P4P in the Coronavirus Era

[User#7832]

I imagine I’m not the only TAG member who has been wondering what the “new normal” of P4P is going to look like. I’m not talking about the period 12-18 months from now when we (hopefully) have near universal vaccination against Covid 19 but rather about the period in the coming months when lock downs are lifted and things begin to reopen, but spread of Covid is still very much a risk. Here are some possible changes that come to mind, but I’d love to hear other people’s thoughts, including some of the providers.

Testing: I wouldn’t be surprised if providers add Covid 19 testing to their regular STD testing regimen. Both providers in shops and Indies. Perhaps providers may ask that customers show proof that they are Covid-free, along the lines of the “work passport” that Germany is contemplating, using antibody tests.

Providers Shifting to Virtual P4P Services: I’ve seen a number of articles that reference a huge jump in subscriptions to porn sites since March. I’ve also noted that many Indies have set up Fans Only accounts. I wonder whether they will also offer their regular customers private phone sex or even video encounters.

Emergence of Glory Holes at P4P Establishments: These have previously been a feature mainly of gay (MM) establishments. Might they be offered in hetero shops as a “Covid-safe” option?

These are just a few thoughts. Others?

 

[Danbo]

I don't know......except for the closed soaplands it didn't change much to be honest. Especially deliver health was business as usual, except that the shops always posted photos of the girl's temperatures at the beginning of the day.

Why should it change now after the social distancing measurements seem to be effective and the number of new infections is going down?

 

[Anna Summer]

Testing: I wouldn’t be surprised if providers add Covid 19 testing to their regular STD testing regimen. Both providers in shops and Indies. Perhaps providers may ask that customers show proof that they are Covid-free, along the lines of the “work passport” that Germany is contemplating, using antibody tests.

This is going to be extremely difficult because it’s not easy to just get tested for covid. Unless you live in South Korea where they have drive through stations and everyone who wants to can get tested (test is free if you are positive). So no idea how to get through with that....

 

[User#7832]

Good point Anna. Tests (both for infection and antibodies) are still not readily available in some countries and when they do become easier to get it may not be automatic that the clinics that provide STD testing will have Coronavirus tests as well.

So my question to you and other Indies. Will you be willing to resume offering the full range of P4P services without assurances that customers are Covid free?

 

[Simonka]

I’ve been shifting towards Onlyfans and online sex work because the antibody tests are currently not 100% accurate, and we don’t even know if we develop immunity when we catch covid. So I’m actually in the process of producing content before advertising it. Regarding online video chat, I’m not so sure.. Clients can record that and my face will be plastered on the internet for the foreseeable future..

In the past few months researchers have been collecting anecdotal evidence on Covid patients who are gravely ill, and the data points out that there is no pneumonia or ARDS.

Ever noticed the pulmonary oxidative distress in CT scans? It’s always bilateral. (Bilateral means both longs at the same time)

Covid is causing prolonged hypoxia by depriving the blood cells of oxygen. (By binding to the hemoglobin in our red blood cells) People are simply losing the O2 in their blood, which leads to organ failure and eventually death. Pneumonia is not the culprit. The iron ion that our hemoglobin has lost will fly freely in the bloodstream causing oxidative damage. Hence the bilateral CT scans.

Thus, ventilators not only are useless but they can actually cause damage and scarring. The solution is to simply wait until the patient’s immune system to pull through, and put them on O2 so that the little hemoglobin left in their body can bind to that oxygen.

This data suggests that covid is a lot more sinister than we have previously assumed, I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to do escorting in the near future.. But Hydroxychloroquine / Azithromicin may get us somewhere.

 

[Sudsy]

Covid is causing prolonged hypoxia by depriving the blood cells of oxygen. (By binding to the hemoglobin in our red blood cells) People are simply losing the O2 in their blood, which leads to organ failure and eventually death. Pneumonia is not the culprit. The iron ion that our hemoglobin has lost will fly freely in the bloodstream causing oxidative damage. Hence the bilateral CT scans.

That theory has been debunked, you'll be happy to know.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...unsupported-and-implausible-andrew-gaiziunas/

It's based entirely in in silico modeling, and contradicts clinical findings in actual patients, and was written by a guy with no medical background at all.

 

[Simonka]

That theory has been debunked, you'll be happy to know.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...unsupported-and-implausible-andrew-gaiziunas/

It's based entirely in in silico modeling, and contradicts clinical findings in actual patients, and was written by a guy with no medical background at all.

Great to know!
How about vitamin D deficiency and it’s correlation to covid? I would be happy to know if that one gets debunked! (Family has a long history of deficiency due to being Mediterranean)

 

[Frenchy]

I’ve been shifting towards Onlyfans and online sex work because the antibody tests are currently not 100% accurate, and we don’t even know if we develop immunity when we catch covid. So I’m actually in the process of producing content before advertising it. Regarding online video chat, I’m not so sure.. Clients can record that and my face will be plastered on the internet for the foreseeable future..

In the past few months researchers have been collecting anecdotal evidence on Covid patients who are gravely ill, and the data points out that there is no pneumonia or ARDS.

Ever noticed the pulmonary oxidative distress in CT scans? It’s always bilateral. (Bilateral means both longs at the same time)

Covid is causing prolonged hypoxia by depriving the blood cells of oxygen. (By binding to the hemoglobin in our red blood cells) People are simply losing the O2 in their blood, which leads to organ failure and eventually death. Pneumonia is not the culprit. The iron ion that our hemoglobin has lost will fly freely in the bloodstream causing oxidative damage. Hence the bilateral CT scans.

Thus, ventilators not only are useless but they can actually cause damage and scarring. The solution is to simply wait until the patient’s immune system to pull through, and put them on O2 so that the little hemoglobin left in their body can bind to that oxygen.

This data suggests that covid is a lot more sinister than we have previously assumed, I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to do escorting in the near future.. But Hydroxychloroquine / Azithromicin may get us somewhere.

don’t know why but I found all what you wrote super hot

 

[Simonka]

don’t know why but I found all what you wrote super hot

It could be because you’re horny and deprived of sex because @Sudsy just said it’s beeen debunked LMAO

 

[Frenchy]

It could be because you’re horny and deprived of sex because @Sudsy just said it’s beeen debunked LMAO

Yeah, always the party-pooper!
(Although to be clear I never actually saw him poop at a party, gotta be careful on TAG cause its easy to be very litteral sometimes)

 

[Simonka]

Yeah, always the party-pooper!
(Although to be clear I never actually saw him poop at a party, gotta be careful on TAG cause its easy to be very litteral sometimes)

We’re on an adult forum, I’m SURE someone gets off on the idea ahahahah

 

[MikeH]

How about vitamin D deficiency and it’s correlation to covid?

I believe there is one study that shows a correlation between severe vitamin D deficiency and death rate by corona. This though might not mean anything, it could be for example that people with severe vitamin D deficiency are already sick for other diseases and thus in high risk group.

However taking a safe amount of vitamin supplements won't hurt, so 1.000 IU of vitamin D daily might be a good idea.

 

[MikeH]

It could be because you’re horny and deprived of sex

Maybe he just got corona and has a fever?

 

[Simonka]

I believe there is one study that shows a correlation between severe vitamin D deficiency and death rate by corona. This though might not mean anything, it could be for example that people with severe vitamin D deficiency are already sick for other diseases and thus in high risk group.

However taking a safe amount of vitamin supplements won't hurt, so 1.000 IU of vitamin D daily might be a good idea.

Thanks, I already take vitamin D supplements because I’m dumb enough to still avoid the sun despite my genetics (Mediterraneans need sunlight to prevent vitamin d deficiency unlike pale skinned nords who can thrive in lack of sunlight)

 

[Frenchy]

Maybe he just got corona and has a fever?

I got many Coronas. With lime. No fever yet though

 

[Simonka]

Maybe he just got corona and has a fever?

Like your yellow fever? : )

 

[MikeH]

unlike pale skinned nords who can thrive in lack of sunlight

Actually they cannot. But they put vitamin D in everything they consume, even add it to breast milk.

 

[MikeH]

Like your yellow fever? : )

Well, the image I got from the other thread of you and Anna comparing abs might cure even yellow fever.

 

[Simonka]

Well, the image I got from the other thread of you and Anna comparing abs might cure even yellow fever.

Yeah right compare me to Anna, that’s not putting me under tremendous stress at all

 

[Sudsy]

Great to know!
How about vitamin D deficiency and it’s correlation to covid? I would be happy to know if that one gets debunked! (Family has a long history of deficiency due to being Mediterranean)

That one's from a reputable source, but the study hasn't been replicated yet. It does show promise, especially since low Vit. D levels have been shown to have a strong correlation with other acute pulmonary and respiratory tract infections. This is also supported by the disparate number of severe C19 cases in American blacks - 82% of American black people have Vit. D insufficiency issues due to the darker pigmentation of their skin. More than 30% of C19 cases in the US affect blacks, even though they only comprise a little less than 13% of the population.

Supplementing Vit. D (to recommended daily intake levels, not megadosing) would not be a bad idea. If you're staying indoors, a daily vitamin D intake of 1000–4000 IU, or 25–100 micrograms, should be more than enough for most people. 4,000 IU per day is the tolerable upper limit for adults (Table 4), and you shouldn't exceed 4,000 IU per day without medical advice.

Vegan sources (since you asked about vegan protein in another thread) are much less effective at raising serum Vit. D levels than animal based, and if you're using them (Vit. D2 - ergocalciferol) you'll need 2 - 2.5 times as much to achieve the effect of Vit. D3 (cholecalciferol) sources. Discuss with a doctor first, obviously.

 

[Simonka]

That one's from a reputable source, but the study hasn't been replicated yet. It does show promise, especially since low Vit. D levels have been shown to have a strong correlation with other acute pulmonary and respiratory tract infections. This is also supported by the disparate number of severe C19 cases in American blacks - 82% of American black people have Vit. D insufficiency issues due to the darker pigmentation of their skin. More than 30% of C19 cases in the US affect blacks, even though they only comprise a little less than 13% of the population.

Supplementing Vit. D (to recommended daily intake levels, not megadosing) would not be a bad idea. If you're staying indoors, a daily vitamin D intake of 1000–4000 IU, or 25–100 micrograms, should be more than enough for most people. 4,000 IU per day is the tolerable upper limit for adults (Table 4), and you shouldn't exceed 4,000 IU per day without medical advice.

Vegan sources (since you asked about vegan protein in another thread) are much less effective at raising serum Vit. D levels than animal based, and if you're using them (Vit. D2 - ergocalciferol) you'll need 2 - 2.5 times as much to achieve the effect of Vit. D3 (cholecalciferol) sources. Discuss with a doctor first, obviously.

Thank you. I’m not vegan, but I consume a lot of plant based products. I already use a vitamin d supplement within these recommended daily doses, thank you.

 

[thenoobsay1]

I’ve been shifting towards Onlyfans and online sex work because the antibody tests are currently not 100% accurate, and we don’t even know if we develop immunity when we catch covid. So I’m actually in the process of producing content before advertising it. Regarding online video chat, I’m not so sure.. Clients can record that and my face will be plastered on the internet for the foreseeable future..

In the past few months researchers have been collecting anecdotal evidence on Covid patients who are gravely ill, and the data points out that there is no pneumonia or ARDS.

Ever noticed the pulmonary oxidative distress in CT scans? It’s always bilateral. (Bilateral means both longs at the same time)

Covid is causing prolonged hypoxia by depriving the blood cells of oxygen. (By binding to the hemoglobin in our red blood cells) People are simply losing the O2 in their blood, which leads to organ failure and eventually death. Pneumonia is not the culprit. The iron ion that our hemoglobin has lost will fly freely in the bloodstream causing oxidative damage. Hence the bilateral CT scans.

Thus, ventilators not only are useless but they can actually cause damage and scarring. The solution is to simply wait until the patient’s immune system to pull through, and put them on O2 so that the little hemoglobin left in their body can bind to that oxygen.

This data suggests that covid is a lot more sinister than we have previously assumed, I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to do escorting in the near future.. But Hydroxychloroquine / Azithromicin may get us somewhere.

Do you think the onlyfans market is getting too saturated? I'm not familiar with the site at all but I've seen girls complain online about how much competition they have and their earnings are dropping. I'm hoping you can still make some money on it though!

 

[Frenchy]

Do you think the onlyfans market is getting too saturated? I'm not familiar with the site at all but I've seen girls complain online about how much competition they have and their earnings are dropping. I'm hoping you can still make some money on it though!

... and how different is it from Patreon?

 

[Frenchy]

Yeah right compare me to Anna, that’s not putting me under tremendous stress at all

To be honest, I think both of you should get a few kgs MORE.
Where should I send you some hearty French food like cassoulet, pot au feu, choucroute etc?

 

[Anna Summer]

To be honest, I think both of you should get a few kgs MORE.
Where should I send you some hearty French food like cassoulet, pot au feu, choucroute etc?

You gotta bribe my metabolism first for this to work