If you had the opportunity to choose a mainstream western porn star provider?

Lots of good choices here. I don't know a lot of current day names other than Alina Li (who isn't really an American porn star). Most of the stars turned escorts did so far past their prime and probably 3 or 4 too many plastic surgeries. I've seen Yui Komine and would love to see her again, especially if FS was on the menu. JAV girls escorting are almost always younger and inexpensive. For the cost of most western pornstars that have been retired 10 years, I could have a 3-some with 2 loli-type JAV girls that are in their late 20s at best and are still making movies (true, no FS there). If only my budget would allow that sort of thing on a regular basis.

It's true that JAV girls usually charge less but I don't know about younger. Yes, many of the publicly listed and well known to be escorting American porn stars are 10+ years retired, but that doesn't mean that their aren't any young ones. Don't get me wrong, I haven't seen any of the 18 or 19 year old stars just starting available, but many of the 20-25 age range are. Unless they are just going superstar fast like Riley Reid did most of them could use the income boost. A lot of the ones that don't escort will do special appearances at Strip Clubs or sell private cam shows ect.

As for the price, I think that's mainly just the agencies telling these girls that they should charge that. The ones I've seen advertise independently have rates more in line with the rest of the indies in the US.
 
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I could go for Alina Li though she does have the most ridiculous tattoo I have ever seen. And that's saying a lot. :D

But I believe she quit already.
She is definitely a smoking spinner.... but I've never seen any vdo of her will have to look
 
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I had to look it up but i actually think her tattoo looks really sexy.

That pistol that points to her pussy? I would be afraid to enter in case it misfires and takes my balls off. :eek::D
 
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I remember watching some porn video somewhere, like a casting couch setting. Girl takes off her panties and there is a fucking gigantic tattoo of a demon face across her entire crotch. They never even got to the sex. Director kept asking her what the fuck she was thinking.
 
Anyone ever heard of Ava Hardy? Very few shoots (mainstream production) but oh jizzus, she handled all of em. ;)
 
I had to look it up but i actually think her tattoo looks really sexy.
I had forgotten the name but when I looked her up I remembered she had done some very hot scenes for Kink.com a few years ago. I wish she had done more because I thought she was great. The Tatoo really works on her I think. Not every one could pull it off.

Now that I have been reminded of her I have Alice + JLAW AND Alice + Alina Li 3p fantasies!
 
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I remember watching some porn video somewhere, like a casting couch setting. Girl takes off her panties and there is a fucking gigantic tattoo of a demon face across her entire crotch. They never even got to the sex. Director kept asking her what the fuck she was thinking.

And now I'm on a quest to find this tattoo...
 
She is definitely a smoking spinner.... but I've never seen any vdo of her will have to look

Alina Li = 5'8" = 173cm = NOT A SPINNER. Not even close. </petpeeve>

That pistol that points to her pussy? I would be afraid to enter in case it misfires and takes my balls off. :eek::D

Yeah, very small tattoos I'm usually okay with. A woman with a perfect body with a giant pistol on her abdomen is a crying shame. I once met with a gorgeous 20-something escort (Caucasian) who had a pair of Playboy bunnies on either side of her belly button, and I thought the exact same thing.
 
Alina Li = 5'8" = 173cm = NOT A SPINNER. Not even close. </petpeeve>

You know I agree with your definition but there's no way she is 173 cm.

Seems different sites list her at 165, 170 or 173 but seeing several of her movies I'd be surprised if she was even 165. Definitely looks way smaller than that.
 
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You know I agree with your definition but there's no way she is 173 cm.

Seems different sites list her at 165, 170 or 173 but seeing several of her movies I'd be surprised if she was even 165. Definitely looks way smaller than that.
Sadly, I think we'll never get the chance to find out for sure. She seems to have disappeared since 2014....

https://pornstars4escort.com/alina-li-escort/
 
Sadly, I think we'll never get the chance to find out for sure. She seems to have disappeared since 2014....

Yeah, her porn career was short lived, only from 2013 to 2014. But she did make an amazing number of videos during that time.

She quit after doing a video with kink.com, I've seen parts of it and no wonder. Not my kink at all.
 
Yeah, her porn career was short lived, only from 2013 to 2014. But she did make an amazing number of videos during that time.

She quit after doing a video with kink.com, I've seen parts of it and no wonder. Not my kink at all.

Oh really? I've seen two of her kink.com videos and she seemed to enjoy the shoot. Of course, I've just gone to look up all her shoots with them and see she did public disgrace. That one is not my kink either and I'm always amazed at how far they take it so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the one.
 
Oh really? I've seen two of her kink.com videos and she seemed to enjoy the shoot. Of course, I've just gone to look up all her shoots with them and see she did public disgrace. That one is not my kink either and I'm always amazed at how far they take it so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the one.

I didn't know she did more than one with them; and yeah, it was the public disgrace after which she said that was enough. I think she made some money selling her work clothes (heh!) in Twitter afterwards.
 
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I didn't know she did more than one with them; and yeah, it was the public disgrace after which she said that was enough. I think she made some money selling her work clothes (heh!) in Twitter afterwards.
Jesus, what did they do to her?
 
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Jesus, what did they do to her?

I think I saw like 10 minutes of the video and in that time they took her naked in a leash to a convenience store where they made her eat dog food while people got to write stuff on her body with a felt pen.

After that I decided it's not my thing. But she has been tied, gagged and strangled while getting entered with several big guys in all possible holes and she came out from those situations smiling and telling sex work is fun. So it must have been something pretty drastic to make her stop working.
 
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Jesus, what did they do to her?
A few stills and trailer video are available....https://www.kink.com/shoot/35439

Trailer doesn't look that bad compared to some of the stuff they have done on that site and ends with her saying "I was like enjoying every second of it" with a big smile. Of course, she was still on camera with the people she wanted a check from so....
 
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You know I agree with your definition but there's no way she is 173 cm.

Seems different sites list her at 165, 170 or 173 but seeing several of her movies I'd be surprised if she was even 165. Definitely looks way smaller than that.

Yeah, regardless. 165 isn't a spinner either. I'd be generous and say 155 and below is a spinner IF the girl is 45kg or less. The French have the international prototype metre bar that defines the actual length of a meter. There needs to be one of those for spinners, and my job would be to compare against the international standard.

I think I saw like 10 minutes of the video and in that time they took her naked in a leash to a convenience store where they made her eat dog food while people got to write stuff on her body with a felt pen.

After that I decided it's not my thing. But she has been tied, gagged and strangled while getting entered with several big guys in all possible holes and she came out from those situations smiling and telling sex work is fun. So it must have been something pretty drastic to make her stop working.

yeah, that public disgrace series is super-intense. I watched parts of the Alina Li one - not my thing either. It's not just the making her eat dogfood and drawing on her, I think it's the psychological crap involved with essentially a small mob of people doing that, calling her names, and getting gang banged by guys at the same time. I could certainly see that sort of chaos make the sex a lot more unfun vs just being with a few guys at once. I don't think she ever did anal on screen did she?
 
The French have the international prototype metre bar that defines the actual length of a meter. There needs to be one of those for spinners

I may not have a prototype bar, but I do have a pole that I'd be willing to check them with.
 
I don't think she ever did anal on screen did she?

She didn't, which makes it even more surprising I was watching her. As being a spinner and doing anal are usually the basic requirements for me. :eek::D
 
I may not have a prototype bar, but I do have a pole that I'd be willing to check them with.

Yeah, but is it beautiful? :cool: