How to keep trance mode / magic over several dates?

[User#8628]

Slightly off-topic, and maybe silly question... but how do escorts (or clients) deal with this during overnighters?
We all have to sleep...
Does she sleep while clutching her handbag? Lock the bag and tie it to an arm?

But I guess there's always going to be an element of risk involved.

Its definitely always a risk.
Luckily i've always felt comfortable with the guys i had an overnight with...
And option for the escort would be to deposit the money in the bank before going to the hotel room, or to collect the guys's real name and personal information. But both of these options would be uncomfortable for the guys, especially with an unestablished escort...
When i did overnight, the guys told me their real names voluntarily, and we stayed in such nice rooms and had such expensive dinners that i didn't suspect they would cheat me out of money. Also since they rented the hotel rooms i did not think they would sneak out the next morning.

 

[okayspot]

Slightly off-topic, and maybe silly question... but how do escorts (or clients) deal with this during overnighters?
We all have to sleep...
Does she sleep while clutching her handbag? Lock the bag and tie it to an arm?

But I guess there's always going to be an element of risk involved.

The great thing about this current relationship is that it is literally enjo-kosai and the happiest I've ever been in a relationship p4p or not.

I know all her personal information, she knows all mine, we are social network friends. We literally are friends and can trust each other, I just give her money from time to time.

She has never asked me for money, I only give her money at the very end of each date, because I met her at a pay to talk(not sexual services) place and felt It is required, want to keep seeing her and I want to help her not work there.

The money I'm giving her works out to something like 3000-4000 yen an hour so it is not like she is in this for just the money.

 

[scorpioni6ths]

Slightly off-topic, and maybe silly question... but how do escorts (or clients) deal with this during overnighters?
We all have to sleep...
Does she sleep while clutching her handbag? Lock the bag and tie it to an arm?

But I guess there's always going to be an element of risk involved.

she sleeps sprawled all over you so you can't get up ...

but seriously ... it's a trust thing (and wallet thing since overnights are expensive!). you don't usually setup an overnight date without knowing the girl (like you've had several previous sessions). you make sure you have chemistry ... this will keep the overnight session flowing.

if you're having a girl come over to your hotel room common sense dictates you use the small safe in the room.

 

[vargas]

vargas.... would welcome the report on your trial with both... I doubt it would be too traumatizing... but I agree with you... it's an excellent way to step up the kino and close

Ok, I had a pretty fun night and am in the mood to share. Didn’t go with the princess routine because her brain would have melted for sure. We’ve been exchanging messages and turns out she’s got some pretty kinky interests. Anyway second meeting, not even a date, but it’s her birthday so go for the full birthday routine, dinner, drinks, and of course cake. Turns out she’s not a virgin, but just barely, only one bf and I believe it because her face turns bright red and she can’t even respond as I tease the shit out of her about that. All in good fun of course and she’s loving it.

So we finish off a nice bottle of wine and go for a walk, she’s giggling her ass off as I continue the teasing. She’s so typical, shy Japanese, can’t say what she wants but damn does she respond to the slightest kino, looking for any excuse to touch. Meanwhile she’s basically speechless, can’t string four words together and smoke is coming out of her ears so I’ve gotta sit her down on a bench to cool off for a bit.

We sober up a bit, slide down some slides, swing on some swings (playground game is a real winner guys) and by this time I can tell she is getting super aroused but as much of a bastard as I am, I’m pretty sure she’s gonna take sex way too seriously and make my life complicated. Figure I’ll just walk her to the train, but she’s hinting at going to a hotel and well what are you gonna do right? But every fucking one is full, on a Tuesday night! She invites me back to her place but it’s too damn far away and I say next time, see her off st the station.

Just got a text saying thanks, she’s a bad girl, and “do you want to punish me?”

 

[vondoom]

whenever i hear something like that i wonder, how old was she? "turns out shes not a virgin" sounds like a surprise to me.. and how old are you then? because that is what is coming to my mind when i hear about slings and slides＾＾

 

[MikeH]

"turns out shes not a virgin" sounds like a surprise to me.. and how old are you then?

Yeah, the age thing probably is the main point here. Being an old ugly pervert if I found out a girl or "almost a virgin" that would make me suddenly remember I forgot to turn the kettle off and have to rush to home immediately.

You know at heart I am a lover, not a teacher. At least not without someone paying me for it.

 

[vargas]

whenever i hear something like that i wonder, how old was she? "turns out shes not a virgin" sounds like a surprise to me.. and how old are you then? because that is what is coming to my mind when i hear about slings and slides＾＾

LOL actually it’s surprisingly common to run across Japanese girls who are 26+ and still virgins. Usually their excuse is they were focused on school and work. Also I’ve heard a lot of guys say they don’t want the hassle of training one

Most fun women are girls at heart and they really enjoy the nostalgia and silliness of behaving like kids in a playground on occasion.

 

[vargas]

Yeah, the age thing probably is the main point here. Being an old ugly pervert if I found out a girl or "almost a virgin" that would make me suddenly remember I forgot to turn the kettle off and have to rush to home immediately.

You know at heart I am a lover, not a teacher. At least not without someone paying me for it.

I’m with you as far as not wanting the hassle of a super shy inexperienced girl who can’t even hint what she wants. But even inexperienced girls can be super horny and fun. Haven’t you enjoyed being with someone who hadn’t had sex in a while, or much experience, but is so ready to go and quivering at the slightest touch? That’s some powerful fun right there

 

[MikeH]

Haven’t you enjoyed being with someone who hadn’t had sex in a while, or much experience, but is so ready to go and quivering at the slightest touch?

Glad you asked! Because I just had that kind of session last night.

Not want to be nitpicking (that's a lie) but that's a totally different thing than being with a virgin or inexperienced girl.

Because the first girl knows what she wants and not having had it for ages she is sure to go for it. So you basically just need to be there, she will use your beautiful dick at her pussy's content.

 

[vargas]

Haha well, there’s still something to be said for inexperience. The more experience you have the less novel things become. Naturally sex is still incredibly enjoyable and fun, but at least personally I need either a novel experience or a really great connection to reach the same level of intensity as I had when sex was a new experience

This poor girl last night was so flustered I thought she might end up passing out and I’m certain her panties were squishy wet. I’ve never met a woman who could cause an equivalent reaction in me on a second date. Then again most women don’t bother to treat seduction as an art form anymore either

 

[tokyosteven77]

How to keep trance mode / magic over several dates?

I think you can't. For me that is a key learning. That vibe which comes from the initial attraction, tension etc basically just dissapates the more and more you talk and get to know each other. Thats why you need to look into things like escalation etc to choose the right time to go from that initial exciting vibe to 'more'.

Of course if she happens to be the 'one', you have a very special connection or whatever, then sure this can last for many dates. But that is regular dating, and happens infrequently. As this is a nampa forum I am assuming we are talking the numbers game, and for that purpose, I feel you have to stop thinking about multiple dates before moving it to the next level. That just puts the whole thing in a very different frame, the vibe will just go and you probably wont get past date 3. So your mindset should not be 'getting her to come back' (for another date) it should be making it happen on date 1, and failing that, the fallback goal for date 1 is getting her teased and excited enough, and making your intentions clear enough so that if theres a date 2 you both know what it means.

Disclaimer.. I'm no expert and feel kinda nervous handing out advice, but.. I do feel I learnt a lot over the past year, and this for me feels like one of the key learnings, hence why i felt I should comment.

 

[Frenchy]

just personal experience but after one full week on vacation with SB i think it’s possible, though not always easy. It was overall a great experience but sometimes you start to see the annoying points in the other , and vice-versa.
it’s simpler to have the perfect date every week or so (which may include an all-nighter after a party for instance). for me at least keeping the “magic” is not a problem over several dates, as long as there is enough space between them
And as for suggested activities... really depends on people but if there is one you both really enjoy even when you’re alone , that’s the one you should focus on. Anything from liking the same TV serie to free-fall jump from a plane, if that’s your thing!

 

[MikeH]

it’s simpler to have the perfect date every week or so (which may include an all-nighter after a party for instance). for me at least keeping the “magic” is not a problem over several dates

Exactly; just meet once per month and you are both waiting for it and then automatically putting effort in the meeting.

 

[Frenchy]

Exactly; just meet once per month and you are both waiting for it and then automatically putting effort in the meeting.

Well I’m not so young but still have needs for more frequency than once a month...

 

[MikeH]

Well I’m not so young but still have needs for more frequency than once a month...

Dude, now you just sound really young and naive. That's why you have enough girls in your list that you can have once-in-a-month meetings every week.

 

[Frenchy]

Dude, now you just sound really young and naive. That's why you have enough girls in your list that you can have once-in-a-month meetings every week.

Oh I have enough girls in my list that it could be once a day, notably if I want really shitty days

 

[MikeH]

Oh I have enough girls in my list that it could be once a day

Says a guy who is so smitten he brings his own sand to the beach. And British sand on top of that!

 

[Frenchy]

Says a guy who is so smitten he brings his own sand to the beach. And British sand on top of that!

Yeah, I know it’s bad... please don’t tell my parents , they would probably delete my name from the will .

 

[MikeH]

Yeah, I know it’s bad... please don’t tell my parents , they would probably delete my name from the will .

Let me guess; your father writes you out because you are sticking to just one girl and your mother because she is British?

 

[Frenchy]

Let me guess; your father writes you out because you are sticking to just one girl and your mother because she is British?

Probably more the opposite, but we digress.
So anyway my definitive answer to the OP is: hire me as your voodoo love spell magician. I need to diversify my income, male escorting is a tough business to be in...

 

[roots reggae]

Or try a little ...

Take her to Disney.

Take her to onsen.

Take her to Yakushima.

I'll agree with Frenchy. Find places to share together that inspire awe. A bit might rub off on you.

 

[okayspot]

Too late, I lost this one.

She did the old trick that she desperately needs money, can you pay in advance??
60,000 yen here you go!

Then she was busy on the scheduled day, I started messaging her once a day after that, which she ignored, after a week she blocked me.

Even to throw it in my face, she re-tweeted a post about lame pestering nightlife customers.

Two times I've fallen for paying girls in advance.... not going to do so anymore...

 

[tokyosteven77]

I thought this was a PUA thread...

 

[roots reggae]

Too late, I lost this one.

She did the old trick that she desperately needs money, can you pay in advance??
60,000 yen here you go!

Then she was busy on the scheduled day, I started messaging her once a day after that, which she ignored, after a week she blocked me.

Even to throw it in my face, she re-tweeted a post about lame pestering nightlife customers.

Two times I've fallen for paying girls in advance.... not going to do so anymore...

I see...

You've been attending the TokyoJoeBlow School of Storytelling.

Firstly, you hook the reader.

Then you add juicy details that you purposely left out...

Up to this point, for the first time, not bad.

However, your plot, especially the twist, was rather underdeveloped.

For homework, review every single one of TokyoJoeBlow's Threads and sign up for his Intermediate Course.

 

[okayspot]

I see...

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You've been attending the TokyoJoeBlow School of Storytelling.

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Firstly, you hook the reader.

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Then you add juicy details that you purposely left out...

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Up to this point, for the first time, not bad.

However, your plot, especially the twist, was rather underdeveloped. View attachment 6541


For homework, review every single one of TokyoJoeBlow's Threads and sign up for his Intermediate Course.

Heh, I wrote in up near the top that I was giving her money each time.

The great thing about this current relationship is that it is literally enjo-kosai..............

She has never asked me for money, I only give her money at the very end of each date, because I met her at a pay to talk(not sexual services) place and felt It is required, want to keep seeing her and I want to help her not work there.

The money I'm giving her works out to something like 3000-4000 yen an hour so it is not like she is in this for just the money.

I guess I became boring unable to keep the trance and she wanted a lump sum of money to get out?

Heh