Russian/French newbie !

[Frenchy]

1.This is a tough question ! To me I think that there is no such thing as a completely genuine relationship as we all expect to benefit from it in some ways. Which isn't bad as long as the other person benefits from it too. We all want to be loved and to be happy and that's what we are seeking in every relationship in a very selfish way, which again isn't a bad thing. That being said I think that we live in a society where we want the benefits of things without the hustle of working to get them and without the downsides that come with every relationship. That's were sugar relationships kick in. You can shape your perfect relationship with an ideal partner without having to put in the work and without ever seeing the negative sides of it since it is all ruled by money. In some ways we can probably see it as a bridge between a business relationship (based on money) and a relationship (based on an emotional connection). So as in any relationship, both sides of the SR benefit from it but in different ways, financial or emotional.
I don't really know if we can call it "dry", it all depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for true love or genuine friendship it sure is. But if you only want to enjoy the bright side of having a companion without the drama that comes along you have to put up with it being ruled by money first. It doesn't mean that it is only about money (I think that a lot of SBs are genuinely caring for their SDs) but as long as you can't be your true self around someone (by always putting you best foot forward) there's always a hard line that can't be crossed.

2. Hahaha it depends how well you like to sleep at night

very thoughtful for a young lady (if you are really young... and really a lady )

for 2. Just my personal experience (for what its worth... but I dated about 20 SBs so the sample starts to be statistically meaningful I suppose) , I felt about 20% are genuinely into older guys.

‘doesn’t mean the others can’t pretend well, and doesn’t mean the 20% are necessarily « better ». I stopped caring about those things. Current PhilSB is only 8 years younger , has kids , a husband and a real job so I don’t count her in the sample. I start to think that a wide age discrepancy is not necessarily a good thing for the SD either by the way. 20-somethings are not always the best in the sack , nor have the most interesting conversations, sorry to be blunt

 

[Ken1988]

1.This is a tough question ! To me I think that there is no such thing as a completely genuine relationship as we all expect to benefit from it in some ways. Which isn't bad as long as the other person benefits from it too. We all want to be loved and to be happy and that's what we are seeking in every relationship in a very selfish way, which again isn't a bad thing. That being said I think that we live in a society where we want the benefits of things without the hustle of working to get them and without the downsides that come with every relationship. That's were sugar relationships kick in. You can shape your perfect relationship with an ideal partner without having to put in the work and without ever seeing the negative sides of it since it is all ruled by money. In some ways we can probably see it as a bridge between a business relationship (based on money) and a relationship (based on an emotional connection). So as in any relationship, both sides of the SR benefit from it but in different ways, financial or emotional.
I don't really know if we can call it "dry", it all depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for true love or genuine friendship it sure is. But if you only want to enjoy the bright side of having a companion without the drama that comes along you have to put up with it being ruled by money first. It doesn't mean that it is only about money (I think that a lot of SBs are genuinely caring for their SDs) but as long as you can't be your true self around someone (by always putting you best foot forward) there's always a hard line that can't be crossed.

Thank you. This is very enlightening. Also thank you for not doubting my intention to raise such a question. Sometimes in M&G, this type of question invites "hey, you don't want to pay, huh?" type of reaction. The term "dry" comes from my experience with one SB (who was German but raised in east Ukraine, thus spoke Russian...) who budgeted time spent on me in a very strict way. In our dates, she was amazing, yes, genuinely caring for me. However, once being in her "off" time, she seemed to erase my existence. My text was not read - sometimes for a week, which made it so difficult to plan the next date...maybe she was just handling many SDs, but was very frustrating.

Anyway, I wish you find what you are looking for. All the best!

2. Hahaha it depends how well you like to sleep at night

 

[Frenchy]

Thank you. This is very enlightening. Also thank you for not doubting my intention to raise such a question. Sometimes in M&G, this type of question invites "hey, you don't want to pay, huh?" type of reaction. The term "dry" comes from my experience with one SB (who was German but raised in east Ukraine, thus spoke Russian...) who budgeted time spent on me in a very strict way. In our dates, she was amazing, yes, genuinely caring for me. However, once being in her "off" time, she seemed to erase my existence. My text was not read - sometimes for a week, which made it so difficult to plan the next date...maybe she was just handling many SDs, but was very frustrating.

Anyway, I wish you find what you are looking for. All the best!

ah ah. Funny the « hey you don’t want to pay? » line. I must be wired strangely , but on the opposite I’d pay MORE to a lady who has a real fetish for older men.

 

[User#29706]

Can you pm me?
Merci

 

[Frenchy]

Can you pm me?
Merci

Can you pay her ad here?
Merci

 

[Katyakisa]

very thoughtful for a young lady (if you are really young... and really a lady )

for 2. Just my personal experience (for what its worth... but I dated about 20 SBs so the sample starts to be statistically meaningful I suppose) , I felt about 20% are genuinely into older guys.

‘doesn’t mean the others can’t pretend well, and doesn’t mean the 20% are necessarily « better ». I stopped caring about those things. Current PhilSB is only 8 years younger , has kids , a husband and a real job so I don’t count her in the sample. I start to think that a wide age discrepancy is not necessarily a good thing for the SD either by the way. 20-somethings are not always the best in the sack , nor have the most interesting conversations, sorry to be blunt

Haha maybe maybe I am an old grumpy man living on his couch with his 5 cats and piles of philosophical books around his house

The SDs I've met were between 3 and 40 years older than me (pretty wide age sample I know haha) and to be honest I do not have a preference for any age. I get along with anyone as long as we match personality wise. But yeah I get why you think that younger girls are boring, especially here in Japan. I might be wrong but it looks like they always downplay things and act cute without being really bright or interesting. I don't think that being a smart ass around your SD is good either but a deep conversation hasn't ever killed anyone from what I know haha

And I agree with you on the 20% being into older guys. To me 20% like to date older men and would date them in private too, 20% have a fetish for older man and 60% are just dating older men because they have more money.

Thank you. This is very enlightening. Also thank you for not doubting my intention to raise such a question. Sometimes in M&G, this type of question invites "hey, you don't want to pay, huh?" type of reaction. The term "dry" comes from my experience with one SB (who was German but raised in east Ukraine, thus spoke Russian...) who budgeted time spent on me in a very strict way. In our dates, she was amazing, yes, genuinely caring for me. However, once being in her "off" time, she seemed to erase my existence. My text was not read - sometimes for a week, which made it so difficult to plan the next date...maybe she was just handling many SDs, but was very frustrating.

Anyway, I wish you find what you are looking for. All the best!

I think it is totally legitimate to ask this question so I wouldn't have doubted your intentions for one bit
Regarding your former SB I get why it was frustrating for you but maybe she felt you were asking too much of her off time? I had a POT with whom we went on one single date and who texted me every day after that for over a month without asking me out because he was short on money. I am not against texting my SDs in my off time but I am not looking for pen pals so it has to be balanced haha

Thank you !

 

[Katyakisa]

Can you pay her ad here?
Merci

Hahaha I wouldn't say no to that

 

[Frenchy]

Hahaha I wouldn't say no to that

Joke aside, our overlord @TAG Manager should consider widening the scope of ads types. I have nothing against escorts (wink/smirk) but diversity is good: why not SBs, private pole dancers, gigolos, gay providers, trans providers, heck even celibacy preachers for those into that sort of kink...

 

[Katyakisa]

Joke aside, our overlord @TAG Manager should consider widening the scope of ads types. I have nothing against escorts (wink/smirk) but diversity is good: why not SBs, private pole dancers, gigolos, gay providers, trans providers, heck even celibacy preachers for those into that sort of kink...

That would be GREAT !

 

[Frenchy]

Haha maybe maybe I am an old grumpy man living on his couch with his 5 cats and piles of philosophical books around his house

The SDs I've met were between 3 and 40 years older than me (pretty wide age sample I know haha) and to be honest I do not have a preference for any age. I get along with anyone as long as we match personality wise. But yeah I get why you think that younger girls are boring, especially here in Japan. I might be wrong but it looks like they always downplay things and act cute without being really bright or interesting. I don't think that being a smart ass around your SD is good either but a deep conversation hasn't ever killed anyone from what I know haha

And I agree with you on the 20% being into older guys. To me 20% like to date older men and would date them in private too, 20% have a fetish for older man and 60% are just dating older men because they have more money.



I think it is totally legitimate to ask this question so I wouldn't have doubted your intentions for one bit
Regarding your former SB I get why it was frustrating for you but maybe she felt you were asking too much of her off time? I had a POT with whom we went on one single date and who texted me every day after that for over a month without asking me out because he was short on money. I am not against texting my SDs in my off time but I am not looking for pen pals so it has to be balanced haha

Thank you !

just a terminology question but what is a POT for you? If you already had a paid date together he’s not POT(ential) anymore is he?
Or do you consider it’s the real deal only if you get monthly allowances or there is some kind of exclusivity?

 

[Katyakisa]

just a terminology question but what is a POT for you? If you already had a paid date together he’s not POT(ential) anymore is he?
Or do you consider it’s the real deal only if you get monthly allowances or there is some kind of exclusivity?

Oh yeah good question ! I don't know about other SBs but to me a POT is a POT until I see him regularly (doesn't have to be with a monthly allowance) but I generally don't count first dates as SDs since it's more of a trial and error quest of the good fit
I kind of think in the same way in my private life, if I go on one single date with a guy we haven't dated, we've just been on a date. But yeah technically if I went on a paid date with someone he has been my SD even if it was just for one evening I guess !

 

[Frenchy]

Oh yeah good question ! I don't know about other SBs but to me a POT is a POT until I see him regularly (doesn't have to be with a monthly allowance) but I generally don't count first dates as SDs since it's more of a trial and error quest of the good fit
I kind of think in the same way in my private life, if I go on one single date with a guy we haven't dated, we've just been on a date. But yeah technically if I went on a paid date with someone he has been my SD even if it was just for one evening I guess !

Ok , makes sense.
You know at TAG we love good crash-and-burn stories (always got the most Likes with mine )
What’s your most awkward/dreadful experience?

 

[Katyakisa]

Ok , makes sense.
You know at TAG we love good crash-and-burn stories (always got the most Likes with mine )
What’s your most awkward/dreadful experience?

Believe it or not I don't have any awkwardly memorable experience so far haha
Nice dinner dates for most with too much drinking on some days ! But if I come across any awkward experience I will make sure to share it !

 

[Frenchy]

Believe it or not I don't have any awkwardly memorable experience so far haha

ok, it’s time we meet then

 

[Jenkins55]

I had a very different impression of you after you were calling everyone you met a Piece Of Trash (POT).

 

[Frenchy]

I had a very different impression of you after you were calling everyone you met a Piece Of Trash (POT).

See, acronyms are dangerous !

another question for @Katyakisa : you mentioned you missed probably good SDs , what made you think they could be good? In short , what makes you think « hey I’d like to have him as my SD »?

 

[pfargo]

Hi guys !

After stalking this forum for a couple of months I finally grew the ovaries (since I don't have balls haha) to sign up !
My name is Katya, I am a half French/Russian girl living in Tokyo for over a year and a half now. I am looking for SD/SB arrangements or anything else that could be satisfying.
I am kind of a goofball but I also like to dig a philosophical conversation with a good glass of wine (that's the French side) or catch your heart singing at a karaoke (did I mention I was a singer? Well I guess I have now)

Anyways nice to meet you guys ! Hope we can have fun talking on here ! (and more )
よろしくお願いします

hi. Nice meeting you. Please get in touch, I look forward to meeting you

 

[TAG Manager]

Please get in touch, I look forward to meeting you

You should probably read the other messages above.

 

[Maka]

Nice to meet you

 

[Karen]

Nice to meet you

Cannot be witty like Chris. I do have memes though!