Kawasaki and Yokohama Soapland Resource and Discussion Thread

kirayamato said:
I wonder why am I interpreting it as japanese who cant speak japanese cant enter?
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The full stop (little circle) after "foreigners" makes it confusing. But then the notice with "Japanese only" in big letters only adds to the confusion, as the text under it seems to indicated that the "Japanese" does not means "Japanese nationals" but "Japanese language."
 
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I went to KiraKira today and received this.
If this have been shared elsewhere, I apolozige.

Anyway; the staff shared this to me only 20 minutes before the appointement, so after I confirmed. Hopefully I read something similar here and prepared the money but their website is not clear about that.
So make sure to ask for the Point Card as it seems to work for the sister-shops too.

I didn't understand what are all the benefits and I asked the staff to share with me the paper but they didn't reply so far.
If I understood correctly with my poor Japanese, one you get 8 stamp; you can become VIP and once you are VIP you can get some benefits such as "access to the best girls".
What does it mean? Some girls are hidden to non VIP person ?

If I manage to get all the benefits, I'll share here.
 

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haleck said:
I went to KiraKira today and received this.
If this have been shared elsewhere, I apolozige.

Anyway; the staff shared this to me only 20 minutes before the appointement, so after I confirmed. Hopefully I read something similar here and prepared the money but their website is not clear about that.
So make sure to ask for the Point Card as it seems to work for the sister-shops too.

I didn't understand what are all the benefits and I asked the staff to share with me the paper but they didn't reply so far.
If I understood correctly with my poor Japanese, one you get 8 stamp; you can become VIP and once you are VIP you can get some benefits such as "access to the best girls".
What does it mean? Some girls are hidden to non VIP person ?

If I manage to get all the benefits, I'll share here.
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so we still have chance to avoid gaijin tax after august by collecting 8 stamps?

https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/soapland-vip-member-card.34037/#post-384333
 
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Interesting how it's written in English, so it suggests that you don't need to be a Japanese speaker to get the VIP card

haleck said:
you can become VIP and once you are VIP you can get some benefits such as "access to the best girls".
What does it mean? Some girls are hidden to non VIP person ?
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Maybe he meant that foreigners with a VIP card can choose from a lineup of who is available instead of no choice at all?
 
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So kirakira basically became +5k tax now?!
Or is 31k applicable to Japanese also
 
Doggyfong said:
So kirakira basically became +5k tax now?!
Or is 31k applicable to Japanese also
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Sorry I don't know if it's applicable to Japanese too.

I talk a bit wit the staff on Line trying to understand how it works. Inside the shop, I was giving a form in English to sign related to the Point Card and listed 3 benefits.
Unfortunately, they didn't let me read through it and when I asked again, they refused to give me more information just saying that 8 points give you access to Member Rates (means old and still advertised on their website as today prices).

I could be just a misunderstanding since I cannot speak Japanese that well.
 
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haleck said:
Sorry I don't know if it's applicable to Japanese too.

I talk a bit wit the staff on Line trying to understand how it works. Inside the shop, I was giving a form in English to sign related to the Point Card and listed 3 benefits.
Unfortunately, they didn't let me read through it and when I asked again, they refused to give me more information just saying that 8 points give you access to Member Rates (means old and still advertised on their website as today prices).

I could be just a misunderstanding since I cannot speak Japanese that well.
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basically what I understood based on another thread, after august there will be +5000 gaijin tax but if you have that special vip card will be able to use current rate without tax (26k for 70min)

if they increase the price for japanese they will change it their homepage, which now still the same.
 
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kirayamato said:
basically what I understood based on another thread, after august there will be +5000 gaijin tax but if you have that special vip card will be able to use current rate without tax (26k for 70min)

if they increase the price for japanese they will change it their homepage, which now still the same.
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exactly why it baffles me if this is a blanket rule or just gaijin rule
 
haleck said:
Sorry I don't know if it's applicable to Japanese too.

I talk a bit wit the staff on Line trying to understand how it works. Inside the shop, I was giving a form in English to sign related to the Point Card and listed 3 benefits.
Unfortunately, they didn't let me read through it and when I asked again, they refused to give me more information just saying that 8 points give you access to Member Rates (means old and still advertised on their website as today prices).

I could be just a misunderstanding since I cannot speak Japanese that well.
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This price is (+5000)for only foreigners.they issue a point card with 8 boxes,once you complete get all boxes it's reduce to normal Japanese price.Meaning you have to commit to spend additional 40000 yen to get the (-5000 yen discount )normal Japanese price.Which is a total rip off
 
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dapper said:
This price is (+5000)for only foreigners.they issue a point card this 8 boxes,once you complete get all boxes it's reduce to normal Japanese price.Meaning you have to commit to spend additional 40000 yen to get the (-5000 yen discount )normal Japanese price.Which is a total rip off
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Having a point card to pay less: ❌
Having a point card to stop paying more: ✅

I just hope we can get the point card filled if we've been there 8 times already 😆
 
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rikipara said:
I just hope we can get the point card filled if we've been there 8 times already 😆
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When I went at the beginning of the month I refused the point card out of spite. Anyway, I went again I got the card. The tencho I got this time was nice and when I explained I had been there before he gave me stamps for every previous visit, plus an extra one as a freebie.
I think I just got lucky but it might be worth it to ask about getting previous visits counted towards the card.
 
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I apologize if this hasn't been mentioned before but I wonder if it's worth adding a column for places that require having a Japanese phone number.

I haven't hit up any places in Kawasaki since last year but there were a couple places in the past (Bijin Lab, Jyotei Orihime) where it's not the language barrier that is the stopper but whether or not you possess a Japanese phone number. I'll wager a guess this is the residency check? :p

Generally speaking, I mostly do walk-ups as I don't always rent a SIM card when I travel to Japan. Hilariously, despite my many years traveling here and fair confidence in my Japanese language abilities... I absolutely hate talking in Japanese on the phone.

Anyways, if this has been addressed in some form or another then don't mind me. I figure it would be a useful additional tidbit of information for folks from outside of Japan.
 
BBallingSD said:
Generally speaking, I mostly do walk-ups as I don't always rent a SIM card when I travel to Japan. Hilariously, despite my many years traveling here and fair confidence in my Japanese language abilities... I absolutely hate talking in Japanese on the phone.
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Most phone convos go OK for me, but if there's static or a lot of background noise it's reallllly difficult for me.

My hearing is shot from work and (mostly, tbh) concerts and it's hard to distinguish sounds, especially a foreign language, when there's a lot of other sound going on. I also can't understand Japanese at all during a session when the shower or tub is running - just too loud for me. :/ But over the phone, without being able to see lips or body language, super yikes.
 
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BBallingSD said:
I apologize if this hasn't been mentioned before but I wonder if it's worth adding a column for places that require having a Japanese phone number.

I haven't hit up any places in Kawasaki since last year but there were a couple places in the past (Bijin Lab, Jyotei Orihime) where it's not the language barrier that is the stopper but whether or not you possess a Japanese phone number. I'll wager a guess this is the residency check? :p

Generally speaking, I mostly do walk-ups as I don't always rent a SIM card when I travel to Japan. Hilariously, despite my many years traveling here and fair confidence in my Japanese language abilities... I absolutely hate talking in Japanese on the phone.

Anyways, if this has been addressed in some form or another then don't mind me. I figure it would be a useful additional tidbit of information for folks from outside of Japan.
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I don't see this information being of any use. If you want to book somewhere in advance you always need a phone number to verify with staff....I think the few times I didn't have to call a shop in Kawasaki was when I repeated with the same girl and she told me it's OK.

...and if a shop lets you in without a booking, a phone number is most probably not necessary.
 
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Danbo said:
...and if a shop lets you in without a booking, a phone number is most probably not necessary.
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Actually, my point was regarding walk-ins. I've been denied a few times before because the staff at a shop asked if I had a Japanese phone number to be contacted at or not. Otherwise yeah, I completely get your point. That's all /o/
 
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I'll wager a guess this is the residency check? :p
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Security measurement. Phones are linked to a person's ID card in Japan, so if you did something bad, they may be able to trace who you are. Of course, being a resident also makes it easier to be held accountable than being a tourist.
 
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I spoke with the staff today at Utage. It was interesting.

They are a Japanese ONLY establishment. He said that the shop is busy enough without the hassle of dealing with the few foreigners that occasionally visit. He gave a few factors. Since this store specializes in 70 minute sessions, ladies need to chat with their customers. Just because foreigners can get past the front desk doesn't mean they can speak enough Japanese to make the session comfortable. Secondly, physical size. This shop refuses all nationalities including Japanese if they are too physically big/heavy. He said foreigners are often bigger than what the ladies feel comfortable. Thirdly, he said that some nationalities have unique body odors. (I believe he means the scent of curry or garlic) Ladies do not like and are not comfortable. Lastly, they want long time clients not one offs. He feels most foreigners are not repeat customers.

The reason it is a hassle is because he says he can't win. He can't say, you are brown, you are not allowed. Or you are too big or too smelly. Easier to make a blanket policy "No Foreigners"

He also said, he also knows that I am not Japanese but I look Japanese enough and speak Japanese well enough. He knew since the first time I cam to this shop.

Hmmm. Not sure how I feel but it looks like I am one of the few foreign exemptions.
 
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Rick Wonger said:
I spoke with the staff today at Utage. It was interesting.

They are a Japanese ONLY establishment. He said that the shop is busy enough without the hassle of dealing with the few foreigners that occasionally visit. He gave a few factors. Since this store specializes in 70 minute sessions, ladies need to chat with their customers. Just because foreigners can get past the front desk doesn't mean they can speak enough Japanese to make the session comfortable. Secondly, physical size. This shop refuses all nationalities including Japanese if they are too physically big/heavy. He said foreigners are often bigger than what the ladies feel comfortable. Thirdly, he said that some nationalities have unique body odors. (I believe he means the scent of curry or garlic) Ladies do not like and are not comfortable. Lastly, they want long time clients not one offs. He feels most foreigners are not repeat customers.

The reason it is a hassle is because he says he can't win. He can't say, you are brown, you are not allowed. Or you are too big or too smelly. Easier to make a blanket policy "No Foreigners"

He also said, he also knows that I am not Japanese but I look Japanese enough and speak Japanese well enough. He knew since the first time I cam to this shop.

Hmmm. Not sure how I feel but it looks like I am one of the few foreign exemptions.
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so, foreign people look Japanese enough and speak Japanese well is accepted, period.
 
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