Looking for a girlfriend in SD or pater better than dating app?

I can't afford to spend one date for a girl with that price,i can't even think does girl really only want to on date with minum budget of 30k for 1 dinner and have no planning to have a long term relationship let even a planning to marriage
If you are paying girls for dates, they most likely won't have any interest in doing anything more than just taking your money. You'd have a better chance at repeating the first 50 digits of pie before anything.
 
even a planning to marriage

If you cannot spend what the girl asks for a date then you definitely cannot afford marriage with her.

As often renting is way cheaper than buying so I would recommend sticking to p4p and forgetting that marriage thing altogether.
 
dude... you need to step back a bit and take a hard look at everything you wrote in this thread.
 
can someone that succes on getting a girls to become his girlfriend share their experience and give me their advice on how to get a girl,I`m prepared to do a long run as i have time and i`m fine with having japanese conversation as i have confidence of being near N1 level.
my charateristic is i`m 185Cm,half chines but my nationality is not china,pretty serious type and don`t have many knowledge and experience on dating with a girl(this is for real and i really struggle with this and i feel ashamed of this also compared to other people).
My dude, if your entire identity is just "I'm tall asf", you'll need a boatload of cash to cover up for the social awkwardness and inexperience you've been kindly sharing with us. And sicne you don't seem to have that big of a budget, I suggest working on yourself first

I know about the rental grielfriend one,just thinking it's not worth the money

I'm thinking on doing a long run and now know the minimum budget,and if the girl is worth 50k then i don't have any problem on spend it

As long as the girl is worth the money then i will respect that with giving effort on date and not being cheapskate
This is also not a healthy mindset to go into dating, and ultimately, setting up a long-term relationship with marriage as the end goal. You're setting yourself up to be a free ATM for a future stay-at-home wife. Proceed if you're fine with that.
 
Ok... so we've established what you want.

But what do you bring to the table? like what does the girl get besides a cheap date?
If you want high class high rewards, then you should expect to be able to dish out high class or high rewards also. You can be poor if you're dashingly charming or handsome... but otherwise expect to dole out cash on SB dating sites. And cost of date does not factor into compensation so if you spend 20,000 on a date then expect to shell out another 30,000 and that's your 50k right there.

or stick to non p4p dating means to find a real girlfriend. or do p4p while you look and work on your charm in the meantime.
 
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My dude, if your entire identity is just "I'm tall asf", you'll need a boatload of cash to cover up for the social awkwardness and inexperience you've been kindly sharing with us. And sicne you don't seem to have that big of a budget, I suggest working on yourself first


This is also not a healthy mindset to go into dating, and ultimately, setting up a long-term relationship with marriage as the end goal. You're setting yourself up to be a free ATM for a future stay-at-home wife. Proceed if you're fine with that.
Thank you for sharing that,been thinking of fixing my face and appearance better first and also me being awkward and reserved i will try fixing this

Can i ask an advice on dating or japanese girl what kind of man do they prefer?
Like they prefer more of extrovert and aggresive type of guy or something like that?
 
Ok... so we've established what you want.

But what do you bring to the table? like what does the girl get besides a cheap date?
If you want high class high rewards, then you should expect to be able to dish out high class or high rewards also. You can be poor if you're dashingly charming or handsome... but otherwise expect to dole out cash on SB dating sites. And cost of date does not factor into compensation so if you spend 20,000 on a date then expect to shell out another 30,000 and that's your 50k right there.

or stick to non p4p dating means to find a real girlfriend. or do p4p while you look and work on your charm in the meantime.
I know charm and handsome range is big but i dom't know is really being american or european type of face being nore popular rather than korean or chinese type?

My face rather close to chinese or korean,but i don't know which japanese girl prefer or the preference differ from each girl?
 
If you are paying girls for dates, they most likely won't have any interest in doing anything more than just taking your money. You'd have a better chance at repeating the first 50 digits of pie before anything.
I don't know about the 50 digit pie,but will try looking it

I know that in now time you have no dating or girls experience is a fatal fault,i deeply regret it now cause i realized it too late and i have some long family issue that make me being locked mostly inside house

Like old chinese parents customary
 
dude... you need to step back a bit and take a hard look at everything you wrote in this thread.
Yeah will try to look again all the input i got from here,sometime i need this kind of reminder and some advice so i can really know nor vaguely but have a solid understand of thing
 
If you are paying girls for dates, they most likely won't have any interest in doing anything more than just taking your money.
Think this is more "your mileage may vary" versus a hard rule. If you're someone who dates high-quality civilians, it follows that girls who you see as SBs might want a more serious relationship with you, given time
 
Yeah, your mileage may vary. But in your scenario, you're driving a clapped out 1970s Ford van with a few blown rings and a sticky carb.
 
Just don't…
Your offers are just gonna piss the girls on there off. Nobody is looking for a broke partner on those sites like the other people have said.

If you do want a date, Osaka is cheaper than Kyoto and you can probably get social time at 5000 yen and private time at 15.000 yen or so but don't expect super model girls from this. Even in Osaka area, girls who are actual lookers are gonna be charging more, and they are not that easy to come by either way.
 
Think this is more "your mileage may vary" versus a hard rule. If you're someone who dates high-quality civilians, it follows that girls who you see as SBs might want a more serious relationship with you, given time
As i have not any experience on dating previously so i don't know how to decide and to know,but getting this kind of advice is really helpful for reference and to knowing

Thank you very much bro for your response,i really apreciate it
 
Just don't…
Your offers are just gonna piss the girls on there off. Nobody is looking for a broke partner on those sites like the other people have said.

If you do want a date, Osaka is cheaper than Kyoto and you can probably get social time at 5000 yen and private time at 15.000 yen or so but don't expect super model girls from this. Even in Osaka area, girls who are actual lookers are gonna be charging more, and they are not that easy to come by either way.
Can i ask a question alice?,does deai cafe work for people looking for a long term date or mostly only for a quickie at hotel?

I have seen kirari in osaka and have been wanting to go but i need to save some money first in planning to date a girl in the future
 
i want to ask for advice from everyone in the community,but first i want to thank you for the information about SD and paters(haven`t try it yet as i don`t have unlimited budget to spend on the monthly membership as it`s super expensive of 10k a month)

i have been only logging in on these dating app while looking out for the girl in omiai,pairs,tapple and with.
from these four i see that i have more luck on pairs and the girl is also not bad,but i don`t know about SD and paters on how to find legit girl that want a serious relationship,i see some advice in older post that you can try by 1お茶,4大人 means after 4 date straight to hotel yes?
i haven`t try and do some experience myself on paters or SD cause it`s pretty shit if i run out of luck as i`m not good at being lucky.

can someone that succes on getting a girls to become his girlfriend share their experience and give me their advice on how to get a girl,I`m prepared to do a long run as i have time and i`m fine with having japanese conversation as i have confidence of being near N1 level.
my charateristic is i`m 185Cm,half chines but my nationality is not china,pretty serious type and don`t have many knowledge and experience on dating with a girl(this is for real and i really struggle with this and i feel ashamed of this also compared to other people).

i have some vietnam girl in my workplace and i managed to ask her to go out with me 1 time but after that she refuse my offer to go out again and i have feeling that she share information thtough other vietnam girls in my workplace cause there is like at least 20 vietnam girl in my workplace,did i mess up on this?

sorry about many question but please share some of your knowledge and experience to this guy that never experience any of this
Ask yourself what you truly want: a girlfriend, a friend with benefits, or paying to spend time with a girl who likes the money you're offering (and maybe likes you too, if you're lucky). These are three completely different paths.

Next, look at your budget. If there's a sweet spot where your desires and finances align, consider yourself lucky.

If you're aiming for the girlfriend option, focus on sharpening your Japanese language and seduction skills—those are your strongest assets in this game. If you go for the friend with benefits option, Japanese language skills shall be enough. If you select the remaining one, then focus on making money.
 
I know one asking for up to 150,000 per date. hahaha She doesn't look that value to my eyes.
That's definitely a big problem! The fact is, you don't seem valuable enough in her eyes either for her to waive the 150,000 yen.
Clear sign it's a no-go deal!
 
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Why not try your luck with Chinese girls? Go to Juso and look for Triad Papa. Very hot college aged Chinese girls there. Just gonna cost you like ¥15,000 for 90 minutes of fucking. Since you are Chinese, Triad Papa gives discount to his fellow Chinese and Chinese speakers. My Chinese-American friend even got the second girl free for a threesome. Maybe if you are lucky, one of them agrees to be your girlfriend. Good Luck. 😉
 
Yeah, your mileage may vary. But in your scenario, you're driving a clapped out 1970s Ford van with a few blown rings and a sticky carb.

I don't what it means but can i quote it hahaha 🤣
It means "your mileage in that scenario will not be good" - as in, what he suggested is technically possible, but is very unlikely to happen.

A 1970s Ford van with a v8 engine would typically get 6-9 mpg (miles per gallon, around 3-4 km/l) if well maintained. With a few blown piston rings and a sticky carburetor, you'd be lucky to get 3-4 mpg (around 1-2 km/l). For comparison, a modern Ford Transit will get 15-22 mpg or 6.4-9.4 km/l. So to drive from Tokyo to Nagoya and back with the old van would take around 300 litres of gasoline (more than three tanks of gas), vs. the modern van using about 90 litres (less than one tank).
 
Ask yourself what you truly want: a girlfriend, a friend with benefits, or paying to spend time with a girl who likes the money you're offering (and maybe likes you too, if you're lucky). These are three completely different paths.

Next, look at your budget. If there's a sweet spot where your desires and finances align, consider yourself lucky.

If you're aiming for the girlfriend option, focus on sharpening your Japanese language and seduction skills—those are your strongest assets in this game. If you go for the friend with benefits option, Japanese language skills shall be enough. If you select the remaining one, then focus on making money.
Thank you for your advice,i've never try to seduce a girl before so i really need to polish my skill on this

I'm a bit awkward also,that's why i'm still fixing this too and i'm on process of fixing my appearence(i have some acne scar when i was little but after i fix this and got a little image change i'm confident that i'm a good looking man for chinese)

I ought to have a certain saving before going on a date with japanese girl,as you said i need to prepare some thing first

Thank you very much for your input as it's important for me

Why not try your luck with Chinese girls? Go to Juso and look for Triad Papa. Very hot college aged Chinese girls there. Just gonna cost you like ¥15,000 for 90 minutes of fucking. Since you are Chinese, Triad Papa gives discount to his fellow Chinese and Chinese speakers. My Chinese-American friend even got the second girl free for a threesome. Maybe if you are lucky, one of them agrees to be your girlfriend. Good Luck. 😉
I hear a good thing,i can speak a little chinese but not a good one hahaha

I will try my luck also,been wanting to go to juso also cuz there are recommendation for the papa there and i already do check up the place myself so i already know it

Thank you for giving me that info,it's really valuable and can be a great asset and help me in the future.

Thank you
 
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Is Osaka known for having a thin talent pool of civilians too?
Osaka is not known for their lookers, and the girls who do look good often have an attitude. I wouldn't be surprised if they expect to get showered with brand gifts or something.

Stereotypes, of course.