Looking for a girlfriend in SD or pater better than dating app?

TendouSoichi

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i want to ask for advice from everyone in the community,but first i want to thank you for the information about SD and paters(haven`t try it yet as i don`t have unlimited budget to spend on the monthly membership as it`s super expensive of 10k a month)

i have been only logging in on these dating app while looking out for the girl in omiai,pairs,tapple and with.
from these four i see that i have more luck on pairs and the girl is also not bad,but i don`t know about SD and paters on how to find legit girl that want a serious relationship,i see some advice in older post that you can try by 1お茶,4大人 means after 4 date straight to hotel yes?
i haven`t try and do some experience myself on paters or SD cause it`s pretty shit if i run out of luck as i`m not good at being lucky.

can someone that succes on getting a girls to become his girlfriend share their experience and give me their advice on how to get a girl,I`m prepared to do a long run as i have time and i`m fine with having japanese conversation as i have confidence of being near N1 level.
my charateristic is i`m 185Cm,half chines but my nationality is not china,pretty serious type and don`t have many knowledge and experience on dating with a girl(this is for real and i really struggle with this and i feel ashamed of this also compared to other people).

i have some vietnam girl in my workplace and i managed to ask her to go out with me 1 time but after that she refuse my offer to go out again and i have feeling that she share information thtough other vietnam girls in my workplace cause there is like at least 20 vietnam girl in my workplace,did i mess up on this?

sorry about many question but please share some of your knowledge and experience to this guy that never experience any of this
 
i have some vietnam girl in my workplace and i managed to ask her to go out with me 1 time but after that she refuse my offer to go out again and i have feeling that she share information thtough other vietnam girls in my workplace cause there is like at least 20 vietnam girl in my workplace,did i mess up on this?
1) Don't date where you work.

2) Yes, the Vietnamese women at your workplace will have a gossip mill.
 
If 10k/month is expensive to you, you're not going to find true love on
Normal dating app is 3k a month that i can accept find a dud,but if it's 10k a month and percentage is 50% finding a dud is pretty hard for me.

Except if in one month you can exchange line then it's more benefit rather than long run on dating app
 
1) Don't date where you work.

2) Yes, the Vietnamese women at your workplace will have a gossip mill.
Yeah it's really hard on vietnamese especially their japanese is still shit even after working for almost 3 years

Do you have any advice on which is better and have more high percentage on finding girlfriend from dating app or paters/SD?
 
Normal dating app is 3k a month that i can accept find a dud,but if it's 10k a month and percentage is 50% finding a dud is pretty hard for me.

Except if in one month you can exchange line then it's more benefit rather than long run on dating app
What I'm saying is girls on those sites are almost universally looking for financial support. 10k is nothing compared to the money they expect to become your 'girlfriend'. So it's better to stick to regular dating apps if you want a traditional relationship.
 
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Do you have any advice on which is better and have more high percentage on finding girlfriend from dating app or paters/SD?
Paters/SD are not for finding girlfriends, they are for finding paid sexual partners.

You really need to take a step back, and take a long hard look at yourself.
 
I juat want to clarify,if you want to find a girl with pretty face and the body of model then you go paters or SD?(the same like high quality soapland)
 
what is your budget to find girlfriend anyway?

according to my friend, 50k a month is bare minimum
Damn that is pretty high and unexpected,i think it's around 30k a month

I think i can barely manage that a month hahaha,but let's assume i jave that kind of budget where do go look aside from dating app and deai cafe?
 
Damn that is pretty high and unexpected,i think it's around 30k a month

I think i can barely manage that a month hahaha,but let's assume i jave that kind of budget where do go look aside from dating app and deai cafe?

30k a month? I mean that could work if you meet her just once a month...lol

Even if you have a "normal" girlfriend who you met via a regular dating app you will easily spend this amount of money on dinners and activities...you seem to be a bit out of touch with reality
 
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30k a month? I mean that could work if you meet her just once a month...lol

Even if you have a regular girlfriend who you met on a regular dating app you will easily spend this amount of money on dinners and activities...you seem to be a bit out of touch with reality
Sorry but i never have any experienced with dating so i only have vagues guess of the range of spending especially in japan.

But let's continue if one need to spend at least 50k a month then where or what to do to get a girlfriend?
 
Where do you work? I've had fantastic luck with VN girls :p
 
So you could find a girlfriend on the sugar sites. But your gonna be spending way more than 10k a date. Most of those girls as previously mentioned are there for financial benefits. If you can't afford to spoil them they will have zero interest in you as relationship partner. Because there are hundreds of cheap guys like you they can meet outside of sugaring if they just want to date. I have had quite a few offer to be my gf. After a few dates but I am spending significantly more than 10k on a date.
 
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So you could find a girlfriend on the sugar sites. But your gonna be spending way more than 10k a date. Most of those girls as previously mentioned are there for financial benefits. If you can't afford to spoil them they will have zero interest in you as relationship partner. Because there are hundreds of cheap guys like you they can meet outside of sugaring if they just want to date. I have had quite a few offer to be my gf. After a few dates but I am spending significantly more than 10k on a date.
I want to ask is the girl on sugar site that have pretty face demand are high like more than 50k?,or the girl with meidiocre face also demand the same price?

Well if the girl is reall high spec on the face and style then i understand it will be pricey,just i dom't know how to set up the date and what to say to a girl.

Even o a soapland and delihealth i only got a hand hob tops and no BJ and all in,and i don't know the reason 🥲
 
Even o a soapland and delihealth i only got a hand hob tops and no BJ and all in,and i don't know the reason 🥲
oh shit. this is definitely something you need to solve immediately.

if that part is not dirty, usually they skip BJ if they see you have phimosis.
 
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So you could find a girlfriend on the sugar sites. But your gonna be spending way more than 10k a date.

I mean you can have a non-paid girl and dating her in Tokyo will cost you way more than 10k a date.
 
I mean you can have a non-paid girl and dating her in Tokyo will cost you way more than 10k a date.
I know about the rental grielfriend one,just thinking it's not worth the money

I'm thinking on doing a long run and now know the minimum budget,and if the girl is worth 50k then i don't have any problem on spend it

As long as the girl is worth the money then i will respect that with giving effort on date and not being cheapskate
 
oh shit. this is definitely something you need to solve immediately.

if that part is not dirty, usually they skip BJ if they see you have phimosis.
I don't have phimosis but i have meet this on most chinese massage parlour and on soapland twice

But usually they let me do it raw,just i can't cum because they don't want to be touched that make me don't know what to do about it
 
I want to ask is the girl on sugar site that have pretty face demand are high like more than 50k?,or the girl with meidiocre face also demand the same price?

Well if the girl is reall high spec on the face and style then i understand it will be pricey,just i dom't know how to set up the date and what to say to a girl.

Even o a soapland and delihealth i only got a hand hob tops and no BJ and all in,and i don't know the reason 🥲
I know one asking for up to 150,000 per date. hahaha She doesn't look that value to my eyes.
 
Kaoru at Y-shirts
Rio in Shinichi
There is y-shirts in osaka?
I only go to shinchi but haven't done it with the girl there cuz only 30 minute for more than 20k so i usually go to tsumaten

And i don't hear any good review here for tobita,only matsushima have some good review
 
There is y-shirts in osaka?
I only go to shinchi but haven't done it with the girl there cuz only 30 minute for more than 20k so i usually go to tsumaten

And i don't hear any good review here for tobita,only matsushima have some good review
There is an user here that swears by Tobita, he likes to eat hamburgers and have fun with girls there, and everything is documented, he might (or not, who knows😉) have the record!🤭🎉
 
I know one asking for up to 150,000 per date. hahaha She doesn't look that value to my eyes.
I can't afford to spend one date for a girl with that price,i can't even think does girl really only want to on date with minum budget of 30k for 1 dinner and have no planning to have a long term relationship let even a planning to marriage