Positive prostitution books and movies?

BB0523 said:
Interesting Thread Alice and good feedback as well.... I think the reason there are not more positive portrayals of SW in media is because of the Religious aspect of society in general.. So as previously mentioned.. shows there is an opportunity for you "badass" to change the opinion by your own memoires or stories... of course that's going to be a big time investment, but if you journal (Blog or Vlog) everyday about what you did or your client did, then people want to know that. I think TV and Movies have made most people voyeuristic in general terms, otherwise, why these reality shows continue... Actually a reality show about Escorts would be really interesting and entertaining... I guess the main hurdle would be filming in a locations where P4P is legal... Netflix seems to be producing loads of content... I'm not in the industry, but..... I smell a market and potential which means $$$$ can be made. Look how 50 Shades opened the mainstream door on a otherwise sub-culture of S & M.... and I believe I read women were buying the book much more than men... Sooo..... ALICE.... BadAss in Wonderland... certainly could be quite a nice book, series, movie, etc..... The only question left is who to play you ? Nicole Kidman ? Margot Robbie ? Self ?

OK.... I know what I've typed has not added one constructive bit to this thread for which I accept flames and apologize for .... Don't underestimate yourself or your chosen profession at this stage in your life... Whatever you want to do, I'm sure there is a way to achieve it... just finding the proper people to help with the project... It doesn't have to be a "Hollywood" production and writing doesn't cost you anything but time..well and ink if you go old school... :D

I'm sure other's would agree that they would read, watch.. otherwise support that endeavor.....
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If Alice were to ever write a book of her experiences, i bet there would be many keen to buy it (including me) - especially those who met or interacted with her here on TAG.
Shame about the privacy issues. Maybe she could release it in a few decades....when the past has been long forgotten and most of her clients would be dead. :unsure:
 
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Of course fiction with disclaimer, no identifying details and names changed to protect identity... but still interesting read.. especially, say when you running to a client meeting and the heel of your shoe breaks and no spare pair with you, so you hobble along until you meet the client, he sees you walking and asks if you have a prosthetic leg (Deuce Bigalow reference) and you say no.. just shoe malfunction.. so he bends down, grabs the other shoe and breaks that heel off so you have matching pair.... you sigh... but that was my most favorite pair of heels... He says, well they still match.... :D I'm sure you and other's have similar funny things that happen to you or clients...
 
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Definitely have to add "dangerous woman" (available on Japanese netflix now)

While set in a very different time, this movie captures the job most realistically in my opinion.
Both her friendly and caring relationship with her clients, and them caring enough about her to stand up for her when they needed to, and the prudeness of religious people and the jealousy of other people who cant earn like her, cant date her or cant stand their husbands being more interested in her are totally spot on.
 
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User#8628 said:
Definitely have to add "dangerous woman" (available on Japanese netflix now)
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I'm not in Japan yet and my local Netflix doesn't have this.

When I tried doing a google search for this film, the only thing that came up is an American film that is totally unrelated. Is this in Japanese? And, if so, do you have the Japanese title for the film?
 
TonyBe said:
I'm not in Japan yet and my local Netflix doesn't have this.

When I tried doing a google search for this film, the only thing that came up is an American film that is totally unrelated. Is this in Japanese? And, if so, do you have the Japanese title for the film?
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Damn it, i meant "dangerous beauty"

I tend to mix that title up with the ariana grande song, lol
 
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User#8628 said:
Damn it, i meant "dangerous beauty"

I tend to mix that title up with the ariana grande song, lol
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Ok, thanks. That makes a lot more sense. When I was googling it I mostly found Ariana Grande references.

But, I'm in the UK at the moment (I'm not coming to Japan until July) and it's interesting that this film isn't available on British Netflix. There are lots of odd quirks about Netflix.


(So, now I'm going totally off-topic)

I watched a trailer on youtube of "Dangerous Beauty" and it looks quite interesting so I'm sure that I'll be able to find somewhere to download it. However, having watched that trailer I note that Rufus Sewell is the main male lead in the film - and I do have a bit of an issue with him.

So, you are probably asking yourself how I immediately recognised this guy in a trailer for a film from the 90s. Well, back in the late 90s he was actually in quite a lot of films like this, but I first saw him in a play in London in 1993.

It was a play by Tom Stoppard called "Arcadia". After the play had finished my then girlfriend (later wife, now ex-wife) could not stop talking about handsome/sexy he was. I had to put up with that for a very long time, but the annoying thing is, he is actually quite a good actor.

For anybody who isn't old enough to have seen those films back in the 90s you might otherwise know him as Obergruppenführer John Smith in the Amazon Prime show "The Man in in the High Castle". Perhaps the most annoying thing is that he is the same age as I am but he definitely looks way better than I do:-

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TonyBe said:
Ok, thanks. That makes a lot more sense. When I was googling it I mostly found Ariana Grande references.

But, I'm in the UK at the moment (I'm not coming to Japan until July) and it's interesting that this film isn't available on British Netflix. There are lots of odd quirks about Netflix.


(So, now I'm going totally off-topic)

I watched a trailer on youtube of "Dangerous Beauty" and it looks quite interesting so I'm sure that I'll be able to find somewhere to download it. However, having watched that trailer I note that Rufus Sewell is the main male lead in the film - and I do have a bit of an issue with him.

So, you are probably asking yourself how I immediately recognised this guy in a trailer for a film from the 90s. Well, back in the late 90s he was actually in quite a lot of films like this, but I first saw him in a play in London in 1993.

It was a play by Tom Stoppard called "Arcadia". After the play had finished my then girlfriend (later wife, now ex-wife) could not stop talking about handsome/sexy he was. I had to put up with that for a very long time, but the annoying thing is, he is actually quite a good actor.

For anybody who isn't old enough to have seen those films back in the 90s you might otherwise know him as Obergruppenführer John Smith in the Amazon Prime show "The Man in in the High Castle". Perhaps the most annoying thing is that he is the same age as I am but he definitely looks way better than I do:-

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I'm sorry for the mix up and glad you found it now. Too bad its not on UK netflix. The netflix lineup differs a lot per country and is completely random and there are often different things going in and out.

Thats a really funny story about the main actor. I've never seen him in another movie but he was quite good. He is not particularly my type though. His eyes look a bit weird, don't they?
 
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Ok, thanks. That makes a lot more sense. When I was googling it I mostly found Ariana Grande references.

But, I'm in the UK at the moment (I'm not coming to Japan until July) and it's interesting that this film isn't available on British Netflix. There are lots of odd quirks about Netflix.


(So, now I'm going totally off-topic)

I watched a trailer on youtube of "Dangerous Beauty" and it looks quite interesting so I'm sure that I'll be able to find somewhere to download it. However, having watched that trailer I note that Rufus Sewell is the main male lead in the film - and I do have a bit of an issue with him.

So, you are probably asking yourself how I immediately recognised this guy in a trailer for a film from the 90s. Well, back in the late 90s he was actually in quite a lot of films like this, but I first saw him in a play in London in 1993.

It was a play by Tom Stoppard called "Arcadia". After the play had finished my then girlfriend (later wife, now ex-wife) could not stop talking about handsome/sexy he was. I had to put up with that for a very long time, but the annoying thing is, he is actually quite a good actor.

For anybody who isn't old enough to have seen those films back in the 90s you might otherwise know him as Obergruppenführer John Smith in the Amazon Prime show "The Man in in the High Castle". Perhaps the most annoying thing is that he is the same age as I am but he definitely looks way better than I do:-

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Another funny story about one of the male actors in this movie:
So, while Rufus is the love interest of the girl the movie is about, probably the guy with the biggest role is Oliver Platt. The character he plays is awful, but he plays him very well, as usual.
Before i was familiar with his work, i was telling a client that i though he looked like Chris Pratt (I sincerely thought he did), and he thought i meant Oliver Platt and he didn't like it. Awkward situation.
 
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User#8628 said:
Another funny story about one of the male actors in this movie:
So, while Rufus is the love interest of the girl the movie is about, probably the guy with the biggest role is Oliver Platt. The character he plays is awful, but he plays him very well, as usual.
Before i was familiar with his work, i was telling a client that i though he looked like Chris Pratt (I sincerely thought he did), and he thought i meant Oliver Platt and he didn't like it. Awkward situation.
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he couldn't see the similarity? :rolleyes:
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Cathouse: The Series - ran for two seasons on HBO way back in 2005. Documentary series about the Moonlight Bunnyranch in Nevada. Thought it was pretty interesting, wish they’d bring it back.
 
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User#8628 said:
Thats a really funny story about the main actor. I've never seen him in another movie but he was quite good. He is not particularly my type though. His eyes look a bit weird, don't they?
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I agree. I'm really glad that I'm not the only one who thinks he looks a bit odd. Although, to be quite frank, a lot of women do find him attractive for some reason.


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I've never seen him in another movie but he was quite good.
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He often played the bad guy in a lot of films. A couple of films that any Americans reading this might have heard of, for example, he played the bad guy in a US romcom called "The Holiday" starring Cameron Diaz, Kate Winslett, Jude Law and Jack Black. He was also the bad guy in "A Knight's Tale" starring Heath Ledger:-

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But this is what he looked like back in the day when my then-girlfriend fell in lust with him (this is a publicity still from the 1993 production of the play - the woman in the background is an actress by the name of Emma Fielding):-


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TonyBe said:
I agree. I'm really glad that I'm not the only one who thinks he looks a bit odd. Although, to be quite frank, a lot of women do find him attractive for some reason.




He often played the bad guy in a lot of films. A couple of films that any Americans reading this might have heard of, for example, he played the bad guy in a US romcom called "The Holiday" starring Cameron Diaz, Kate Winslett, Jude Law and Jack Black. He was also the bad guy in "A Knight's Tale" starring Heath Ledger:-

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But this is what he looked like back in the day when my then-girlfriend fell in lust with him (this is a publicity still from the 1993 production of the play - the woman in the background is an actress by the name of Emma Fielding):-


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I've watched The Holiday a long time ago. Did not recognize him from it. I love Heath Ledger's acting, i'll have to check out "a knight's tale".

Ah, on that theater poster he does look better than in the movie i saw indeed.
 
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I had watched secret diary of a call girl and honestly the protagonist doesn't have more problems than any other girl who works in a more conventional field. Not sure if that's positive but certainly less biased.

The thing is wearing protection is relatively a new thing and decades ago as a sex worked you would either get pregnant if you're lucky or you would die due to chlamidia complications. It was something poor people did to feed themselves. So a lot of old books have suffering prostitutes in them.
 
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rob040188 said:
She eventually quit being a call girl and she got her PhD in Forensic Pathology. She has 4 scientific papers to her name (as the first author).
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Yeah but how many client bodies she had to chop up and examine to get to that level?
 
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User#8628 said:
My question: do you guys have any books or movies to recomment that put sex work in a positive light? Women honestly enjoying it.
If possible, something without unknowing or jealous partners but with full support of everyone.
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The short lived science fiction series Firefly featured Morena Baccarin as the 26th century equivalent of an escort/mistress. She was one of my favorite characters on that show and I wish they had continued the series.
 
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This is not directly about sexwork but i have not related to a movie this much in a long time.

So i just watched “departures” for the first time. I felt like the way he has to hide his job from everyone and the way his friend and wife react when they find out is very very similar to sexwork. It was really emotional for me to see this in a movie and i felt very understood. I feel like its much the same taboo. Just like this guy i have a job that means a lot to me and that i’m very emotionally invested in but that other people are really grossed out by and want nothing to do with, like its a bad thing.

And would definitely consider this as a possible carreer change in the future.
 
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So i just watched “departures” for the first time. I felt like the way he has to hide his job from everyone and the way his friend and wife react when they find out is very very similar to sexwork. It was really emotional for me to see this in a movie and i felt very understood. I feel like its much the same taboo. Just like this guy i have a job that means a lot to me and that i’m very emotionally invested in but that other people are really grossed out by and want nothing to do with, like its a bad thing.
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THIS.
I love Departures. This beautiful film from 2008 provided such a different, poignant take of an occupation that a lot of people don’t really understand. It’s impact on my beliefs resonated when a close relative who saw the film with me had moved on.
Thank you, @User#8628, for sharing how the film’s story resonated with your personal experience.

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AMcguyver said:
Though it was never specifically stated in the show, Phoebe in the tv series Friends was a sex worker.
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so THIS is why I loved phoebe so much! I can't believe I never caught that.
 
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