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Rating: 3 stars out of 5
On the fence about this bar, and if should give a lower rating. Very borderline, but has to do more with their staff, as the design of the bar is good. Might be worth a look, for those swingers looking for or trying different places.
Good points:
1) Nice interior, nice decor.
2) Has nice semi-private tables/booths with curtains.
Great for having private conversations with women new to the club or lifestyle.
3) Will allow foreigners.
But, they will check if you speak Japanese or have been to other happening bars. If you tell them you are a member of Bliss Out or other HB they know, they are more likely to allow you in.
4) Good for inviting your friends for swinger parties.
5) Action does happen.
Unpredictable, but does occur.
6) Besides the playroom, they have a partially hidden couch area/room. Sometimes people play there, and not in the playroom, and is a fun feature of the club.
Bad points:
1) Photocopying IDs.
Has been a while since I went, so policy might have changed. Hopefully so.
2) Doesn't allow female members, to bring male guests, if signed up as single member.
Once a female signs up as a single member, she can never come in as a couple. Women have to choose which, and many women don't know the policy until too late or after already signing up. This is a bad management practice, and self-defeating greediness. If she is already a member, you must enter, as if separate.
Other Happening Bars are not so strict.
3) Staff can be overly aggressive
The staff can act more like bouncers at a disco, then at a happening bar. This can create a vibe of rudeness and takeaway from the fun of coming.
4) Overly controlling of playroom
Staff appears to have limited understanding about swinging, and are more interested in arbitrary control of customers that at times borders on illogical and pointless.
For example, there are 2 playrooms. Couples have to choose which, and then can only play in that one, and not switch to the other until they exit. After you exit the playroom area, then you can switch to the other. This makes no sense whatsoever, however is the bar's policy. Sometimes they apply the policy, sometimes not, thus very arbitrary and confusing.
Single males are not allowed to enter the playrooms nor allowed to watch (so they paid for?), unless invited by a couple, which the staff will double check. Sometimes this checking can be overly excessive.
5) Don't usually expect action there, unless you are bringing a lady or you get lucky. If you are a single guy, the less Japanese you speak, the more difficult it can be.
6) Some Japanese can be anti-foreigner/racist, particularly an issue for single foreign guys. So yes, coming as a couple is better.
Website
http://retreatbar.jp
Location
Approximate and not exact, but near. Look for the Lizon building. Bar is downstairs.
160-0021 Tokyo-to, Sinjuku-ku, Kabukicho, 2 Chome-35-3
https://goo.gl/maps/3pwJi (Google Maps)
On the fence about this bar, and if should give a lower rating. Very borderline, but has to do more with their staff, as the design of the bar is good. Might be worth a look, for those swingers looking for or trying different places.
Good points:
1) Nice interior, nice decor.
2) Has nice semi-private tables/booths with curtains.
Great for having private conversations with women new to the club or lifestyle.
3) Will allow foreigners.
But, they will check if you speak Japanese or have been to other happening bars. If you tell them you are a member of Bliss Out or other HB they know, they are more likely to allow you in.
4) Good for inviting your friends for swinger parties.
5) Action does happen.
Unpredictable, but does occur.
6) Besides the playroom, they have a partially hidden couch area/room. Sometimes people play there, and not in the playroom, and is a fun feature of the club.
Bad points:
1) Photocopying IDs.
Has been a while since I went, so policy might have changed. Hopefully so.
2) Doesn't allow female members, to bring male guests, if signed up as single member.
Once a female signs up as a single member, she can never come in as a couple. Women have to choose which, and many women don't know the policy until too late or after already signing up. This is a bad management practice, and self-defeating greediness. If she is already a member, you must enter, as if separate.
Other Happening Bars are not so strict.
3) Staff can be overly aggressive
The staff can act more like bouncers at a disco, then at a happening bar. This can create a vibe of rudeness and takeaway from the fun of coming.
4) Overly controlling of playroom
Staff appears to have limited understanding about swinging, and are more interested in arbitrary control of customers that at times borders on illogical and pointless.
For example, there are 2 playrooms. Couples have to choose which, and then can only play in that one, and not switch to the other until they exit. After you exit the playroom area, then you can switch to the other. This makes no sense whatsoever, however is the bar's policy. Sometimes they apply the policy, sometimes not, thus very arbitrary and confusing.
Single males are not allowed to enter the playrooms nor allowed to watch (so they paid for?), unless invited by a couple, which the staff will double check. Sometimes this checking can be overly excessive.
5) Don't usually expect action there, unless you are bringing a lady or you get lucky. If you are a single guy, the less Japanese you speak, the more difficult it can be.
6) Some Japanese can be anti-foreigner/racist, particularly an issue for single foreign guys. So yes, coming as a couple is better.
Website
http://retreatbar.jp
Location
Approximate and not exact, but near. Look for the Lizon building. Bar is downstairs.
160-0021 Tokyo-to, Sinjuku-ku, Kabukicho, 2 Chome-35-3
https://goo.gl/maps/3pwJi (Google Maps)
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