How to handle falling for your SB?

[MikeH]

What does the Jewish Federation of Greater Indianapolis have to do with this?

That's between them and the bronies, please do not judge.

 

[Frenchy]

That's between them and the bronies, please do not judge.

I feel increasingly uncomfortable with mentions of powerful , shady secret societies like the JFGI which, as the truly enlightened know, are just a smokescreen for Soros and the Rothschilds to advance their satanic New World Order agenda. I just fucking googled it.

 

[shadowboxer]

It is a JFGI.

I did JFGI:

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/brony/

 

[MikeH]

I feel increasingly uncomfortable with mentions of powerful , shady secret societies like the JFGI which, as the truly enlightened know, are just a smokescreen for Soros and the Rothschilds to advance their satanic New World Order agenda. I just fucking googled it.

So different from TAG which is a secret society used as smokescreen for the Manager to get freedom fries.

 

[oLUXo]

What is the rates you are paying to a SB? Just interested to know how different it is compared to P4P and regular hobbying...

In Japan, rates are different than what I'm paying in the USA. The rates are usually mutually agreed upon. I usually did pay per meet, but eventually went to monthly allowance.

You're looking at about $2000-$3000 per month, not including dinners, travel, etc. Think of sugar dating like fine wine. Tastes good, but few can afford.

 

[Ken4fb]

Hey Everyone. Just thought I check in here. I have not been to Japan recently (damn Covid). So no mongering adventures to report. I really miss Tokyo. Whats taking so long for everyone to get the vaccine there?

I am still sugar dating the same SB that I posted about two years ago. We been dating since Dec 2018. And Im glad because it would have been really boring with all the covid travel restrictions.
Anyway, its still definitely a sugar relationship like once a week. But we I also see each other least once or twice a week where we just hang out and do stuff together (ie hiking, eating, going to the beach/park). Feels like we are like close friends now. All I know is that Im really gonna be sad when it ends one day.

I am rereading this thread for my own education. Wondering how @Coda87 are doing with your SB in question.

 

[DireWolf98]

In some respects, the SB factor might add an another layer, or five, of complications. Unrequited feelings/love is painful. With an SB, it might not seem as completely transactional as an escort, but when she walks away to do her own thing you might be completely out of her mind.

 

[Coda87]

I am rereading this thread for my own education. Wondering how @Coda87 are doing with your SB in question.

We are still sugar dating.. now 3+ years and I never thought it would go on this long. I do wonder when/how it will end as it must someday. I have a feeling the whole covid situation prolonged the relationship. I can't really travel to Japan. The regular job market (for her) is only recently been getting better, so
maybe it was easier to have a stable SD. I still adore her and have not gotten bored of the sex, which I thought I would by now. Maybe its because its usually just once per week. Or maybe its because I see my time with her as just an escape, from the rest of my life which has not gone as I planned. So I look forward to my time with her more than just the great sex. Maybe for a middle aged guy, sex with an under 25 just doesn't get old, lol. I feel like I got really lucky with her and that it lasted this long.
Hope you all are doing well.

 

[Ken4fb]

We are still sugar dating.. now 3+ years and I never thought it would go on this long. I do wonder when/how it will end as it must someday. I have a feeling the whole covid situation prolonged the relationship. I can't really travel to Japan. The regular job market (for her) is only recently been getting better, so
maybe it was easier to have a stable SD. I still adore her and have not gotten bored of the sex, which I thought I would by now. Maybe its because its usually just once per week. Or maybe its because I see my time with her as just an escape, from the rest of my life which has not gone as I planned. So I look forward to my time with her more than just the great sex. Maybe for a middle aged guy, sex with an under 25 just doesn't get old, lol. I feel like I got really lucky with her and that it lasted this long.
Hope you all are doing well.

Wow, that is great. Thank you for the update. I wish I could see my SB that often.

 

[shadowboxer]

We are still sugar dating.. now 3+ years and I never thought it would go on this long. I do wonder when/how it will end as it must someday. I have a feeling the whole covid situation prolonged the relationship. I can't really travel to Japan. The regular job market (for her) is only recently been getting better, so
maybe it was easier to have a stable SD. I still adore her and have not gotten bored of the sex, which I thought I would by now. Maybe its because its usually just once per week. Or maybe its because I see my time with her as just an escape, from the rest of my life which has not gone as I planned. So I look forward to my time with her more than just the great sex. Maybe for a middle aged guy, sex with an under 25 just doesn't get old, lol. I feel like I got really lucky with her and that it lasted this long.
Hope you all are doing well.

Wow, 3+ years. That's longer than any serious relationship I've ever been in.

 

[Ken4fb]

I have got to say thank you to @Coda87 , @Frenchy and others who has contributed to this thread. I am wondering how @Coda87 's relationship is going. I hope it is well. I believe @Frenchy's one is still going strong too. I have been thinking a lot about this topic lately. Reading this thread again, and especially with Cassandra's reply really put me into the correct mindset. Thank you

I have been seeing my main SB for two and a half year, about three times a month. We went to trips together both domestic and international. It comes to the point where I could be happy just to hang out with her. Sex is still surprisingly great despite the fact that she is very vanilla. I am seeing other ladies who are way hotter and way more kinky. Sex just felt special with this one.

We are still sugar dating.. now 3+ years and I never thought it would go on this long. I do wonder when/how it will end as it must someday. I have a feeling the whole covid situation prolonged the relationship. I can't really travel to Japan. The regular job market (for her) is only recently been getting better, so
maybe it was easier to have a stable SD. I still adore her and have not gotten bored of the sex, which I thought I would by now. Maybe its because its usually just once per week. Or maybe its because I see my time with her as just an escape, from the rest of my life which has not gone as I planned. So I look forward to my time with her more than just the great sex. Maybe for a middle aged guy, sex with an under 25 just doesn't get old, lol. I feel like I got really lucky with her and that it lasted this long.
Hope you all are doing well.

From a former SB point of view: It's very important to not try and exert control over her, as you wrote you have been careful not to do. My very first SD fell very hard for me and ended up making a lot of huge life decisions based on me. I practically begged him not to because I didn't feel the same degree of seriousness towards him but he didn't listen. It turned into a very unhealthy dynamic of him constantly professing his love, guilt tripping me for not feeling the same way, and then threatening to kill himself. You definitely don't seem like the type to do this as you have expressed concern with making your SB feel uncomfortable. Echoing what I said above, I would try and keep a close eye on your feelings and the way that you interact with her.

 

[Kevt]

I have been seeing my main SB for two and a half year, about three times a month. We went to trips together both domestic and international. It comes to the point where I could be happy just to hang out with her. Sex is still surprisingly great despite the fact that she is very vanilla. I am seeing other ladies who are way hotter and way more kinky. Sex just felt special with this one

I've been seeing mine for over 3 years now. However, in some ways it feels like it's nearing the end. Lives and priorities going in different directions.
Similarly sex is very vanilla but very comfortable. We also don't get to see each other much.

In anticipation, I started dating and looking for another SB. Now I'm stuck in a dilemma that a new SB says she wants to be my #1, and she's getting there really fast. Unlike other SBs in the past, this new one makes me smile and laugh... so it seems my priorities have shifted more towards compatibility. I feel a bit bad for finding a new one so soon but I might just keep supporting the old one for a bit.

 

[Joe2017]

Can I fall romantically? This question lingered in my thoughts as I navigated the intricate web of my relationship with an SB whose professional accolades and personal elegance were beyond compare. I was her first and her only SD. Over three years, our connection deepened, transcending mere companionship to touch the realms of the profound. Even the solemnization of her marriage failed to erect barriers between us; our interactions continued, marked by a mutual understanding rather than traditional expectations. We transitioned from sugaring to becoming secret lovers.

Her subsequent move to the UK, a decision tethered to her marital commitments, introduced physical distance into our equation. Yet, the emotional, physical, and intellectual bond we shared remained unscathed, resilient against the miles between us. Her sporadic returns to Tokyo became the eagerly awaited chapters of our ongoing narrative, moments in which our connection rekindled, undimmed by time or circumstance.

In our hearts, we harbored a promise, a vision of us together in London, blending into the crowd of Piccadilly, our shared experiences weaving through the bustling streets, our conversations a soft murmur against the backdrop of theater lights. Ours was a connection that defied easy categorization, a delicate dance of presence and absence, constantly acutely aware of the invisible lines that demarcated the possible from the forbidden. In about three months, I will have her in my arms again, and for a moment, nothing will really matter to us.

 

[Ken4fb]

Can I fall romantically? This question lingered in my thoughts as I navigated the intricate web of my relationship with an SB whose professional accolades and personal elegance were beyond compare. I was her first and her only SD. Over three years, our connection deepened, transcending mere companionship to touch the realms of the profound. Even the solemnization of her marriage failed to erect barriers between us; our interactions continued, marked by a mutual understanding rather than traditional expectations. We transitioned from sugaring to becoming secret lovers.

Her subsequent move to the UK, a decision tethered to her marital commitments, introduced physical distance into our equation. Yet, the emotional, physical, and intellectual bond we shared remained unscathed, resilient against the miles between us. Her sporadic returns to Tokyo became the eagerly awaited chapters of our ongoing narrative, moments in which our connection rekindled, undimmed by time or circumstance.

In our hearts, we harbored a promise, a vision of us together in London, blending into the crowd of Piccadilly, our shared experiences weaving through the bustling streets, our conversations a soft murmur against the backdrop of theater lights. Ours was a connection that defied easy categorization, a delicate dance of presence and absence, constantly acutely aware of the invisible lines that demarcated the possible from the forbidden. In about three months, I will have her in my arms again, and for a moment, nothing will really matter to us.

This is one of best reply I have read on TAG in a long time.

 

[Frenchy]

Can I fall romantically? This question lingered in my thoughts as I navigated the intricate web of my relationship with an SB whose professional accolades and personal elegance were beyond compare. I was her first and her only SD. Over three years, our connection deepened, transcending mere companionship to touch the realms of the profound. Even the solemnization of her marriage failed to erect barriers between us; our interactions continued, marked by a mutual understanding rather than traditional expectations. We transitioned from sugaring to becoming secret lovers.

Her subsequent move to the UK, a decision tethered to her marital commitments, introduced physical distance into our equation. Yet, the emotional, physical, and intellectual bond we shared remained unscathed, resilient against the miles between us. Her sporadic returns to Tokyo became the eagerly awaited chapters of our ongoing narrative, moments in which our connection rekindled, undimmed by time or circumstance.

In our hearts, we harbored a promise, a vision of us together in London, blending into the crowd of Piccadilly, our shared experiences weaving through the bustling streets, our conversations a soft murmur against the backdrop of theater lights. Ours was a connection that defied easy categorization, a delicate dance of presence and absence, constantly acutely aware of the invisible lines that demarcated the possible from the forbidden. In about three months, I will have her in my arms again, and for a moment, nothing will really matter to us.

Wow! Beautiful and beautifully written !

 

[Cashew]

Dang it's interesting to see people who's had the same sugar relationship for years still commenting that they are with the same person. Curious if @Coda87 Is still in their relationship.

I personally have someone I've been seeing for a little over a year. I don't live in japan though so I only see her maybe once every couple of months. I plan on seeing her next month for the first time in 9 months.

 

[Nikkei Guy]

I’ve been in a relationship with a lady going on 13 years now. She was working in an AMP and things just clicked. Not really an SB, but she does expect nice meals and gifts every now and then.

Not really sure how it will end if ever. It was rough at the start. We were both married, but she was more in an arranged marriage and was free to do her own thing. She got divorced and wanted me to get divorced. We actually lived together for a few months but it didn’t feel right. There was another guy in the picture, actually two, which she wouldn’t end until I was officially divorced. Lots of jealousy and arguing by both.

I ended up moving back with my family and she married one of those guys. But somehow we still kept seeing each other.

A few years she moved to Osaka, but we would still manage a meet up every few months. She moved back to Kanto while her husband stayed in Osaka. With her having two young kids, time was scarce but would meet up every month or so. Even found time to do an over nighter.

Now that her kids are a little older we can meet up a little more often. Sometimes for sex or sometimes just a meal or movie or shopping.

She’ll talk about her kids and likewise I might talk about mine. She says her husband isn’t interested in sex, but I find that hard to believe. At this point we’re both content with the relationship and neither have plans for a divorce.

I’ve done p4p on the side and she probably thinks I do but doesn’t ask about it. Just a comfortable relationship. I might be a little jealous if she said she was seeing another guy, but nothing towards her husband. We text regularly and meet up when we can. Sometimes might just be for a short chat on my way home from work while she is between errands. We live about 30 minutes apart.

Anyway, just saw some guys sharing their stories so just wanted to share mine. I wouldn’t recommend though and straight p4p seems to be a safer option.

 

[Ken4fb]

I’ve been in a relationship with a lady going on 13 years now. She was working in an AMP and things just clicked. Not really an SB, but she does expect nice meals and gifts every now and then.

Not really sure how it will end if ever. It was rough at the start. We were both married, but she was more in an arranged marriage and was free to do her own thing. She got divorced and wanted me to get divorced. We actually lived together for a few months but it didn’t feel right. There was another guy in the picture, actually two, which she wouldn’t end until I was officially divorced. Lots of jealousy and arguing by both.

I ended up moving back with my family and she married one of those guys. But somehow we still kept seeing each other.

A few years she moved to Osaka, but we would still manage a meet up every few months. She moved back to Kanto while her husband stayed in Osaka. With her having two young kids, time was scarce but would meet up every month or so. Even found time to do an over nighter.

Now that her kids are a little older we can meet up a little more often. Sometimes for sex or sometimes just a meal or movie or shopping.

She’ll talk about her kids and likewise I might talk about mine. She says her husband isn’t interested in sex, but I find that hard to believe. At this point we’re both content with the relationship and neither have plans for a divorce.

I’ve done p4p on the side and she probably thinks I do but doesn’t ask about it. Just a comfortable relationship. I might be a little jealous if she said she was seeing another guy, but nothing towards her husband. We text regularly and meet up when we can. Sometimes might just be for a short chat on my way home from work while she is between errands. We live about 30 minutes apart.

Anyway, just saw some guys sharing their stories so just wanted to share mine. I wouldn’t recommend though and straight p4p seems to be a safer option.

Thank you so much for sharing! Really appreciate this. These positive reinforcement stories that meeting people via p2p does lead to a long term relationship is just what I needed right now.

 

[Kevt]

p2p does lead to a long term relationship

However... I think "does lead" isn't a good way to think imho. more like there is a possibility just like any other relationship.
Although it's likely a slimmer possibility considering the relationship starts as transactional vs just a blank slate.

That's the trade off in sugar dating I suppose.... The emotions are the main benefits (as well as the risks of heartbreak...) After all, if emotional attachment wasn't a desire, then any other service would do.

 

[Cinnabums]

Thank you so much for sharing! Really appreciate this. These positive reinforcement stories that meeting people via p2p does lead to a long term relationship is just what I needed right now.

I honestly think you should try a date where the only transaction possibly happening is you paying at a restaurant and a bar.

If a long-term relationship is what you have in mind.

 

[Ken4fb]

I honestly think you should try a date where the only transaction possibly happening is you paying at a restaurant and a bar.

If a long-term relationship is what you have in mind.

Yes, and preferably paying for a Love hotel too.

 

[Cinnabums]

Yes, and preferably paying for a Love hotel too.

Apparently you are still just looking for sex.
Aren't we all🤣

 

[Nikkei Guy]

I just sat in a car for an hour just talking with the girl I mentioned above. It’s fun just chatting sometimes.

Of course, if she wanted to have sex every time we met I wouldn’t have a problem with that 😂

 

[Ken4fb]

Apparently you are still just looking for sex.
Aren't we all🤣

What!? Isn't that why we exist at the first place, to procreate?

 

[Frenchy]

What!? Isn't that why we exist at the first place, to procreate?

Yeah, try to say that to your SBs to justify not wearing a condom. I guaranty you will be successful and a happy father later on 😂