Rules (or Unwritten Rules) For Full Service With Professionals

[Kikkoman]

Reading through the different topics and threads posted on Tag, I see FS mentioned here and there. In Japan, it is illegal to pay for intercourse. However, what happens between two (or more) people behind closed doors may not be possible to prove.

Based on what I've gathered, it sounds like private escorts typically allow FS in their deals with customers. Soaplands don't advertise, but it seems a lot of people just assumes or joke that they provide FS. And other fuzoku may or may not.

My question is what are the rules or unwritten rules of FS at different fuzoku locations? Let's use soapland and deriheru for example.

• How do you know whether or not you can bring the topic up?
• Are the women used to being asked and therefore just say "rules are rules"
• Should you bring it up at the beginning?
• If they are fine with it, are you expected to pay extra?
• Are there any negotiations involved?

I'm sure more questions can be asked, but I want to start here.

I was looking for a thread with this topic but I couldn't find it. Please let me know if I need to move/change this thread.

Thank you,

K

 

[nedar]

My experience with deriheru so far is that:
- offered by the provider (usually half-way thru the session)

- its extra so you reach for your wallet again (5K is the usual rate but I've had some ask for 10K)

- I don't bother negotiating since theres usually a language barrier.

In anwser to the "Bringing up the topic" portion of your post, I have never done so on the off-chance that the provider might get offended and blacklist me with her agency.

On the broader point of "looking for a thread with this topic", there isn't one (as far as I remember) but the information is usually included inside individual reviews.

 

[scorpioni6ths]

Information from a recent thread. Mainly about the AF option, which might or might not lead to PIV:

http://tokyoadultguide.com/index.php?posts/5774

Everything is YMMV!

 

[jukuhara112]

I can't speak to all soaplands, but those that are heavily reviewed here are basically guaranteed/no need to ask.

At in-call places, mileage varies, but I've been offered several times. Never asked before.

If you're both having fun, and you're not being selfish if you catch my drift, she may be more likely to offer it or say yes if you ask.

You should read the room, but in my opinion it's typically not a big deal to lean in and quietly ask her. The kind of guys who get thrown out or blacklisted are usually the rough guys that give us foreigners a bad name. I've had good experiences and some not so good, but almost every girl I've met has seemed very genuine and they're almost always pleasant if you are to them.

When you do it is up to you. I would say after talking for a bit, if you can/that's your thing. If she sees you're a nice guy, doors begin to open for you. That being said, it might be awkward to ask before things get going. When you're getting hot and heavy, especially if you're doing stuff for her, that's not a bad time to ask, if she doesn't first offer it up to you.

 

[scorpioni6ths]

:
If you're both having fun, and you're not being selfish if you catch my drift, she may be more likely to offer it or say yes if you ask.

You should read the room,
:

The skill of "reading between the lines" comes in handy during these moments, IMHO!

 

[Kikkoman]

Do you think foreigners are treated differently than Japanese customers? Let's say that there's a place that's happy to serve foreigners, would they treat Japanese customers differently vs non Japanese customers?

 

[Curacao]

My experience of FS at delivery health places has always just been to ask in the heat of the moment, when it feels natural, when both parties seem to be enjoying themselves, in the same way I would if it were a non-paid encounter. Some girls say no. There was one girl who sort of didn't say anything and I wasn't sure whether that meant yes or no so I erred on the side of caution. In my experience more girls have said yes than no and none of them have charged me extra.

Mind you I tend to use most of my mongering budget on new half agencies lately so its been a while.

 

[jukuhara112]

Do you think foreigners are treated differently than Japanese customers? Let's say that there's a place that's happy to serve foreigners, would they treat Japanese customers differently vs non Japanese customers?

Hmmm...yes and no. They still use keigo (polite speech) and treat you with "the customer comes first" mentality, but many of these places have a roster of girls who will play with us and those who wont. So in that sense, they will deny you the ability to see everyone at that business and that is no doubt being treated differently.

Also with the exception of a few well-known places on this site, your ability to speak Japanese changes everything. When I go places , I meet the tencho, speak some Japanese to him, and choose a provider, and he'll in return turn around and sorta quietly speak on the phone with her and almost always he says, in Japanese mind you, "I have a customer here that is a foreigner, however he speaks Japanese well (enough)."

So to sum up, just being a foreigner will sometimes have some doors closed to you, even in the foreigner-friendly places, but you can take steps to be more accepted. In addition to speaking, I usually get business cards from the girl to flash to the tencho next time I walk in.

EDIT: Oh and another really obvious one I forgot about; Sometimes you, the dirty, disease-ridden foreigner, will be forced to use a condom for basic play like BJ, whereas a native Japanese guy may not. That's usually the provider's personal policy.

 

[meiji]

Also, if you ask, ask ONCE. Don't badger the girl about it. It's always possible that she's noted your interest and MIGHT go for it on future visits.