Safe to sleep in the parks in Tokyo?

[TokyoJoeblow]

Ok, so this is something I have always been curious about. Someone mentioned this to me, but isn't it inevitable that the cops would approach me and question me while they do their night patrolling for homeless people?

I know that there are a lot of homeless people that sleep in the parks, but since technically not homeless...my "home" is here in Shizuoka and spending money on even cheap hostels/hotels/manga kissa every night adds up!

Are there parks or specific areas in bigger parks where the police might not notice me or not care if they see me sleeping there?

I could always maybe just stay up all night and get some cat naps during the day time if sleeping at parks at night without trouble is impossible. Another option would be to just sleep at McDonald's (required to buy something every hour or so to stay I know).

Has anyone slept overnight at a park in Tokyo or Japan in general and had no issues with police/homeless people/criminals/etc?

 

[Lukes]

I haven't tried sleeping at a park and I wouldn't advise it because unlike a homeless person, you have something to lose if shit goes sideways. If you do and the cops bother you, just tell them you were tired and must have passed out.

So, I haven't been keeping up with the latest on your adventures (or misadventures maybe). Why are you trying to figure out if sleeping at a park is ok?

 

[psd]

I tried it once and I woke up with a really sore ass.

 

[Lukes]

I tried it once and I woke up with a really sore ass.

Must've slept on a rock

 

[oLUXo]

Ok, so this is something I have always been curious about. Someone mentioned this to me, but isn't it inevitable that the cops would approach me and question me while they do their night patrolling for homeless people?

I know that there are a lot of homeless people that sleep in the parks, but since technically not homeless...my "home" is here in Shizuoka and spending money on even cheap hostels/hotels/manga kissa every night adds up!

Are there parks or specific areas in bigger parks where the police might not notice me or not care if they see me sleeping there?

I could always maybe just stay up all night and get some cat naps during the day time if sleeping at parks at night without trouble is impossible. Another option would be to just sleep at McDonald's (required to buy something every hour or so to stay I know).

Has anyone slept overnight at a park in Tokyo or Japan in general and had no issues with police/homeless people/criminals/etc?

Just put some empty beer cans around you and you'll be protected by the beer gods. Leave one unopened in case you get a visitor. The police will not bother you either. You will probably wake up early morning wondering why you did it and where the closest shower is.

If you're looking cheap, stay at an internet cafe. From midnight until like 8am, they have specials for about ¥1000. Some have showers so you can clean up in the morning.

 

[Yuriko]

If it's summer, I bet you get mosquito bits all over and suffer from itch and feel miserable. I spray mosquito avoid sprey, whenever I go out. Lots of sick loosers, homeless can be there. I'd rather go internet cafe to take all night deal, which can be only several thousand yen, and you get comfortable seat, luckily long narrow seat bed, and desk and internet. Better than karaoke all night, as you got to bear with all sorts of noise.

 

[AMcguyver]

I tried it once and I woke up with a really sore ass.

Must've slept on a rock

Or fallen asleep in Ni-chōme.

 

[Sudsy]

Has anyone slept overnight at a park in Tokyo or Japan in general and had no issues with police/homeless people/criminals/etc?

If this was a desirable thing to do, it would be commonplace.

It's not commonly done, so logically, it is not a desirable thing to do.

Keep in mind that the homeless guys that sleep in the parks are usually watching out for each other - you would enjoy no such protection.

Even if you don't get robbed in your sleep, there are plenty of drawbacks.

This time of year, you'll be dealing with dehydration and heatsroke, mosquitoes, and waking up stinking like a locker room.

Then, of course, there's being woken up and taken to the police station while thery run your ID.

 

[Desktop]

I think everyone here is hoping after the advice we gave that you don’t come to Tokyo homeless. I know people who hit bad times that didn’t go homeless. There’s options.

 

[oLUXo]

I think everyone here is hoping after the advice we gave that you don’t come to Tokyo homeless. I know people who hit bad times that didn’t go homeless. There’s options.

Which is why I mentioned the internet cafe. There are some businessmen that live there because it's basically around ¥30,000 a month and you have internet access and showers. There is also free soft drinks and some cheap snacks. While it's not healthy, it was a cheap alternative to an apartment in Tokyo.

 

[TokyoJoeblow]

Which is why I mentioned the internet cafe. There are some businessmen that live there because it's basically around ¥30,000 a month and you have internet access and showers. There is also free soft drinks and some cheap snacks. While it's not healthy, it was a cheap alternative to an apartment in Tokyo.

But wouldn't the staff only offer the long-term stays to Japanese people not foreigners? I realize that I have permanent residence and my Japanese is decent, but won't they worry about a long-term foreigner "bothering" the other customers (even though I'm a really quiet person that doesn't like to bother people)?

I also assume that I wouldn't be able to walk into an internet cafe and ask to pay for a month right away...it would probably have to be a gradual process where I pay day by day for a month or more and then I eventually have the talk with the staff about arranging a more long term monthly payment plan. I'm assuming nobody on this forum has ever lived in an internet cafe for more than a few days at a time yes?

If there exists an internet cafe that wouldn't have a problem with me staying long-term and paying each month, then I'm down for doing that for a few months until I find a job in Tokyo and start saving up money, etc.

P.S. I love internet cafes and all the drinks, soups and snacks haha.

 

[oLUXo]

But wouldn't the staff only offer the long-term stays to Japanese people not foreigners? I realize that I have permanent residence and my Japanese is decent, but won't they worry about a long-term foreigner "bothering" the other customers (even though I'm a really quiet person that doesn't like to bother people)?

I also assume that I wouldn't be able to walk into an internet cafe and ask to pay for a month right away...it would probably have to be a gradual process where I pay day by day for a month or more and then I eventually have the talk with the staff about arranging a more long term monthly payment plan. I'm assuming nobody on this forum has ever lived in an internet cafe for more than a few days at a time yes?

If there exists an internet cafe that wouldn't have a problem with me staying long-term and paying each month, then I'm down for doing that for a few months until I find a job in Tokyo and start saving up money, etc.

P.S. I love internet cafes and all the drinks, soups and snacks haha.

Yes, you'd have to pay every day. Go in around midnight and sleep in until around 8am. It's definitely worth it if you're trying to sleep. Bring an eye mask if you need it to be dark though. It's not bright, but there is a little light so people can move about. Also ear plugs unless you want to keep waking up every time someone goes in and out. Some masturbate in there as there are porn on the computers. I've had sex in them before so I'm sure others have too when all love hotels are taken.

 

[chaztagster]

Does anyone negotiate a monthly arrangement with a manga cafe? I’d always assumed that it was pay by the night and leave with all your stuff when your time is up. Basically one step up from sleeping outdoors.
I doubt that the staff are at all fussy about who stays. I imagine that many of their long term guests are people with mental health issues on the margins of society.
I read an article many years ago about a gaijin who lived in a park in Tokyo with his girlfriend for several months at a low point in his life. I would not recommend it as a choice.
But hey, sleeping at a manga cafe or in a park is something that any of us can try if we want, without obligations. So give it a go and ask yourself if you think you can hack that for a couple of months or longer.

 

[oLUXo]

Does anyone negotiate a monthly arrangement with a manga cafe? I’d always assumed that it was pay by the night and leave with all your stuff when your time is up. Basically one step up from sleeping outdoors.
I doubt that the staff are at all fussy about who stays. I imagine that many of their long term guests are people with mental health issues on the margins of society.
I read an article many years ago about a gaijin who lived in a park in Tokyo with his girlfriend for several months at a low point in his life. I would not recommend it as a choice.
But hey, sleeping at a manga cafe or in a park is something that any of us can try if we want, without obligations. So give it a go and ask yourself if you think you can hack that for a couple of months or longer.

I'm sure you could ask, but it would be a higher fee as you would pay normal rates during the day per hour. For example, after 7 or 8am, the rates just get added on top of your bill until you leave. I'm sure if you never leave, the bill will just keep adding up, but I don't think you can just leave your stuff there while you're not there.

 

[MikeH]

Does anyone negotiate a monthly arrangement with a manga cafe? I’d always assumed that it was pay by the night and leave with all your stuff when your time is up.

Yeah, that's how it's done. They wouldn't care if you are alien or true blood Yamato, the only thing they care is you pay up every day.

 

[Ken1988]

You can find a job easily in Tokyo. You have all the proper papers that many others are just yearning for.

The risk of sleeping in a park can be high. You are likely to be approached by the police. They are eager to question you and check your immigration status. Once you are found a PR holder, they would report you to the immigration. Sleeping rough implies you are not “making an independent living” because they almost automatically assume you are in such a state that you are eligible to receive the government’s income support. It motivates the immigration to investigate what went wrong with you.

For one night refuge, the cheapest and safe place to sleep would be Haneda airport’s international terminal, but you could only save a few hundred yen compared to a net cafe.

 

[TokyoJoeblow]

I'm sure you could ask, but it would be a higher fee as you would pay normal rates during the day per hour. For example, after 7 or 8am, the rates just get added on top of your bill until you leave. I'm sure if you never leave, the bill will just keep adding up, but I don't think you can just leave your stuff there while you're not there.

Then how do the people living at these internet cafes long-term possibly live there if they can't even go outside while leaving their stuff in their room?

I guess the answer would be that they are hikikomori that literally never leave the place...

 

[TokyoJoeblow]

You can find a job easily in Tokyo. You have all the proper papers that many others are just yearning for.

The risk of sleeping in a park can be high. You are likely to be approached by the police. They are eager to question you and check your immigration status. Once you are found a PR holder, they would report you to the immigration. Sleeping rough implies you are not “making an independent living” because they almost automatically assume you are in such a state that you are eligible to receive the government’s income support. It motivates the immigration to investigate what went wrong with you.

For one night refuge, the cheapest and safe place to sleep would be Haneda airport’s international terminal, but you could only save a few hundred yen compared to a net cafe.

Yes, I thought about this same situation too. I'm ditching the sleeping in the park idea completely and sticking to internet cafes/McDonald's sometimes.

I don't even want to do this, but if I need to relocate to Tokyo, I will try this until I have enough savings to rent out a studio apartment or do a roomshare.

I have some job interviews with English schools in the Shizuoka area coming up and I will see how things go before I make any big relocation decisions.

 

[Desktop]

There are shared houses with your own room from 50,000 to 60,000 yen a month man just look. You’d make more than that in Tokyo.

 

[TokyoJoeblow]

There are shared houses with your own room from 50,000 to 60,000 yen a month man just look. You’d make more than that in Tokyo.

Oh I have found a lot of them online. I would only move into a place like that once I have a full time job in Tokyo and was paid for a couple months.

 

[scorpioni6ths]

Does anyone negotiate a monthly arrangement with a manga cafe?

that might break some J housing/leasing law/s.


the longest deals i've seen being advertised is a 1 week pack ... around 15,000yen. Kamata and Kawasaki shotengai has cafes advertising around that price. they not the large chain cafes.



i always go past this one in Kamata. note, i have not stayed in the cafe. so i don't know if there are serial killers inside, or doctors ready to harvest your organs.

 

[TokyoJoeblow]

that might break some J housing/leasing law/s.


the longest deals i've seen being advertised is a 1 week pack ... around 15,000yen. Kamata and Kawasaki shotengai has cafes advertising around that price. they not the large chain cafes.

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i always go past this one in Kamata. note, i have not stayed in the cafe. so i don't know if there are serial killers inside, or doctors ready to harvest your organs.

15,000yen for one week is pretty expensive x4 and that is way above the 30,000yen a month that oLUXo mentioned about. I know that each internet cafe has different prices and deals.

@oLUXo Do you happen to know which internet cafes only charge 30,000yen a month? I assume that these long-term residents pay day by day or weekly and not monthly.

It is funny because there is a documentary about Japanese people living in internet cafes and I don't remember them even asking if these places allow you to pay monthly...if I made a documentary about this topic, I would have asked more questions to get answers that would help people attain the knowledge to help them find a situation like this. The documentary goes out of its way to make this living situation miserable and to be avoided at all costs...which I don't blame them for doing, but at the same time, it doesn't help people that actually need to live in a place like that haha.

I'm doing online work with my brother (I won't say what) but there is a good chance my monthly salary will increase within a few months, which would help me out a lot.

 

[MikeH]

The title should be changed to "Sad to sleep in the parks in Tokyo?" and then the answer would be easy.

If you are going to online then there is no reason to move to Tokyo, especially if you cannot afford it.

 

[joeking]

http://disposableworkers.com/?page_id=37

If you stay there you'll have plenty of company apparently
https://soranews24.com/2018/01/31/s...internet-cafe-customers-in-tokyo-is-homeless/

 

[Frenchy]

In the spirit of peace and reconciliation and since we welcome his beloved President currently, I hereby commit to shelter TJB for 2 nights in my modest bachelor pad.
This offer will expire as soon as I get sober
Yours very truely,
SoyBoy