Sexually Transmitted Disease (std) Talk

[User#8628]

Something i wanna mention about diseases. There is a lot of talk about herpes, but i have never seen genital herpes on a guy, and i have had quite some close up (bj) experience.
Oral herpes seems far more common, though less in Japan than Europe because face kissing happens a lot less here, i think.
Adults with a healthy physical condition should rarely get outbreaks anyway even if they have the virus.

I honestly expected genital herpes to be more of a thing from all the jokes in sleasy sitcoms and stuff like that.

 

[dreams]

I'm also curious about hepatitis B injections. Does anyone know if you get really sick afterwards?
Its not a common disease but any extra form of protection would be positive of course!

It's a matter of statistics, but generally, no, no side effects following the vaccination. (Disclaimer: Any medical actiion can lead to side effects, including....death...)
This beingsaid, I would definitively take it.I personally have. It's not that common, but not that rare either, and one of the main contamination route, besides IV injections through contaminated syringes, is sexual. As always, take your doctor's advice, he knows you better than me....

 

[Torky]

Hep b vaccinations are like 3 shots I think. You'll need to do 1 on that day, the second 3 months later, then the last booster shot on the 5th month to ensure establishment of immunity.

 

[Hofmeyer]

Not really an STD, but lets talk about athlete's foot.

Did you know you can get it on your dick? Not in the groin area when you call it crotch rot, where the hip joint is, but on the head of your penis.

Be careful of washing your dick with strong soap and those tingly anti-septic solutions some girls make you wash with. Especially if you're uncut.

Because right now I'm putting some fucking lamisil knock off on my bell-end twice a day and I'm out of the game for at least three weeks if not more.

Also, also...! Petroleum jelly based creams melt and can make it look like you pissed yourself.

 

[happyman]

hi all,

Just a question to clarify on how reliable is it that the escort providers here adhere to the monthly STD checkup? An example would be this.

 

[MikeH]

Just a question to clarify on how reliable is it that the escort providers here adhere to the monthly STD checkup? An example would be this.

I think that was now the third time you ask the same question. If you are worried about getting something in a shop then the best way of action is not to visit them.

 

[John japan]

^ You couldn't of said it any better. Of course every shop will tell you they do check ups, but you will never know for sure. The best advice is either 1. Don't go at all like MikeH said. 2 always use a condom even on Bjs.

 

[User#8628]

It's a sensible thing for girls to do a check up. I don't know if the shop demands it but if they are smart they do it regulary anyway.

 

[Partylyk1999]

^ You couldn't of said it any better. Of course every shop will tell you they do check ups, but you will never know for sure. The best advice is either 1. Don't go at all like MikeH said. 2 always use a condom even on Bjs.

STD checks that are free are very open to the public. Doubt working girls are going that route. Private checks can cost 50,000 or more yen per month. I saw one place offering to do it for 15,000 yen. From looking at documentaries or case studies, it would seem that getting checked is not a priority in Japan due low infection rates. On the other hand, Japanese males catch a lot of stuff. Thus the sex workers are put at risk especially in the 18 to 25 range. We can be sure that the transmissions will happen at some point because most STDs go undetected. Women can carry STDs in their mouths. Men can carry HPV and never know it because they never had a symptom. Older people are catching STDs because in their younger days condoms were not needed. Some older women because they can't have children due to organ removal, forego condones too. Which in turn increases their chances of getting something. Many do statistically. Other have risky sex and also increase other people's chances. So one could surmise that testing in Japan is not high. So keep it covered for all things and use dams on the ladies.

 

[User#8628]

STD checks that are free are very open to the public. Doubt working girls are going that route. Private checks can cost 50,000 or more yen per month. I saw one place offering to do it for 15,000 yen. From looking at documentaries or case studies, it would seem that getting checked is not a priority in Japan due low infection rates. On the other hand, Japanese males catch a lot of stuff. Thus the sex workers are put at risk especially in the 18 to 25 range. We can be sure that the transmissions will happen at some point because most STDs go undetected. Women can carry STDs in their mouths. Men can carry HPV and never know it because they never had a symptom. Older people are catching STDs because in their younger days condoms were not needed. Some older women because they can't have children due to organ removal, forego condones too. Which in turn increases their chances of getting something. Many do statistically. Other have risky sex and also increase other people's chances. So one could surmise that testing in Japan is not high. So keep it covered for all things and use dams on the ladies.

Testing is not that expensive. A very inclusive bloodtest costs about 15.000 yen and a swab that covers the most common std (but not things like hiv) costs about 6000.
I try to get some swabs every month and blood tests every 3 months (because who likes needles and hiv doesn't show up the first few months after you got it anyway, plus every disease discovered within a year is still early stage i guess). Unless a woman does this job because she is really hard pressed for money and needs every dime (like someone with a dept) its sensible to get tested. Its not that much money to what providers earn and your health is not something you cheap out on!
Of course most japanese people have a bit poor sex education and are not so sensible about this kind of topics (probably why also a lot of girls never use condoms at all) but it doesn't make sense to me.
Anyway, even if someone tests regulary its not impossible to get a disease from them of course.

 

[Partylyk1999]

Yeah I know the cost varies, but then there is the privacy issues. Some people are just too prideful or private to get tested.

 

[chacha23]

FYI for those people out of the major cities or looking for something a bit more discreet - this service offers home testing kits, which I have found useful
http://japanhealthinfo.com/faq/test/

 

[Jbagz]

hi all,

Just a question to clarify on how reliable is it that the escort providers here adhere to the monthly STD checkup? An example would be this.

If you want to educate yourself about STDs, you'd be better off reading about them from a respected medical website rather than asking about it on websites full of p4p enthusiasts.

To get a feel for how frequent a P4P provider would have to be tested, read about the gestation period for each STD.

This is the amount of time that must pass between a person getting a particular STD, to the time they can pass it on to someone else.

It won't be the same for each STD, so you've got some reading to do.

No offense, but I view your question as rather silly, or at least not articulated very well.

A sex worker who tests regularly is primarily doing it for their benefit, not yours. Yes, it might prevent them from spreading the STD to more people than they would otherwise, but if you are looking for a failsafe, forget about it.

There is a risk associated with nearly every thing a person does in life.

Only you will be able to determine, what is an acceptable risk.

None of us can do that for you.

Again, go educate yourself from literature produced by a medical organization and then evaluate the risks on your own.

Don't ask for that kind of information here because it will probably be biased.

 

[Jbagz]

Not really an STD, but lets talk about athlete's foot.

Did you know you can get it on your dick? Not in the groin area when you call it crotch rot, where the hip joint is, but on the head of your penis.

Be careful of washing your dick with strong soap and those tingly anti-septic solutions some girls make you wash with. Especially if you're uncut.

Because right now I'm putting some fucking lamisil knock off on my bell-end twice a day and I'm out of the game for at least three weeks if not more.

Also, also...! Petroleum jelly based creams melt and can make it look like you pissed yourself.

Now this is freaking me out!

WTF?

A doctor told you that you have athlete's foot on your dick, or was this a self diagnosis?

 

[Hofmeyer]

A doctor told me obviously. It's a fungus that likes warm, moist skin. You can get it almost anywhere including but not limited to; asscrack, behind the knees, armpits, bellybutton... and in some peoples cases like me, the glans of the penis. The absolute most common place is the foot though.

 

[iamyuu]

Following on from my post regarding a potential exposure from BBFS (https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/thai-mild-with-mona-chan.13548/#post-94308), I am happy to inform that I finally got tested and the results came out negative.
A valuable learning experience, going through the motions, anxiety, the research, and the tests themselves. I paid a price for it (two prices actually, as I took tests at two different clinics), but at least, I didn't pay the price in terms of catching anything.

I echo the advice by some posters to read up on respectable medical websites regarding STD testing, but hope the details below of my experience can give you some hints to start (a bit like what Wikipedia does for homework!)
- 3 days after the potential exposure, I went to a skin clinic for a non-STD related ailment. At the same time, I asked the doctor if I should test for STDs since the clinic offered the service. The truth is a lot of Japanese clinics offer STD testing, though at different price points and not all may offer rapid testing. The doctor said since I wasn't showing any symptoms (itchiness, painful urinating, lesions, etc.) and due to the window period for different STDs, he said for me to test in 3 weeks time from potential exposure, earlier if I start showing any symptoms.
- As I was busy with a few overseas business trips, abstaining from sex for 3 weeks wasn't too bad (plus there's always the hand!).
- As 3 weeks point approached, I read not only about window periods for different STDs, but also window periods for different HIV tests. I learned that there is a quick viral load HIV test that can be taken 1 week after the potential exposure. The accuracy rate is lower than other tests, such as the 4th generation Ag/Ab test that can be taken 4 weeks after (which is 95% accurate). The 3rd generation test which is usually a confirmatory test can be taken at 3 months after.
- Since I wasn't showing any symptoms at 3 weeks, I decided to wait till 4 weeks, and finally tested at two different clinics. One clinic may have been enough but I was a bit curious to try a clinic that can gave me a results on the spot and another 3 days later (sending the samples to an external lab).
- At Clinic A, I got a panel of tests for HIV, syphilis, chlamydia and gonorrhea, with the results coming 3 days later via email. Cost - 12960yen. I asked the doctor if I should take a mycoplasma test as well, but he said that usually people test for mycoplasma if they are showing symptoms, which I'm not. They took my blood and urine. The doctor emailed me 2 working days later, informing me that all results were negative.
- At Clinic B, I got a panel of tests for HIV, syphilis, Hep B and Hep C, with the results given in 15 minutes. Cost - 21600yen. After a 15 min wait, the doctor showed me the results, explaining the one line for each means negative (two lines would be positive, no lines would mean faulty test). Yey, all results were negative.
- A confirmatory HIV test in 2 more months time, and I should be 100% sure.

The 1 month of abstaining has somewhat helped calm down my seemingly growing addiction to P4P (started only in Nov, but have had probably >20 sessions). With knowledge and experience comes more self-control, I guess. Gonna be a bit more selective now. Of course, CFS

 

[stringen]

Following on from my post regarding a potential exposure from BBFS (https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/thai-mild-with-mona-chan.13548/#post-94308), I am happy to inform that I finally got tested and the results came out negative.
A valuable learning experience, going through the motions, anxiety, the research, and the tests themselves. I paid a price for it (two prices actually, as I took tests at two different clinics), but at least, I didn't pay the price in terms of catching anything.

I echo the advice by some posters to read up on respectable medical websites regarding STD testing, but hope the details below of my experience can give you some hints to start (a bit like what Wikipedia does for homework!)
- 3 days after the potential exposure, I went to a skin clinic for a non-STD related ailment. At the same time, I asked the doctor if I should test for STDs since the clinic offered the service. The truth is a lot of Japanese clinics offer STD testing, though at different price points and not all may offer rapid testing. The doctor said since I wasn't showing any symptoms (itchiness, painful urinating, lesions, etc.) and due to the window period for different STDs, he said for me to test in 3 weeks time from potential exposure, earlier if I start showing any symptoms.
- As I was busy with a few overseas business trips, abstaining from sex for 3 weeks wasn't too bad (plus there's always the hand!).
- As 3 weeks point approached, I read not only about window periods for different STDs, but also window periods for different HIV tests. I learned that there is a quick viral load HIV test that can be taken 1 week after the potential exposure. The accuracy rate is lower than other tests, such as the 4th generation Ag/Ab test that can be taken 4 weeks after (which is 95% accurate). The 3rd generation test which is usually a confirmatory test can be taken at 3 months after.
- Since I wasn't showing any symptoms at 3 weeks, I decided to wait till 4 weeks, and finally tested at two different clinics. One clinic may have been enough but I was a bit curious to try a clinic that can gave me a results on the spot and another 3 days later (sending the samples to an external lab).
- At Clinic A, I got a panel of tests for HIV, syphilis, chlamydia and gonorrhea, with the results coming 3 days later via email. Cost - 12960yen. I asked the doctor if I should take a mycoplasma test as well, but he said that usually people test for mycoplasma if they are showing symptoms, which I'm not. They took my blood and urine. The doctor emailed me 2 working days later, informing me that all results were negative.
- At Clinic B, I got a panel of tests for HIV, syphilis, Hep B and Hep C, with the results given in 15 minutes. Cost - 21600yen. After a 15 min wait, the doctor showed me the results, explaining the one line for each means negative (two lines would be positive, no lines would mean faulty test). Yey, all results were negative.
- A confirmatory HIV test in 2 more months time, and I should be 100% sure.

The 1 month of abstaining has somewhat helped calm down my seemingly growing addiction to P4P (started only in Nov, but have had probably >20 sessions). With knowledge and experience comes more self-control, I guess. Gonna be a bit more selective now. Of course, CFS

Good to hear stay safe

 

[User#8628]

Following on from my post regarding a potential exposure from BBFS (https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/thai-mild-with-mona-chan.13548/#post-94308), I am happy to inform that I finally got tested and the results came out negative.
A valuable learning experience, going through the motions, anxiety, the research, and the tests themselves. I paid a price for it (two prices actually, as I took tests at two different clinics), but at least, I didn't pay the price in terms of catching anything.

I echo the advice by some posters to read up on respectable medical websites regarding STD testing, but hope the details below of my experience can give you some hints to start (a bit like what Wikipedia does for homework!)
- 3 days after the potential exposure, I went to a skin clinic for a non-STD related ailment. At the same time, I asked the doctor if I should test for STDs since the clinic offered the service. The truth is a lot of Japanese clinics offer STD testing, though at different price points and not all may offer rapid testing. The doctor said since I wasn't showing any symptoms (itchiness, painful urinating, lesions, etc.) and due to the window period for different STDs, he said for me to test in 3 weeks time from potential exposure, earlier if I start showing any symptoms.
- As I was busy with a few overseas business trips, abstaining from sex for 3 weeks wasn't too bad (plus there's always the hand!).
- As 3 weeks point approached, I read not only about window periods for different STDs, but also window periods for different HIV tests. I learned that there is a quick viral load HIV test that can be taken 1 week after the potential exposure. The accuracy rate is lower than other tests, such as the 4th generation Ag/Ab test that can be taken 4 weeks after (which is 95% accurate). The 3rd generation test which is usually a confirmatory test can be taken at 3 months after.
- Since I wasn't showing any symptoms at 3 weeks, I decided to wait till 4 weeks, and finally tested at two different clinics. One clinic may have been enough but I was a bit curious to try a clinic that can gave me a results on the spot and another 3 days later (sending the samples to an external lab).
- At Clinic A, I got a panel of tests for HIV, syphilis, chlamydia and gonorrhea, with the results coming 3 days later via email. Cost - 12960yen. I asked the doctor if I should take a mycoplasma test as well, but he said that usually people test for mycoplasma if they are showing symptoms, which I'm not. They took my blood and urine. The doctor emailed me 2 working days later, informing me that all results were negative.
- At Clinic B, I got a panel of tests for HIV, syphilis, Hep B and Hep C, with the results given in 15 minutes. Cost - 21600yen. After a 15 min wait, the doctor showed me the results, explaining the one line for each means negative (two lines would be positive, no lines would mean faulty test). Yey, all results were negative.
- A confirmatory HIV test in 2 more months time, and I should be 100% sure.

The 1 month of abstaining has somewhat helped calm down my seemingly growing addiction to P4P (started only in Nov, but have had probably >20 sessions). With knowledge and experience comes more self-control, I guess. Gonna be a bit more selective now. Of course, CFS

Super informative, thank you!
Good to hear you didn't catch anything. Stay safe!

 

[Manny]

That's awesome. Thanks for the info and also glad to hear you're not one the people that are catching syphilis in Japan that is growing at an alarming rate according to the news.

 

[black panda]

Ok guys I've been gone for awhile but I wanted to know if this is the place to alert members of a provider who has herpes( no one from this site has it), stay away from Miho at the soapland mermaid. It didn't ruin my life but I did get herpes from her. Even though it was CFS we did do BBBJ. I just want everyone to be safe.

 

[designer08]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this question, but out of curiosity, people who do "BBBJs," have any of you heard/experienced contracting any STIs in Japan? (Aside from Black Panda - thank you for the heads up. That's seriously much appreciated)

I understand that this might be a touchy subject/foolish question.

 

[black panda]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this question, but out of curiosity, people who do "BBBJs," have any of you heard/experienced contracting any STIs in Japan? (Aside from Black Panda - thank you for the heads up. That's seriously much appreciated)

I understand that this might be a touchy subject/foolish question.

There's always going to be risk but for the most part it's mostly safe in Japan but you do get some places with questionable practices. The thing is I don't even think she knows that she has herpes. Most carriers don't know if they have it or not

 

[designer08]

There's always going to be risk but for the most part it's mostly safe in Japan but you do get some places with questionable practices. The thing is I don't even think she knows that she has herpes. Most carriers don't know if they have it or not

Thank you so much for taking out the time to answer my question! I appreciate it, much obliged.

 

[TAG Manager]

There's always going to be risk but for the most part it's mostly safe in Japan but you do get some places with questionable practices. The thing is I don't even think she knows that she has herpes. Most carriers don't know if they have it or not

Millions of people are carriers and most don't even know they have it. Some may not even ever experience and outbreak...
It's a tough one to figure out...

 

[patty diaz]

That's awesome. Thanks for the info and also glad to hear you're not one the people that are catching syphilis in Japan that is growing at an alarming rate according to the news.

I dont really like to go into details but I can attest to this I caught it two years ago and the treatment process was a very long expensive experience with lots of needle jabs involved