Provider Bed-Talk: We don't like Japanese men?

[Frostie]

If this topic is too sensitive and could potentially open a can of worms, please delete this!

As I was writing my reviews, I remembered some of the bed-talk I had with my providers after our deed was done, and there seemed to be a common theme when they compared their experiences with foreigners and locals: foreigners were much more passionate and loving, and did not prefer Japanese men. They described the experience they had with locals as 'mechanical', with lack of foreplay (such as conversations, massaging, gentle kissing, etc.) They said that they pretty much go straight to the deed and then leave, with almost no sort of emotional connection during the experience. My question is, is this just bed-side talk for foreigners just to boost our ego and make us come back, or is there similar feedback that you all have heard of? Keep in mind that the providers I went to are very foreign-friendly, so bias might play a part. This perspective has been shared from all the providers I've seen so far.

I'm not bashing on Japanese locals at all, I'm just curious if any of you have heard this from providers, and whether there is any truth in it. I'm sure not all Japanese locals are cold robots at love making

Side note: I'm not white (when Japanese think of foreigners, they mainly think of white), I'm of Chinese descent, but I look Japanese. Don't know if that plays any significance at all in any of this. They all say I do look Japanese especially with the facial hair, and that if my Japanese improved, I could fool people

 

[patty diaz]

A mix of cultural and just boosting customers ego. Going to escort is just what it is, a service in a lot of japanese peoples eyes...for e.g. a thing I hear a lot is its like paying money to go eat out or paying for a basic need...thus they dont consider going to escorts cheating as they paid money and no emotion is involved. (Quite a few of these guys are in relationships already so why would they need the emotional part of a service when they have that already)

Obviously not everyone is like that but ...yeah a lot just treat it as it is, a non emotional paid service. Dine and go.

 

[Frenchy]

I heard sthg similar a few times, not sure its statistically significant. Not sure its even what they really felt. To be honest, i dont really give a damn what they think about Japanese men, or foreigners, even myself for that matter. We usually talk about other topics...

 

[TAG_Member]

I think it's somewhat true. Most Japanese I imagine to look at a provider simply as a service and therefore feel no emotional attachment. Japanese are also typically shy or lack interaction - just look at how they treat shop staff - so it makes sense.

 

[Frenchy]

Japanese are also typically shy or lack interaction - just look at how they treat shop staff - so it makes sense.

It can be very different in other settings though. Small towns vs Tokyo. Big chain's store vs local mom&pop store. Same thing in other countries btw.
I found that in Japan there are a lot of warm interactions on the opposite when they go to some classic old-school bars, or sushi, yakitori, heck even hostess bars or "girls bars". Its not true they always act robotically and dont seek warmer interactions. But alcohol is often more needed to break the ice than in other more "extrovert" cultures, granted.
Each time i go to Golden Gai bars for instance total strangers talk to the bar staff and between each other, even to foreigners like me. Then they can become really too "inquisitive" on the opposite! (-:

 

[SugoiBoy]

A mix of cultural and just boosting customers ego. Going to escort is just what it is, a service in a lot of japanese peoples eyes...for e.g. a thing I hear a lot is its like paying money to go eat out or paying for a basic need...thus they dont consider going to escorts cheating as they paid money and no emotion is involved. (Quite a few of these guys are in relationships already so why would they need the emotional part of a service when they have that already)

Obviously not everyone is like that but ...yeah a lot just treat it as it is, a non emotional paid service. Dine and go.

I've heard similar things elsewhere. For example, in Thailand some Thai women will say negative stuff about Thai men to foreigners. Yet, how much of it is actually true? How do the women really feel?

 

[User#8628]

I've heard similar things elsewhere. For example, in Thailand some Thai women will say negative stuff about Thai men to foreigners. Yet, how much of it is actually true? How do the women really feel?

Yes, i think it is partly just flatering.
Also, a thing to consider here is that many Japanese providers don't see foreigners. And the shops that allow foreigners often give the girls a choice to accept foreign customers or not. So the girls who do choose to accept them do this very aware, and they probably have a thing for foreigners of like them better than Japanese men.

 

[meiji]

The main thing I've heard is that westerners especially Americans do their best to 'last' during play and also to attempt to please the provider, I suppose in order to get their money's worth or prove manhood, etc. Where Japanese guys just don't care. They are there to get their rocks off. How accurate that is, I don't know. Most of the reviews of Americans I read back that up, although guys tend to exaggerate. I personally prefer a GFE session and prefer to give as much as I get.

 

[User#8628]

My personal experience with Japanese men is not like this at all. They are super sweet, affectionate and love a GFE. They treat me like a princess.
But i think i may have different experience from a Japanese soap or delivery girl, both because of looking different and offering a different type of service.
There is a similar thing that Japanese guys who date foreigners sometimes quite easily say "i love you" but that japanese guys dont say it lightly to their japanese girlfriends.

 

[Frostie]

that is enlightening, perhaps the reason these providers might say these things is because it is partly due to their bias, i.e. their openness to having foreign customers/already having a thing for foreigners, not because japanese locals are less affectionate. Westerners/foreigners are often perceived to give and receive love generously, which might explain the multitudes of sweet nothings that japanese men/women say to foreigners, but less so to other japanese.

 

[horse]

My personal experience with Japanese men is not like this at all. They are super sweet, affectionate and love a GFE. They treat me like a princess.
But i think i may have different experience from a Japanese soap or delivery girl, both because of looking different and offering a different type of service.
There is a similar thing that Japanese guys who date foreigners sometimes quite easily say "i love you" but that japanese guys dont say it lightly to their japanese girlfriends.

Thats because you are bright shining light for any man Alice

 

[patty diaz]

I've heard similar things elsewhere. For example, in Thailand some Thai women will say negative stuff about Thai men to foreigners. Yet, how much of it is actually true? How do the women really feel?

I dont know but that is what numerous Japanese male friends and my kyaba customers have told me over the years

 

[Frenchy]

I dont know but that is what numerous Japanese male friends and my kyaba customers have told me over the years

You mean... thats what your Japanese male friends/customers said they heard from Thai ladies? Or they say similar "negative stuff" about Japanese ladies to you (as I suppose you arent one?)

 

[Jbagz]

I've heard similar things elsewhere. For example, in Thailand some Thai women will say negative stuff about Thai men to foreigners. Yet, how much of it is actually true? How do the women really feel?

I live in Thailand and think that it is best to ignore any flattery and trash talk about how they don't like Thai guys.

Especially in the case of bar girls and prostitues.

Actually the act of paying another person for companionship should invalidate all of their opinions that involve the customer's looks, personality, cultural group, etc.

About the only thing you can rely on them to be 100 percent honest about is what you should pay them.

That's not just in Thailand, or Japan. That's anywhere.

 

[Frenchy]

I live in Thailand and think that it is best to ignore any flattery and trash talk about how they don't like Thai guys.

Especially in the case of bar girls and prostitues.

Actually the act of paying another person for companionship should invalidate all of their opinions that involve the customer's looks, personality, cultural group, etc.

About the only thing you can rely on them to be 100 percent honest about is what you should pay them.

That's not just in Thailand, or Japan. That's anywhere.

Fully agreed!
Btw did you try to answer "oh really?! I think Thai guys are hot though" , just for fun. Or say you're a big fan of Slot Machine (saw them in Tokyo and i honestly liked this band btw)

 

[patty diaz]

You mean... thats what your Japanese male friends/customers said they heard from Thai ladies? Or they say similar "negative stuff" about Japanese ladies to you (as I suppose you arent one?)

did you read my original post？im talking about how Japanese men feel about using escort services....

 

[Frenchy]

did you read my original post？im talking about how Japanese men feel about using escort services....

Ok got it, its just that afterwards you reacted on a post about Thai ladies , hence my confusion