How would you define a keeper?

[Yuriko]

Haha, sure. I can see that.
My repeats ratio is very low. Rather than by ratio, I
would say 2 to 3 clients. I'm not for FS. I know some FS providers have number of repeats. I only have one or two hour session. Maybe that's another reason...Also, most of my clients are business or holiday travellers. Small number of locals. But I get alot of clients a month. That matters most, tbh.

But to look back, my current repeats are locals...
They come to me once in quarter kind of like. ^ - ^

 

[JohnnyWalker]

Totally agreed, and this is rare. There was this woman on SA whose profile read like this « I travel only first or business and stay only at five stars hotels and I want my own room » . I trolled her a bit, I must admit . It was fun

As they say, I got gold diggers and I got ditch diggers
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[Frenchy]

Hahaha. It fascinates me. They are indeed variety of cocks!!!

Seriously you should write a book, with dick pics of those who volunteered to be in.
My Cocksucker Diary, or something like that. Would sell very well !

 

[MikeH]

Would sell very well !

Can't know that, the sales could suck too.

But if you would replace the normal signing of the books by the author event by giving BJs to every one buying the book...

 

[Frenchy]

Can't know that, the sales could suck too.

But if you would replace the normal signing of the books by the author event by giving BJs to every one buying the book...

It would need to be an expensive book then, luxurious edition etc... if an author gets only 20% of the total (honestly I have no idea) then that should at least cover Yuriko’s normal BJ cost. Otherwise it’s just vile exploitation of her intellectual property, I would be against it for ethical reasons.

 

[Mrmer]

That would be a good summary of my wish list too. The « make me the center » thing is probably, at the end of the day,what should diffentiate the most p4p with a normal GF, in my opinion. With the latter I could understand (even expect) not being attentive all the time and being cold or cranky due to her own problems etc... much harder to accept that when you pay for the lady’s time or spend a fortune on a date. Even worse if I find out this time is used online with other guys!

And totally agreed on the physicality : the one I keep seeing now is not the prettiest (well , some members here who met the same ladies might disagree ) but she’s a dynamo in bed and other places, 100% devoted when we’re together and hilarious when we talk about sex (which seems to be her 2nd favorite pastime just after doing it!)

You would be fun to drink with

 

[Frenchy]

You would be fun to drink with

Depends on the drink

 

[Acid Burn]

For me, it wouldn't really be about looks (boob size, body etc), but rather:
-Her attitude (hard to define but a bad one is easy to spot).
-Treating and talking to me like im a normal human being, not some sad-loser-pervert-creep.

Your post pretty much describes it for me too. Although for looks, I do need to be somewhat attracted to them for me to repeat. But I’ve not repeated with smoking hot ones who have bad attitudes. But a good attitude can easily compensate average looks and make me want to repeat.

-Actually making me feel better about myself afterwards. Not making me wonder about all the other things I could've spent the money on.

Exactly! Everyone I’ve repeated with multiple times has always made me feel better afterwards. I walk out the door feeling great. And not just the I feel good because I just blew my load feeling, it’s more than that.

And it’s not necessarily good conversations since I’ve had talkers whom I’ve felt distant with and then I’ve had quiet ones that I’ve felt much closer, and vice versa.

For those I repeat it’s the sense that she enjoys me being there as a person and not just for the $$$. Yeah yeah it’s p4p but if I just want to pay for jr to ejaculate surrounded by vag I’ll just go to Gotanda or 4th floor Okachimachi for cheap.

-some sense of humor. laughing at my dumb jokes.

the girls I return to repeatedly, all have one thing in common - we laugh together. I'm a fool for a girl with a (genuine) good sense of humour.

Laughing together, yes! Laughing is the best. I’m a sucker for a genuine laugh.

And in the same vein, smiling too. When that courtesy smiling before and after the session sandwiches 2 hrs of no smiles, ugh.

But this is where my old stupid obsession with fairness makes things complicated... it also relates to wanting to be pleasantly surprised

One thing I find myself pleasantly surprised with is when I receive something from the provider. Like when you buy something from a store and they throw some little service into your bag that you weren’t expecting. That kind of feeling.

One time on first meet, one provider at the end of a session ran in back and grabbed some expensive fruit for me before I left. I had not given her anything. One customer gave her just way way too many fruits and she wouldn’t have been able to eat that much. Genuinely friendly vibe. I would’ve loved to repeat with that one but don’t know where she went.

Then one time one gave me something very thoughtful and specific to me where it looks like she went out and got it sometime before my next appointment with her. That just blew me away and still stands out in my head. Definite repeat material. Not because of the item, but because of the thoughtfulness to even want to get me anything.

Nice thread topic btw.

 

[Yuriko]

Seriously you should write a book, with dick pics of those who volunteered to be in.
My Cocksucker Diary, or something like that. Would sell very well !

Hmmm... that sounds very unique and intriguing.
It reminds me the topic I wanted to read, it wasn't adult related, who was an expert they were selling some juicy topics by 30,000.- to read. I turned my back. It's insulting when you ask fosuch money just to dig some info...
but dick album... I'll keep that in mind! ^ - ^
Thanks for the idea.

 

[Frenchy]

Your post pretty much describes it for me too. Although for looks, I do need to be somewhat attracted to them for me to repeat. But I’ve not repeated with smoking hot ones who have bad attitudes. But a good attitude can easily compensate average looks and make me want to repeat.
Exactly! Everyone I’ve repeated with multiple times has always made me feel better afterwards. I walk out the door feeling great. And not just the I feel good because I just blew my load feeling, it’s more than that.

And it’s not necessarily good conversations since I’ve had talkers whom I’ve felt distant with and then I’ve had quiet ones that I’ve felt much closer, and vice versa.

For those I repeat it’s the sense that she enjoys me being there as a person and not just for the $$$. Yeah yeah it’s p4p but if I just want to pay for jr to ejaculate surrounded by vag I’ll just go to Gotanda or 4th floor Okachimachi for cheap.
Laughing together, yes! Laughing is the best. I’m a sucker for a genuine laugh.

And in the same vein, smiling too. When that courtesy smiling before and after the session sandwiches 2 hrs of no smiles, ugh.
One thing I find myself pleasantly surprised with is when I receive something from the provider. Like when you buy something from a store and they throw some little service into your bag that you weren’t expecting. That kind of feeling.

One time on first meet, one provider at the end of a session ran in back and grabbed some expensive fruit for me before I left. I had not given her anything. One customer gave her just way way too many fruits and she wouldn’t have been able to eat that much. Genuinely friendly vibe. I would’ve loved to repeat with that one but don’t know where she went.

Then one time one gave me something very thoughtful and specific to me where it looks like she went out and got it sometime before my next appointment with her. That just blew me away and still stands out in my head. Definite repeat material. Not because of the item, but because of the thoughtfulness to even want to get me anything.

Nice thread topic btw.

It feels great isnt it? Even if it’s symbolic , even if maybe they do the same with others , who cares? For once being offered something instead of just being expected to fork for everything... I love that too. Also ladies who are genuinely grateful beyond just saying thank you, those who do the extra mile for you when you do it for them...

Silly anecdote but this also shows why my current keeper is a keeper (in addition to the crazy sex and crazier sex talk): she knows my daughter is into BTS and that I could not find tickets for their concert. She spent one hour calling or texting her Korean connections trying to get some. Ultimately failed, but I was nearly moved to tears when she did that. She never met my offspring and never will of course, but she was ready to do that for her and it meant the world to me. Silly Frenchy, I know

 

[Troilist]

All the ladies we tend to repeat with all have their own unique qualities which are not necessary the same across the board. But the qualities they all have in common would be kindness, genuineness, professionalism, and most importantly they all choose to be in this profession because they enjoy it.

 

[sealax]

A few things that keep me coming back

Hotness sexuality ,doing what I ask of you,able to carry on a conversation and make me the center of your world for our duration. I’m easy. Being a foodie and traveler a plus


Just funny how chemistry goes I’ve been wth 10s and it’s been fine. But been with not as physically fine and they were so much better connection.

Agree completely. One of the things I really like about TAG is that there are more than one of these types of young women who are members/contributers/providers. I think that is very unusual.

 

[Frenchy]

Agree completely. One of the things I really like about TAG is that there are more than one of these types of young women who are members/contributers/providers. I think that is very unusual.

Agreed. Even more diversity would be welcome. I would love to see more bisexual ladies for instance, or very mature ones with lots of stories to tell

 

[Acid Burn]

Silly anecdote but this also shows why my current keeper is a keeper (in addition to the crazy sex and crazier sex talk): she knows my daughter is into BTS and that I could not find tickets for their concert. She spent one hour calling or texting her Korean connections trying to get some. Ultimately failed, but I was nearly moved to tears when she did that. She never met my offspring and never will of course, but she was ready to do that for her and it meant the world to me. Silly Frenchy, I know

Omg, that sure is a keeper right there.

 

[Frenchy]

Omg, that sure is a keeper right there.

Yes! And best of all, I did not need to ask her (would have never thought of it to be honest, it’s not exactly in a SB’s job description !) .
Also she brought me a delicious home-made pastry post Valentine which was to die for (looked awful though, which makes me think it was really home-made )

 

[Sterling]

A girl who cooks you dinner and/or invites you to stay at her place would come close, but even that I would describe as a "potential keeper". Otherwise, in P4P there's no such thing as a keeper. As long as you're a paying customer and that's what's keeping the whole thing going, then you're always free to take your business elsewhere.

 

[Frenchy]

Thanks for your answer. But Unicorns? Not really. I actually met more keepers than ladies who made me want to run for the exit after a few minutes... I truely enjoyed being with them most of the time, even if I knew it was « fake » , and even when I felt a bit too used and abused (as you mentioned) , the good memories still outweigh the bad ones.
And although I am currently in a « fuck that, I spend way too much on these ladies » mood , and I ended a few stale relationships, I still meet one of them about twice a month.

True unicorns for me are actually not the keepers but those encounters that happened only once and were really exceptional. The « booked for a few hours , stayed the whole night (coz they wanted it) and fucked my brains out repeatedly » types. Like the Black Pearl (French Carribean model-type escort in Paris while I was on a business trip there) and my recent Valentines Day SB (Australian-Asian tourist, although not really P4P as she just wanted to be entertained and didnt ask for cash). Now if only those two could have become keepers!

A little update... Girl from Sydney , I’ll fly her to Tokyo for the sakuras period. So there, she may be a keeper after all (AND Unicorn too)

 

[Exnocomment]

A little update... Girl from Sydney , I’ll fly her to Tokyo for the sakuras period. So there, she may be a keeper after all (AND Unicorn too)

Nice, that should be fun! I haven’t been in Japan during the season in years.

Fly me over too~

 

[Frenchy]

Nice, that should be fun! I haven’t been in Japan during the season in years.

Fly me over too~

Are you an Oz guy? Lets have fun! Not sure we’ll beat you at RWC (no way in hell we could) but lets have fun with the ladiiiiies!

 

[Exnocomment]

Are you an Oz guy? Lets have fun! Not sure we’ll beat you at RWC (no way in hell we could) but lets have fun with the ladiiiiies!

Not an Aussie, different part of the commonwealth, and my time in Tokyo is almost always driven by business needs.

Still up in the air whether I’ll be spending a lot of time there next year or not considering current projects.. we shall see!

 

[meiji]

Generally I don't repeat too much in the hobby, because if I want a deep level of intimacy and companionship I'll have a regular girlfriend. I hobby because I want the sexual fireworks that comes from meeting someone hot that knows what she's doing. There's something intensely erotic about going to a woman's in-call or having a woman knock on my hotel room door, having never met her and knowing we'll be playing together shortly. It takes a really attractive women with a lot of skill and personality to overcome that for me.

I do repeat occasionally with gems that I've met because not knowing the girl that I'm meeting also sometimes means she might not be that attractive to me or she might not have good technique, etc, so seeing a 'known quantity' is sometimes a better choice. The problem that I find is (especially in the SF area Korean escort market), their availability is somewhat inconsistent, so a girl might be here for a month, might be here for 3 months, might do that and then come back 6 months later, etc. For example, there was a girl I've described as the "Korean Jennifer Connelly" (think this scene, but with a naked Korean girl doing P2P) that's one of my all time favorites but didn't get to see her much. She had the looks, the illusion of passion, and she had a great personality so she was fun to talk to between pops.

It's probably better this way, since I'm almost positive I'd fall for the wrong girl and she'd spurn me or even worse, use me for money and then spurn me. I'll just continue seeing various attractive girls and occasionally having a truly mind-blowing experience in bed that I can repeat a few times while she's around.

 

[Frenchy]

Generally I don't repeat too much in the hobby, because if I want a deep level of intimacy and companionship I'll have a regular girlfriend. I hobby because I want the sexual fireworks that comes from meeting someone hot that knows what she's doing. There's something intensely erotic about going to a woman's in-call or having a woman knock on my hotel room door, having never met her and knowing we'll be playing together shortly. It takes a really attractive women with a lot of skill and personality to overcome that for me.

I do repeat occasionally with gems that I've met because not knowing the girl that I'm meeting also sometimes means she might not be that attractive to me or she might not have good technique, etc, so seeing a 'known quantity' is sometimes a better choice. The problem that I find is (especially in the SF area Korean escort market), their availability is somewhat inconsistent, so a girl might be here for a month, might be here for 3 months, might do that and then come back 6 months later, etc. For example, there was a girl I've described as the "Korean Jennifer Connelly" (think this scene, but with a naked Korean girl doing P2P) that's one of my all time favorites but didn't get to see her much. She had the looks, the illusion of passion, and she had a great personality so she was fun to talk to between pops.

It's probably better this way, since I'm almost positive I'd fall for the wrong girl and she'd spurn me or even worse, use me for money and then spurn me. I'll just continue seeing various attractive girls and occasionally having a truly mind-blowing experience in bed that I can repeat a few times while she's around.

Hmmmmm.... loved that scene, thanks. Can only imagine what the Korean version would look like, you’re a lucky man!

 

[meiji]

Hmmmmm.... loved that scene, thanks. Can only imagine what the Korean version would look like, you’re a lucky man!

Basically girl with similar hair, similar-ish face, very slender but with C-cups that were fake but very well done. P2P (summate) is pretty standard in the Bay Area. She had this sultry look, lots of lip biting and heavy breathing. I wish she'd come back.

 

[Mrmer]

In the end I lean towards the short cute brunettes or black hair ladies. Blonds are totally fun bangs. But hey

I’m 5 11 and I like chicks who are counter height . So those long tall girls nah. And I’ve found brunettes are so fucking kinky. I’ve meet two that have out done my wicked mind. Just blonds ..less vibe

 

[Frenchy]

In the end I lean towards the short cute brunettes or black hair ladies. Blinds are totally fun bangs. But hey

Blinds?!!