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I'll be in Tokyo for less than 2 years, budget for TAG fun style 180.000 yen monthly

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by AndreasAZ, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. AndreasAZ

    AndreasAZ TAG Member

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    I'll be in Tokyo for less than 2 years, I set my affordable budget for TAG fun style 200.000 yen monthly, I will have time only during weekend (so kind of 50.000 yen a week on average).

    I welcome any suggestion how to "invest" that money, examples relationship (max 2 years), Nampa/PUA, Sugar dating, collegues flirting, massage, escorts....
     
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  2. Mischa Maxwell

    Mischa MaxwellMischa Maxwell is a Verified Member Curves and a smile. Tokyo July, Sydney now.

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    I'm going to assume that you are 100% single?

    Flirting with colleagues is a no-no. Definitely.

    A relationship with a time limit of 2 years only could be tricky.

    If I were in your shoes... I would try all other options once and then decide what you liked the best. A weekly booking with an escort that you 'click' with could satisfy you both physically and emotionally. Rotate one or two escorts if you prefer.

    Sugar-dating is an option.

    However, if you're purely after sexual gratification.... soapland, delivery health, massage, and Nampa/PUA are all options.
     
  3. AndreasAZ

    AndreasAZ TAG Member

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    Misha thanks. "Try all other options once and then decide" is a way to go. On the other side, I'd mind to waste time (and yen).

    Why no collegues? Or company ladies met at parties?

    "A relationship with a time limit of 2 years only could be tricky." That's why I ask advice here.

    Nampa/PUA: I don't have time, will and energy for that in Japan, that's my estimate. I am over 20s.

    soapland, delivery health, massage: I am worried for my health, they will be worried that I am a sick foreigner.

    Sugar-dating: I am not an expert, not even a beginner.

    Escorts: could cost me more than I plan, average I see is 1 hour 30.000 yen in Tokyo, while my goal is 3hours+ (all night) on all saturdays.

    "satisfy you both physically and emotionally" would be the best, I forecast hard and long working hours in Japan for me.
     
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  4. Anna Summer

    Anna SummerAnna Summer is a Verified Member Independent Escort

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    If your goal is 3+ hours or maybe overnight each Saturday you can try your luck at deai cafes such as kirari or momo. They have several branches in Shinjuku, Shibuya, Ueno and Ikebukuro.
     
  5. Exnocomment

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    I will echo avoiding colleagues as it is likely to blow up in your face big time. There were some other threads about that as well.

    Your budget is reasonable but your expectations are a bit out of whack.. I'll say take it slow. Start immersing yourself into the country (and the adult community) and enjoy the ride. A non exclusive SB relationship might be within your budgetary constraints but probably not with respect to time. Take the first month to explore your schedule and what you enjoy and are comfortable with is my advice.
     
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  6. AndreasAZ

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    Thanks Anna for the advice, I wasn't aware of that option. From a quick search kirari or momo, privacy is low, quality talk mmm I don't know.
    How would You score/compare yourself with an average lady from kirari? 9 vs 3, A vs C?
     
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  7. AndreasAZ

    AndreasAZ TAG Member

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    Thanks Exnocomment. I am in Japan against my preference, ok career is great but com'on why Japan is so important? I don't want to immerse in the country "too much". I won't stay here long.
    Exnocomment is it easier to set my target on non japanese ladies (chinese, russians, etc..), with good culture, nice talk?
     
  8. Anna Summer

    Anna SummerAnna Summer is a Verified Member Independent Escort

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    I would never compare myself to any other lady out there. Everyone is different and offers something different and unique. You can have something very memorable from a deai cafe but it can also go the wrong way as other members here have reported already.
     
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  9. AndreasAZ

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    Sorry Anna, I take it back. :banghead:
     
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    AliceInWonderlandAliceInWonderland is a Verified Member Companion

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    There are special delivery health companies like Tokyo Hentai Club and Asian Mystique that only target foreigners so they wont be afraid of you. Unlike some soaplands or korean delivery healths, the standart there is to do it with condom so its not so dangerous.

    Deai cafe is an option. The women there vary each time and each guy has different types so no idea how to comment on that point. The girls are often reasonably cute but they tend to be afraid of foreigners actually. The stunners wont go for cheap also, but japanese guys and foreign guys often have different types so this may give you an advantage in some cases.
     
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    I think this is a rough attitude to have.. I don't know your age or background but I'm not saying "Japan is important" .. but 2 years is a long time and it will be your home for that period of time. It is also the "home" of the ladies you're talking about trying to meet so learning about it will help you make appropriate decisions. Picking up some rudimentary Japanese will help you a lot as well as being aware of basic local customers. Don't be in so much of a rush..! :p
     
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    Deciding not to immerse to your new home environment, regardless of the country, is the surest way not to have any fun... If you are just waiting to get out two years can feel like a prison sentence. :(
     
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    200,000 a month?
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    Oh how I envy you!

    I would have to agree with Exnocomment's thoughts on the matter, especially if you're interested in hooking up with Japanese women. Consider taking part in any kind of shops for example, I would think you would benefit greatly if you took your time to learn about all the different kinds and the manners/etiquette involved when visiting said shops. It would help you to get the best experiences possible and maybe even help you discover new things that you didn't know you were totally into.
     
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    WwandererWwanderer is a Verified Member TAG Member

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    @AndreasAZ - Fwiiw, I also agree with @Exnocomment's perspective. In my life I have spent time in about 50 countries and have visited the majority of the world's "great cities", and Japan and Tokyo are by far my favorites in both categories. Imo, it would be madly foolish to throw away the opportunity your stay represents by minimizing your contact with the local culture.

    That is not to say that you will necessarily like it. There are those who find it uniquely charming and almost addictive but also those who find it irritating or even repulsive...depends on you. But if you don't dig in deep enough to discover Japan's/Tokyo's quirky character, you will never know.

    As for how to best dispose of your budget for adult fun, I have little to add to the several bits of excellent advice in the posts above. As @Mischa Maxwell and @Anna Summer mention, the best option depends a lot on your goals (purely sexual or also partly social) and what factors are important to you (appearance, personality, skill, variety, safety...).

    -Ww
     
  15. BladeRunner

    BladeRunner But then again, who does?

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    ¥200k per month!? You'll be in heaven.

    If you need a bro to hang with, drink and go to strip clubs - all I'll ask is my expenses paid! :couchpotato:
     
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  16. AndreasAZ

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    ¥200k per month is big money for adult service in Tokyo? I don't think so, 4 hours dinner and dessert included will blow it away in one night.

    Edit: BladeRunner, get ready I might contact you to join me for my first night tour of Tokyo, if your help is effective and you cost me less than tokyostag packages you are enlisted.
     
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    You are talking about top escorts there.
    Did you try seeking arrangement yet?
    50.000 for about 4 hours of both social time and play would be a reasonable offer there. Its a gamble but since the website is originally not Japanese it will be easier to use as a foreigner than deai cafe. It takes some time to mail girls and negotiate but its free to use.
     
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  18. AndreasAZ

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    Thanks all, I appreciated the feedback. I am doing a quick last minute effort to understand things from "here" before the hard landing "there".

    No arrangment yet, I am not in Japan, I don't have a japanese email address/phone, nor I know etiquee, nor I speak nihongo. I doubt I can make any agreement.

    I am tempted to meet some of you to learn, either bro to join me expenses paid or escorts. Escorts will not have interest to teach me how to enjoy business that is competing with them, agencies (soapland, etc...) I don't trust, street walking Tokyo I will be a scam target. Slow learning will hit me most when I am going to be mostly alone the first period, when I need more a companion.
     
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    "Seeking arrangement" is a website:
    https://www.seekingarrangement.com

    It doesn't always work out though, it can take time until you find someone with the same expectations as you there. Set your country on "Japan".
     
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    Not with that attitude they won't mister!

    While your budget is not massive it is not tiny and as you plan to be in the country on a contiguous basis for 2 years you can slowly invest in a good relationship with a few specific ladies. If they trust you and are comfortable, who is to say they won't adventure out with you? You have to be patient though~

    I do agree meeting up with folks may speed up the learning curve but many folks here are shy.. :p:oops:
     
  21. AndreasAZ

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    @AliceInWonderland Do you suggest me using a different alias for each service? I was going to use the same I have on TAG. Any risk?

    I will stay there (Tokyo) for a while (!sigh, prison!) so how useful is to start with a good reputation in the adult comunity? Also isn't better, I read online, to be a frequent customer of a single (girls, agency, etc..) to receive better service (in the japanese customer care style)? I would hate to randomly hit many "shops" for 3/6 months and be treated as a newcomer/beginner.
     
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    I'm not sure about using a different or the same alias. I guess as long as you dont use your real name there are no major risks.
    How is your japanese level? Because if you dont speak Japanese your choices will be quite limited anyway.
    Having one and the same girl certainly improves your chances at good service, but it can only happen if you have a good chemistry with the girl. Being a regular at a shop might get you nice treatment by the staff but if you always take different girls, usually not a lot better service.
    For people who dont speak Japanese, there are a few agencies who have English speaking staff.
     
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  23. AndreasAZ

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    Ok, let me sort, first 3 months, 12 night outs

    a) I will try and go hit Tokyo with tokyostag package tour

    b) I will try and go hit Tokyo with one "volunteer" bro from TAG, at my expenses:
    ? (what do you think, better not to involve my male collegues with embarassing "help" requests? or is it normal?)

    c) I will try two or 3 companions listed on TAG:
    @AliceInWonderland , @Anna Summer , (better priority to American, Australian, British ladies right?, or japanese lady to speed my understanding?)

    d) I will try one lady from each of the 4 agencies listed on TAG:
    Asian Mystique, Club Boo, Nasty Dolls, Made in Japan

    e) parallel I will try https://www.seekingarrangement.com

    later kiraki and momo (soaplands etcc, after I understadn Japanese culture :confused::confused::confused::confused:)

    and hope for advice from " @Wwanderer, @TheScientist and maybe @statrosa "


    Edit: I don't speak japanese (just 30 words, when I am not drunk katakana and hiragana, no kanji), I am and I look western.
     
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    Best advice I can give you is read every thread here on TAG, seriously. I learned a lot here and not just from the posts but also what people say about places. I'm willing to answer questions about things as well.
     
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    If being in Tokyo with 200,000 available to blow monthly is "prison", think I'll go out and commit some crimes right now so that I can join you! :D

    As AliceInWonderland has mentioned, being a "regular" may get you better service, but it's not a guarantee. So if the service was just average at best, I'm not sure if I'd be willing to continue on unless there's something about the girl or establishment that you really like.

    Personally I've only experienced 2 sessions in Japan with one of them not comfortable with meeting with foreigners, but since I'm technically Japanese (born in raised outside of Japan) and know some Japanese, I was still able book said session. But I've read and heard enough to know that looking like a foreigner and having limited knowledge in Japanese will limit your options. If visiting a shop, I've heard people getting a "wingman" who is Japanese to help get their foot in the door sometimes works. How the arrangement works (i.e. do you pay for the wingman's session, does he partake at all) varies.
     
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