire-breathing dragons and for pretty much anything you can imagine. There are also A LOT of SBs whose profiles significantly misrepresent their sugaring goals, either on purpose or because their goals have changed but they never bothered to modify their profiles or because their English is misleading or...
Bottom line - You are looking for something that is definitely available on SA but you do have to look for it, a process that can require a lot of time and attention/energy, as well as some money.
-Ww