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Service and/or Provider's Name:
Manami

Date of Encounter:
November 2018

Contact Method:
Email through her website tokyomeltykiss.com

Appointment Length & Costs:
90 minutes - ¥50,000

Type/Location:
Regular hotel

Language Notes:
English

Details of the Encounter:
Any date is the sum of two people . So all reviews are not only a review of the escort but of the reviewer as well . I will try here to give an honest and detailed review mentioning my mistakes and what I encountered .It is up to you to come up with your own conclusions . Just keep an open mind .


Communication wise : it was easy and quick to set the date with Manami . She is professional and quick without being cold or giving much of herself during the exchanges. It is worth noting that she did not ask about any personal details in the exchanges.

Looks-wise: A normal outfit that looks really casual and one of the lingeries she wore on her Twitter account underneath . If you saw her in the street , She won’t draw your attention which I think is the required. And here is my first mistake : if you want your escort to wear something sexy , tell her that in clear way as depending on her to “surprise” you will not probably end in earnest.

It goes without saying that she has a smoking natural body . I think hers is not a very common among Japanese women : beautiful face with big eyes , short stature , curvy at the right places : in short , an eye candy .


Attitude wise :She arrived exactly on time . And here it comes : ready player one ? . She began directly with a long passionate kiss , it may appeal to some or many customers but to me it felt like a script for which the play button was pushed .Manami oozes confidence and she knows exactly what to do and how to do it. She has a very good shower game , which maybe the best among the ones I met so far . Second mistake : I needed to be more aggressive but I was too worried about hurting her or being rude . Be respectful but don’t let that get in the way of enjoying your time as long as you don’t cross the red line of hurting your date.

I told her that I am a beginner after the kissing and the shower . After it , some pretty good kissing happened followed by some slightly above average BJ . Afterwards come the worst part of my experience: she was very comfortable to be on the receiving end for nearly the rest of the date . When I asked her to extend , she just put my cock in her and everything was finished very fast . Then she got a fast shower and was on her way out. And here comes my third and biggest mistake : through a mixture of stubborness , inexperience and caring too much about her pleasure than mine , I focused too much on her and wanted her to cum before I can enjoy myself and thought I can extend though this was not warranted at all .

Was it a dream for me ? : No
Was it a nightmare for me ? : No
Did I feel she was my GF? : No.
Did I feel good after she left ? : Absolutely not.


I am pretty sure she can be an absolute beast in bed but maybe only with someone who is experienced enough and knows what he is doing exactly . For beginners : I am afraid my experience may not be very encouraging , but it is worth mentioning that everyone is different and what you don’t like may be the absolute pleasure of someone else and it is possible I caught her on a bad day .

In the end I think any one of us - not only escorts - would welcome an easy day at office.

Review Independence: Was this review requested by the provider?:
No, this review was written without a request.

Final Thoughts:
Recommended, Will not Repeat.

Closing Comments:
Recommended if you are experienced enough .

Please take this as a different view of the P4P sphere not as a criticism to the escort .
 
Service and/or Provider's Name:
Manami

Date of Encounter:
November 2018

Contact Method:
Email through her website tokyomeltykiss.com

Appointment Length & Costs:
90 minutes - ¥50,000

Type/Location:
Regular hotel

Language Notes:
English

Details of the Encounter:
Any date is the sum of two people . So all reviews are not only a review of the escort but of the reviewer as well . I will try here to give an honest and detailed review mentioning my mistakes and what I encountered .It is up to you to come up with your own conclusions . Just keep an open mind .


Communication wise : it was easy and quick to set the date with Manami . She is professional and quick without being cold or giving much of herself during the exchanges. It is worth noting that she did not ask about any personal details in the exchanges.

Looks-wise: A normal outfit that looks really casual and one of the lingeries she wore on her Twitter account underneath . If you saw her in the street , She won’t draw your attention which I think is the required. And here is my first mistake : if you want your escort to wear something sexy , tell her that in clear way as depending on her to “surprise” you will not probably end in earnest.

It goes without saying that she has a smoking natural body . I think hers is not a very common among Japanese women : beautiful face with big eyes , short stature , curvy at the right places : in short , an eye candy .


Attitude wise :She arrived exactly on time . And here it comes : ready player one ? . She began directly with a long passionate kiss , it may appeal to some or many customers but to me it felt like a script for which the play button was pushed .Manami oozes confidence and she knows exactly what to do and how to do it. She has a very good shower game , which maybe the best among the ones I met so far . Second mistake : I needed to be more aggressive but I was too worried about hurting her or being rude . Be respectful but don’t let that get in the way of enjoying your time as long as you don’t cross the red line of hurting your date.

I told her that I am a beginner after the kissing and the shower . After it , some pretty good kissing happened followed by some slightly above average BJ . Afterwards come the worst part of my experience: she was very comfortable to be on the receiving end for nearly the rest of the date . When I asked her to extend , she just put my cock in her and everything was finished very fast . Then she got a fast shower and was on her way out. And here comes my third and biggest mistake : through a mixture of stubborness , inexperience and caring too much about her pleasure than mine , I focused too much on her and wanted her to cum before I can enjoy myself and thought I can extend though this was not warranted at all .

Was it a dream for me ? : No
Was it a nightmare for me ? : No
Did I feel she was my GF? : No.
Did I feel good after she left ? : Absolutely not.


I am pretty sure she can be an absolute beast in bed but maybe only with someone who is experienced enough and knows what he is doing exactly . For beginners : I am afraid my experience may not be very encouraging , but it is worth mentioning that everyone is different and what you don’t like may be the absolute pleasure of someone else and it is possible I caught her on a bad day .

In the end I think any one of us - not only escorts - would welcome an easy day at office.

Review Independence: Was this review requested by the provider?:
No, this review was written without a request.

Final Thoughts:
Recommended, Will not Repeat.

Closing Comments:
Recommended if you are experienced enough .

Please take this as a different view of the P4P sphere not as a criticism to the escort .
Good and balanced review , can’t be 100% perfect all the time and we need more feedback like yours. Cannot comment about Manami but generally speaking the reason why I stopped meeting escorts is that in the end I often felt more frustration than satisfaction too (but totally understand why it could be different for other men)
 
Any date is the sum of two people . So all reviews are not only a review of the escort but of the reviewer as well . I will try here to give an honest and detailed review mentioning my mistakes and what I encountered .It is up to you to come up with your own conclusions

For beginners : I am afraid my experience may not be very encouraging , but it is worth mentioning that everyone is different and what you don’t like may be the absolute pleasure of someone else and it is possible I caught her on a bad day .

In the end I think any one of us - not only escorts - would welcome an easy day at office.
Please take this as a different view of the P4P sphere not as a criticism to the escort .


In a romantic affair, marriage or P4P, the one true thing is that your mileage may vary.
 
I can very much relate to this in a way. I had my first visit to Japan in November, and my first Japanese P4P experience with a girl from [Redacted]. I've been absolutely smitten with the memory of her since getting home, but upon finding out that she's no longer with [Redacted] and knowing I'll likely never get another date with her no matter when I make it back to Tokyo, I look back with regrets of what I did wrong (poor communication/not really knowing what I like and being fairly passive).

No point in reviewing because like I said the girl is no longer there. I guess I'm lucky in that she was at least pretty attentive and willing to (almost certainly fake an) orgasm after a few minutes of effort on my part.
 
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Afterwards come the worst part of my experience: she was very comfortable to be on the receiving end for nearly the rest of the date . When I asked her to extend , she just put my cock in her and everything was finished very fast . Then she got a fast shower and was on her way out. And here comes my third and biggest mistake : through a mixture of stubborness , inexperience and caring too much about her pleasure than mine , I focused too much on her and wanted her to cum before I can enjoy myself and thought I can extend though this was not warranted at all .

Was it a dream for me ? : No

i sometimes focus too much on the girl too ... but it is where i get my pleasure/satisfaction ... even if i don't cum in the end ... i'm weird i know ...

if you focus on the girl but don't get satisfaction from it then you might need to cut some of it.

pleasuring someone ... it's an art form ... some will like it ... some will say your technique is garbage. accept that.

i was also a beginner when i first met an escort ... everything *went* well, she didn't complain about anything ... but when i repeated with her ... she admitted i hurt her breasts/nipples on our first meeting! too majime to complain to me. sometimes they're just trying to be (too) nice by keeping their mouth shut even if something is amiss/hurting. i think it'll leave an ever bad taste in the client's mouth is he was told off by his date.

extensions can be troublesome ... maybe there is another client afterwards so an extension is impossible ... or it's personal
 
I think your first sentence is insightful. Guys who have been doing p4p for a while know that once in a while, you just don't click, or don't feel good, especially if you're someone who wants a connection, not just a quickie with a stranger. Nothing wrong with that, I prefer GFE too, but you have to keep in mind that it's a blind date, and the chemistry just might not be there.
I think the best thing to do is brush yourself off, take a bit of a break and then when/if you feel like it, go again with different expectations and with someone else.
In any case, thanks for the review!
 
All your complaints basically come down to you not making it clear to Manami what you wanted.

Perhaps you need to be reminded that you booked a session with an escort, not a psychic.
 
When you're meeting a pro, you should surrender the joy, as you are very inexperienced.
She knows what would be the best. You tried to compromise the play, in which due to being inexperienced, you couldn't figure out the way.

She'll tell you, if you were going too rough.

You thought too much during the play.

That's why you couldn't enjoy, as much as you wanted.
 
Thank you for the review and I deeply apologize that I could not meet your expectations.

I clearly remember our date still as I really thought we had more time when I heard the alarm. That was my mistake. The rest had to be done rather quickly as I had another appointment to head to; I thought I told you so but I am sorry if I didn’t make it clear enough. Again, I am sorry for my wrong sense of time.

Extension is not always available. If you may want to extend the time, I would suggest you to mention so when you book.

Talking about my outfit and lingeries, I was wearing a thin sweater with some pearls on it, knee length pencil skirt and heels. I didn’t know that’s “really casual” in your dictionary.
I don’t remember what kind of lingeries I was wearing on that day but you mentioned I was wearing one of these pair you see on my twitter. Are you saying these lingeries on my tweet are really casual? :whistle: They are not a 10 dollar clearance stuff from Walmart but either Salute or AP;)

Anyway, I am sorry that I didn’t dress well enough to achieve your expectation. But if you want your companion to show up in a night dress, certain color of stockings with garter belt and Louboutin high heels, perhaps it is better to ask them in advance. People ask me to wear stockings and whatsoever when they try to book regardless I will take their request or not.

Overall, if you have any specific request, I strongly recommend to mention them when you contact them. You cannot expect them that you have never met and they know nothing about you to magically read what you expect from a date without any word.

Again, I am so sorry for not being able to meet your expectation. I really hope that you find a real girlfriend that you can connect 100% with. You are a sweet young gentleman.
 
Thank you for the review and I deeply apologize that I could not meet your expectations.

I clearly remember our date still as I really thought we had more time when I heard the alarm. That was my mistake. The rest had to be done rather quickly as I had another appointment to head to; I thought I told you so but I am sorry if I didn’t make it clear enough. Again, I am sorry for my wrong sense of time.

Extension is not always available. If you may want to extend the time, I would suggest you to mention so when you book.

Talking about my outfit and lingeries, I was wearing a thin sweater with some pearls on it, knee length pencil skirt and heels. I didn’t know that’s “really casual” in your dictionary.
I don’t remember what kind of lingeries I was wearing on that day but you mentioned I was wearing one of these pair you see on my twitter. Are you saying these lingeries on my tweet are really casual? :whistle: They are not a 10 dollar clearance stuff from Walmart but either Salute or AP;)

Anyway, I am sorry that I didn’t dress well enough to achieve your expectation. But if you want your companion to show up in a night dress, certain color of stockings with garter belt and Louboutin high heels, perhaps it is better to ask them in advance. People ask me to wear stockings and whatsoever when they try to book regardless I will take their request or not.

Overall, if you have any specific request, I strongly recommend to mention them when you contact them. You cannot expect them that you have never met and they know nothing about you to magically read what you expect from a date without any word.

Again, I am so sorry for not being able to meet your expectation. I really hope that you find a real girlfriend that you can connect 100% with. You are a sweet young gentleman.

Thank you very much for your response . I really appreciate it .

By casual , I was describing the external look not the lingerie itself . The lingerie looked very beautiful on you indeed . I don’t think you recall your outfit well : there were no pearls and no heels . but it is okay . By casual , I meant normal looking . And I only mentioned that to tell the fellas here to ask clearly if they want something special before the date . I don’t hold anything against you regarding the outfit . It was clearly my mistake not yours.

There is no doubt that you are a truly special and extremely good looking woman.

I wished you put my obviously limited experience into your consideration . I really would have used some help and for a time or two I asked you if there is something you wanted me to do , but you said it is okay .

It is not GFE at all to stay passive for the majority of the time . I knew that you felt that was not right and actually you communicated that to me AFTER the date . But it was all but done then.

I was really looking forward into meeting you . But this is the world , young inexperienced people are usually going to get the shorter end of the stick .

In the end , I wish you a happy new year .
 
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But this is the world , young inexperienced people are usually going to get the shorter end of the stick .

Did you do some research into seeing escorts? Learn what do, or not do?

I am bemused that you are touting your inexperience as something to bemoan; and you seem to want to direct your frustrations on the provider/escort.

Its a bit like some novice driving a sports car and complaining about its not like your normal sedan which you drive to work everyday.

Take some responsibility. Learn from the experience and see how you can improve.

My first experience with an escort was not good. A bit like your experience in a way. What did I do? Complain, no? I sat back, reflected. Thought about what I may have done wrong. Evaluated. And the next time I saw an escort - actually two at the same time. I used what I learned to have a better time.

Having sex is a skill. Having sex with escorts is also a skill. I've had some encounters with escorts that didn't go smoothly; I try and make the best of the situation. I learn and the next time the sex can be out of this world.

It is rare for two random strangers to meet, click, and hit it off. This is not Hollywood. We don't get to meet "Pretty Woman"/ Julia Roberts the first time.

Like all experiences, driving, mountain climbing, swimming, diving, having sex, it can only get better if you improve your skill at it. And you can only do that if you reflect on yourself, your actions, your thinking and how you can improve.

In Minami's case, she performed her duties admirably.

I might sound too harsh on you but when I read "She began directly with a long passionate kiss , it may appeal to some or many customers but to me it felt like a script for which the play button was pushed ." ?????

What exactly did you expect?

What did you want?

Your title perhaps should read - not "No country for young men" - it should read, "I am a novice, and confused over what I want and how to get it".
 
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Did you do some research into seeing escorts? Learn what do, or not do?

I am bemused that you are touting your inexperience as something to bemoan; and you seem to want to direct your frustrations on the provider/escort.

Its a bit like some novice driving a sports car and complaining about its not like your normal sedan which you drive to work everyday.

Take some responsibility. Learn from the experience and see how you can improve.

My first experience with an escort was not good. A bit like your experience in a way. What did I do? Complain, no? I sat back, reflected. Thought about what I may have done wrong. Evaluated. And the next time I saw an escort - actually two at the same time. I used what I learned to have a better time.

Having sex is a skill. Having sex with escorts is also a skill. I've had some encounters with escorts that didn't go smoothly; I try and make the best of the situation. I learn and the next time the sex can be out of this world.

It is rare for two random strangers to meet, click, and hit it off. This is not Hollywood. We don't get to meet "Pretty Woman"/ Julia Roberts the first time.

Like all experiences, driving, mountain climbing, swimming, diving, having sex, it can only get better if you improve your skill at it. And you can only do that if you reflect on yourself, your actions, your thinking and how you can improve.

In Minami's case, she performed her duties admirably.

I might sound too harsh on you but when I read "She began directly with a long passionate kiss , it may appeal to some or many customers but to me it felt like a script for which the play button was pushed ." ?????

What exactly did you expect?

What did you want?

Your title perhaps should read - not "No country for young men" - it should read, "I am a novice, and confused over what I want and how to get it".

Man , you gotta read before you reply .

I would really like to see you if the escort spent the majority of the time in a very passive way to the extent she felt it after the date is finished.

Actually it is laughable that you judge the date while you are sitting on your couch . Two people were there buddy , one of them did not feel good and the other part felt it .

I did expect to have a date . A date that does not involve the other part sitting on her back for the vast majority of time . I did expect the well paid professional to be - well - just that.

If it did not just click or whatsoever , I would have appreciated the effort . But that was not just there . Like the effort you did not spend to read .
 
Afterwards come the worst part of my experience: she was very comfortable to be on the receiving end for nearly the rest of the date . When I asked her to extend , she just put my cock in her and everything was finished very fast . Then she got a fast shower and was on her way out. And here comes my third and biggest mistake : through a mixture of stubborness , inexperience and caring too much about her pleasure than mine , I focused too much on her and wanted her to cum before I can enjoy myself and thought I can extend though this was not warranted at all .

I dunno man. I read that and gotta wonder.

You were focused on making her cum and somehow that's her fault? C'mon man.

When you book an escort, or when you make an appointment with any professional - lawyer, dentist, plumber, you are allocated a set time. If you need to extend, they might not be able to because they have prior commitments.

You have to also understand your own body and psyche clock. When I first started seeing escorts, I was frustrated because I felt the one hour time was too short. So I started doing two hour slots, even three. And it still wasn't all that great because I wasn't used to doing it with a condom. It took awhile before I got the hang of it. I also realized what I wanted. A good GFE. You can only get a good GFE if you can find a girl whom you can click with. I sought after an escort who went to a University near my home. Someone who had the same cultural experiences as I did. Someone who spoke the same language and dialect as I did. Someone who was more than likely to have seen the same movies as I did.

In the end, you really need to know what you want.
 
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I dunno man. I read that and gotta wonder.

You were focused on making her cum and somehow that's her fault? C'mon man.

When you book an escort, or when you make an appointment with any professional - lawyer, dentist, plumber, you are allocated a set time. If you need to extend, they might not be able to because they have prior commitments.

Man , I beg you : please read what I wrote.

I only mentioned the extension part as a mistake I did . And believe me , I don’t feel good about it .

I only focused on her to that extent because that was an advice mentioned by both the fellas here and some of the indies was to take the escort into consideration and not to focus only on myself . And as I mentioned , I told her am a beginner and I asked her during the date if there is something I shall do as she is the experienced party here.

I made mistakes and wrote about them clearly , I think that shows you I reflected upon the experience and thought about it for sometime.

But excuse me , if you see that it is natural from the escort side to stay for the vast majority in a passive way and maybe was thinking about something else to the extent she lost track of time .. I respectfully disagree .

I won’t go into your analogy of escorts and plumbers cause I still think it shall not be this way .
 
Man , I beg you : please read what I wrote.

I only mentioned the extension part as a mistake I did . And believe me , I don’t feel good about it .

I only focused on her to that extent because that was an advice mentioned by both the fellas here and some of the indies was to take the escort into consideration and not to focus only on myself . And as I mentioned , I told her am a beginner and I asked her during the date if there is something I shall do as she is the experienced party here.

I made mistakes and wrote about them clearly , I think that shows you I reflected upon the experience and thought about it for sometime.

But excuse me , if you see that it is natural from the escort side to stay for the vast majority in a passive way and maybe was thinking about something else to the extent she lost track of time .. I respectfully disagree .

I won’t go into your analogy of escorts and plumbers cause I still think it shall not be this way .

I have no desire to take sides, and these are highly subjective matters, but I tend to think that when an escort gets an « easy » client (newbie, pleaser, too polite , whatever is considered « easy »...) they tend to... well, take it easy. It’s human. Better to be bossy and tell frankly : I want this/that/in such position etc... dress like that before, I want you to have such attitude etc... certainly not romantic, not even GFE, but ultimately you do not book an escort to get a real GFE.
 
Man , I beg you : please read what I wrote.

We have.

As several of us have pointed out, your issues are pretty much entirely of your own making.

You did not clearly communicate what you wanted, and seemed to expect that Manami should somehow be able to intuit your needs and wants.

She even (very graciously) apologised that the session wasn't satisfactory for you, and you (very ungraciously) used it as an excuse to rip into her a little more.

Get it straight - it is impossible for anyone to divine what you want unless you clearly make it known. Simply saying that providers should take your inexperience into account means nothing - some beginners want to try taking charge and exploring, and some want to be taught what to do, and others want to be on the receptive end, and many other . There is no way for a lady to magically know what you want.
if you see that it is natural from the escort side to stay for the vast majority in a passive way
And you did not tell her you wanted her to take a more active role. That is entirely on you.

I won’t go into your analogy of escorts and plumbers cause I still think it shall not be this way .

He described it well enough. You are booking for a set amount of time. If there is another person booked after you, you may not be able to extend, whether you like it or not.

People have been patient trying to help you, but you're reacting like a petulant child and refusing to accept that the primary problems here have been your lack of communication and your overly high expectations.

At this stage, it honestly seems like you're more interested in stirring up unpleasantness than anything else.
 
Well. I'm actually a little pleased that @tad3239 pushed me to fast track his important review. (Besides the fact of him fucking up my holiday time....)

Get your last comments in; we'll wrap this one up soon because I can only see it going to shit if we leave it open.

Thanks.
 
We have.

As several of us have pointed out, your issues are pretty much entirely of your own making.

You did not clearly communicate what you wanted, and seemed to expect that Manami should somehow be able to intuit your needs and wants.

She even (very graciously) apologised that the session wasn't satisfactory for you, and you (very ungraciously) used it as an excuse to rip into her a little more.

Get it straight - it is impossible for anyone to divine what you want unless you clearly make it known. Simply saying that providers should take your inexperience into account means nothing - some beginners want to try taking charge and exploring, and some want to be taught what to do, and others want to be on the receptive end, and many other . There is no way for a lady to magically know what you want.

And you did not tell her you wanted her to take a more active role. That is entirely on you.



He described it well enough. You are booking for a set amount of time. If there is another person booked after you, you may not be able to extend, whether you like it or not.

People have been patient trying to help you, but you're reacting like a petulant child and refusing to accept that the primary problems here have been your lack of communication and your overly high expectations.

At this stage, it honestly seems like you're more interested in stirring up unpleasantness than anything else.

I respect your opinion , and respectfully disagree with it .

I understand that you have to tell the escort to be an escort . Kinda awesome but true . Dear escort , don’t stay the whole date on your back . Dear escort , would you please give me some attention . Dear escort , please keep track of time . Dear escort , when I tell you my experience is limited , please pay more attention to that .

Man , I don’t remember me judging your character with things like “petulant child” or what so ever . And believe me , it won’t be difficult at all to start picking up at you .

If you think what I described to happen was alright , then hurray , Good for you . I can see why are you arguing so enthusiasticly . But believe me , at the end I were not happy and she felt she did not treat me right .

So it is really funny that the escort is not feeling she was on her game . While people sitting on their couch believing “she did what she was supposed to do admirably” .
 
Thank you very much everyone for sharing your thoughts. I always learn something new.

The fact is I am asking for your hard earned (a lot of) money for it so I should try harder my best to provide the best time each time.

Thank you again guys for your support.
 
I understand that you have to tell the escort to be an escort . Kinda awesome but true . Dear escort , don’t stay the whole date on your back . Dear escort , would you please give me some attention . Dear escort , please keep track of time . Dear escort , when I tell you my experience is limited , please pay more attention to that .
Pardon there guy, but where are you from? I would not believe your first language is not English, is it?
 
@TAG Manager , I am really thankful that you let this review pass through.

About your holidays , am really sorry that it is not going as you expected . Apologies , Sir .

If I knew some action would ruin your holidays beforehand , I in all honesty, would not have done it . I hold no grudges against you , only thankfullness for looking over this place , which many people including myself have benefitted from.
 
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Man , I don’t remember me judging your character with things like “petulant child” or what so ever .

One reason for that would be he hasn't behaved like a butt hurt newbie.

But believe me , at the end I were not happy and she felt she did not treat me right .

I guess we are reading different posts as even as Manami-san was kind and professional enough to say she is sorry you didn't like the session nobody here thinks she did not treat you right.

The problem as I see it is you wanted to have a slow romantic trip in a steam engine but instead went and hired a Ferrari and couldn't handle it.

One thing I take away from your review is I would have most probably enjoyed myself immensely with her so thanks for writing it.
 
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