Question On Calling A Service For The 1st Time?

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  1. Herbalist123

    Herbalist123 New Member

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    Sorry if this is a dumb question but when calling a deriheru for the first time & unsure of their gaijin policy should you open up with along the lines of "gaikokujin no kata daijobu desu ka" or that effect? Or just assume they already know & go along with it? Just wondering how all of you approach it. Thanks for the tips.
     
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    Your (insert native country's language here) accent gives you away immediately. Say nothing about it. The tencho will immediately cock-block you once they hear your voice, if that is their store policy.
     
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    Dunno, it depends. I sound pretty convincingly Japanese for the familiar phrases; of course I give myself away when I get into conversation. Anyway, yes, I both say that this is my first time calling the shop, that I am gaijin, but that I have read and understood the rules. That lays out the groundwork, so the tenchou knows what he is dealing with. That makes everything more comfortable. Japanese people like to know where they are in a conversation.
     
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    Imho-ALL humans like to know where they are in a conversation. This isn't something appreciated especially by Japanese. My point is that there is no value add for being so forthcoming to the tencho over the phone.

    If your language skills aren't up to the minimum language required to ensure that you can safely play, he'll know it right away.

    Imagine if you were a tencho, and someone who didn't really understand English called you to reserve a girl. You could know very easily whether or not the guy could safely play with your girls by asking just a couple of questions.

    My point is that you stand only to lose by explicitly saying you are a gaijin over the phone. Specifically, the girl selection may drop off a cliff, or you will get cockblocked, when the girl may actually have no problem with you.

    I suppose that if a girl goes to your door, and is shocked to see that you are a gaijin that she may turn heel and run away, but I have never had that happen to me. In fact, the opposite has happened numerous times.

    If anyone has had a girl run away after seeing the 'truth' of your appearance, I would like to hear about it, and would quickly retract my advice if so.
     
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    I disagree, but that is just my opinion. If your approach works for you, good for you.

    Personally, I think it is awkward to let things dangle out there in the balance. I can converse quite well in Japanese, but I am of course not a native, so what am I supposed to be? A Japanese local with a language impediment? Does that help me? Or lets say I pass as Japanese on the phone, and the tencho sets me up with a girl who refuses gaijin. Then what? This has actually happened to me once, in one of the Chinese places. The tenchou didn´t tell the girl (very young, very cute, just arrived from Shanghai) that I am hairy devil, with the result that she stormed out of the room once she saw me. So I am standing there, and in comes the embarrassed tenchou and apologizes. This is what you want? OK...
     
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    I guess I'm somewhere in the middle here.

    I think generally it's the language requirement that keeps both orgs and girls from being willing to meet. For a delivery health service, it's not like you are going to run into other Japanese male customers that are going to be turned off from the org that way that you would at a soapland or other incall type place, so I doubt the org cares, and from what I've read most of the girls care much less if a guy is a foreigner than the org does.

    If you speak excellent Japanese (good enough to fool just about anyone on the phone), sure, it's worth it to not mention it, because chances are the org isn't going to catch on (or if they do they assume that your japanese is good enough) and the girl probably won't care either because she won't worry about expressing her concerns to you in Japanese.

    If you are like me and your Japanese kind of sucks, you are probably better off starting out the conversation asking if foreigners are okay. I usually say something to the effect of "Hey, I'm an American. Can I make an appointment with so-and-so today?" That way, they know that I'm a gaijin and can also tell me if the current girl of my dreams is foreigner-friendly.
     
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    As I pointed out, this is deception, and sure as hell the girl "will care" if she has an anti-gaijin policy. How in the world do you assume that you can somehow deceive someone into liking you by lying about your appearance? I don´t get the concept.

    Would you likewise not care if a deli health shop posts fake pictures and sends someone who is totally different from what you expect?
     
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    This is actually something I've been wondering about with regard to AM. I'm pretty hairy myself, has this been a problem in your experience?
     
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    LOL, no. With "hairy foreigner" I was referring to the Japanese dirty word for gaijin (ketou). In Chinese, it is something like"gwei-lou", isn´t it?
    AM is a service for foreigners, don´t worry if you look like an orang utan, haha.
     
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    Fantastic news, thank you.
     
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    AM doesn't care, as long as you are clean and polite. I'm not anywhere near the least hairy guy out there and have had some very good experiences with AM. No worries there.
     
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    A lot of good information, thanks for the tips. While my japanese is good enough to hold a conversation in most situations I am far from fluent and would never pass as a native. I think I agree with those of you that are up front about it, "hey I'm a foriegner but can communicate & understand the deal". Thanks
     
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    When you call what exactly do you say in Japanese. I am far from perfect, but I start with, Moshi Moshi, kyo wa chumon shitai n desu ga. Is this correct? (This is the same Japanese I use to order a pizza.) Just wondering if this is the correct way
    to call a Deliheru or is there a more polite and natural way? I want to improve as much as I can.
     
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    Usually I'll open with with the whole "gaikokujin daijobu desu ka" bit if its my first time calling. If I know exactly who I want will typically use "oo-San kyo yoroshii desu ka"? That usually works for me. Sometimes use "kyo wa jyosei ni asonde ii desu ka" which is a little more juvenile but does the trick. Interesting to hear what all of you use, very enlightening for noobs or guys like me still learning the ropes. Thanks.
     
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    Here is a few transcripts of a Japanese person calling deliveries:

    http://fukuokadeli.cocolog-nifty.com/

    I'll post one here in case the site goes down for some reason:

    トゥルルルートゥルルルー ガチャッ

    店 「はい」

    私 「みんみんさんですか?」

    店 「はい」

    私 「お願いしたいのですが・・・」

    店 「どちらのホテルですか?」

    私 「自宅なのですが。。」

    店 「住所をお願いします。」

    私 「福岡市中央区天神○○です。」

    店 「お名前お願いします。」

    私 「○○です。」

    店 「ご指名の子はいますか?」

    私 「◎◎さんを。」

    店 「わかりました。それでは20分ほどで伺います。」

    私 「はーい」
     
  16. R.O.B

    R.O.B The pals are not what they scream.

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    I recently decided to try a deriheru and called around a few that looked interesting. The first thing I did was ask the guy if foreigners were okay. My Japanese is very good. One said if you are good enough to be able to communicate that is enough. One said "Wait a minute" and he came back, asked which country I was from and said okay. I am guessing that if they really have a 'no gaijin' policy then that is that. Otherwise their concern seems to be if you can communicate with the girls (they do not want any misunderstandings) and possibly where you are from - that is a road I ain't going down here. I would suggest that if you be upfront and sincere and try then you have a better chance. As Zap said, even if you are fluent and can pass off as a Japanese over the phone, you don't want any unpleasant surprises at meeting time. If you Japanese is not so good, write it out and practice it.

    And about hair, although my photo left is egg-shaped and smooth I have a bit of hair. When I decided to walk on the wild side I made a decision. I shaved it off. From chest to crack, carefully. And I do each time before I go. Now… once you stop laughing, I should tell you the girl love it. They think it is so funny at first (a good ice-breaker!), and boys, it does feel nice to have nothing else between skin and tongue.
     

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